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11-30-2012, 03:43 PM
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I ask because you had Blue=Bohumil down pat, are you a google translate God or familiar with the languages?
(and by God I mean manually searching for one word which I'm incapable of)
I try to pick up little things (mostly hockey related) in many "hockey languages" (Russian, Swedish, Finnish, etc.) so I can better understand things that are being said about a player. But my fundamental understanding of these languages is largely non-existant, to be honest, but rather accumulated from trying to piece together other hockey related things. In short, more in the direction of intermediate Google Translate user, with a small understanding of how things translate to solve compound word issues (like our mystery word above) or context issues...

As MadArcand accurately notes, I am Hungarian. But still, I claim general ignorance on all languages.

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11-30-2012, 04:03 PM
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Make-up picks:
1: Red Berenson, coach
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1. Red Berenson, coach
2. Ilya Bryzgalov, G
3. Joe Pavelski, C
4. Vladislav Tretiak, goaltending coach

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11-30-2012, 04:04 PM
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Blue = Modry, Bohumil would be something like God-loved

And if Mike's screenname is his actual name, I wouldn't be surprised if he's somewhat familiar with it (though yes, Farkas is actually a Hungarian name, but it's not rare to see it in Slovakia).
This is why Liba got shifted to my AA list, I can't even properly translate one word I already know

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I try to pick up little things (mostly hockey related) in many "hockey languages" (Russian, Swedish, Finnish, etc.) so I can better understand things that are being said about a player. But my fundamental understanding of these languages is largely non-existant, to be honest, but rather accumulated from trying to piece together other hockey related things. In short, more in the direction of intermediate Google Translate user, with a small understanding of how things translate to solve compound word issues (like our mystery word above) or context issues...

As MadArcand accurately notes, I am Hungarian. But still, I claim general ignorance on all languages.
Very interesting, definitely a useful skill around these parts.

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12-01-2012, 05:02 PM
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I'll try to get a moment tonight to get on a computer and update this draft list as well as pm everyone who has been skipped or is up.

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12-02-2012, 03:14 AM
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I'll try to get a moment tonight to get on a computer and update this draft list as well as pm everyone who has been skipped or is up.
Don't bother trying to figure out who's up. As of yesterday afternoon, every remaining pick has been skipped. Feel free to send PMs to everybody to let them know they can finish their rosters.

As for us, we'll use our final skipped pick to select D/W Bert McCaffrey. He was a 2 x Allen Cup winner, an Olympic Gold medalist, and a Stanley Cup champion.



283 seventieslord & Dreakmur - Regina Pat Canadians – Picked at 8:16 on the 29th
284 Hedberg - Fort Saskatchewan Traders – 12:16 on the 30th
285 jkrx & Hobnobs - Sheffield Steelers - 4:16
286 tarheelhockey - Macon Whoopee – 8:16
287 BudsBuster - Birmingham Barracudas – 12:16
288 Mike Farkas - Buffalo Mugwumps – 4:16

289 Mike Farkas - Buffalo Mugwumps - auto
290 BudsBuster - Birmingham Barracudas - auto
291 tarheelhockey - Macon Whoopee - auto
292 jkrx & Hobnobs - Sheffield Steelers - auto
293 Hedberg - Fort Saskatchewan Traders - auto
294 seventieslord & Dreakmur - Regina Pat Canadians – 8:16
295 tony d - St. John's Monsters – 12:16 on the 1st
296 Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Professionals – 4:16
297 chaosrevolver - Belleville Bulls – 8:16
298 Velociraptor - Utah Grizzlies – 12:16
299 Johnny Engine - St. John's Ice Caps – 4:16
300 BillyShoe1721 - EHC Eisbären Berlin -8:16 PM

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12-02-2012, 06:44 AM
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Sheffield steelers round out this draft with,

Shaun Van Allen, C/W



and

Brent Burns, D


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12-02-2012, 11:56 AM
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The Macon Whoopee select

Joe Corvo, D



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Sean Avery, LW


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12-02-2012, 01:35 PM
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the baraccudas select LW Sergi Samsonov

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12-02-2012, 04:28 PM
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The Monsters finish their team by picking Left Winger Vic Lynn


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12-02-2012, 06:10 PM
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12-02-2012, 08:26 PM
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Rick Lapointe, D

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12-03-2012, 03:32 AM
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Don't bother trying to figure out who's up. As of yesterday afternoon, every remaining pick has been skipped. Feel free to send PMs to everybody to let them know they can finish their rosters.

As for us, we'll use our final skipped pick to select D/W Bert McCaffrey. He was a 2 x Allen Cup winner, an Olympic Gold medalist, and a Stanley Cup champion.



283 seventieslord & Dreakmur - Regina Pat Canadians – Picked at 8:16 on the 29th
284 Hedberg - Fort Saskatchewan Traders – 12:16 on the 30th
285 jkrx & Hobnobs - Sheffield Steelers - 4:16
286 tarheelhockey - Macon Whoopee – 8:16
287 BudsBuster - Birmingham Barracudas – 12:16
288 Mike Farkas - Buffalo Mugwumps – 4:16

289 Mike Farkas - Buffalo Mugwumps - auto
290 BudsBuster - Birmingham Barracudas - auto
291 tarheelhockey - Macon Whoopee - auto
292 jkrx & Hobnobs - Sheffield Steelers - auto
293 Hedberg - Fort Saskatchewan Traders - auto
294 seventieslord & Dreakmur - Regina Pat Canadians – 8:16
295 tony d - St. John's Monsters – 12:16 on the 1st
296 Bring Back Scuderi - Pittsburgh Professionals – 4:16
297 chaosrevolver - Belleville Bulls – 8:16
298 Velociraptor - Utah Grizzlies – 12:16
299 Johnny Engine - St. John's Ice Caps – 4:16
300 BillyShoe1721 - EHC Eisbären Berlin -8:16 PM
thanks for sorting that out. without doing the math, I was pretty sure it was going to get to this point by the end of my vacation. I have messaged the six GMs who have a combined 10 missed picks.

as for McCaffrey - like Harry Watson, he outscored Hooley Smith at the 1924 Olympics from the right wing. He also finished 13th in 1925 Hart voting as a winger. and he won two cups, not just one - he just didn't play in the 1931 playoffs.

I love McCaffrey here because he's the only player in the draft (correct me if I'm wrong) who was legitimately good as a forward and a defenseman, making him not just a passable fill-in, but a great one:

As a forward:
- put up 94 points in 77 games in the OHA and earned two first team all-star spots (Harry Watson had 131 in 72)
- scored buckets of points at the 1924 olympics with his linemates Smith and Watson
- placed 19th and 13th in the NHL in points (percentage scores 38 & 58)
- was 13th in hart voting in 1926

As a defenseman:
- was an OHA 2nd team all-star in 1921
- played 5 NHL seasons from age 33-37
- earned defense percentage scores of 65 and 53% in his best two seasons
- in the 1928 and 1930 seasons, he was traded to and from Pittsburgh. they had a record of 31-49-15 (.405) with him, and 2-31-4 (.108) before acquiring him and after losing him.
- contributed to 2 Montreal stanley cups (1930, 1931)
- was the oldest full time player in the NHL when he retired

the "going rate" for a good pre-expansion defenseman right now seems to be in the 8-year range for NHL careers. In McCaffrey's case, he lasted 7 in the NHL, all in his 30s, though not all as a defenseman. But five years before joining the NHL he was an all-star defenseman in the OHA so it's quite likely he was an NHL caliber player, whether at forward or defense, or both, for a period that dates back to before there was even an NHL.

interesting stat: in his first 6 NHL seasons (1925-1930), he missed just 4 games, and led the NHL in games throughout this time. This demonstrates durability, but more importantly, that even as he aged, he was a contributing player who wasn't being shuffled in and out of the lineup.

Here's last year's mini-bio: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=526

I do wish I knew more about how he played, though. Aside from a 1927 quote about him being one of the game's best skaters, I have nothing on him.

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12-03-2012, 06:22 AM
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With my last pick I'll take Terry Carkner.

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12-03-2012, 04:41 PM
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With my last two picks:

I'll take C Earl Ingarfield and D Joe Cirella

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12-03-2012, 11:07 PM
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Eisbaren completes their roster with C Travis Green

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12-05-2012, 10:04 AM
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With my last pick the Barraccudas select F/D Dustin Bufuglien.

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12-05-2012, 04:35 PM
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How many people are there that need to make up picks? Seems like we should be starting the playoffs with this soon.

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12-05-2012, 06:29 PM
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How many people are there that need to make up picks? Seems like we should be starting the playoffs with this soon.
I think everyone has picked except chaos and hedberg

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12-05-2012, 06:33 PM
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With my last pick the Barraccudas select F/D Dustin Bufuglien.
Might be controversial, but at this point, I think he's had enough good in his career where it would be a shame if he fell past the AAA.

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12-06-2012, 04:14 PM
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I think everyone has picked except chaos and hedberg
Sorry for disappearing for the last week. I'll finish off with D Ron Plumb and F Oliver Seibert

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12-07-2012, 11:01 PM
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Coach - Todd McLellan
RW - Jonathan Cheechoo
LW - Martin Erat

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12-14-2012, 06:43 PM
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It’s time to vote on the 2012 AAA draft.

Please send to TheDevilMadeMe, the following:

- Your rankings of the six teams in each division
- Rank your own team 1st in your division. This is your reward for voting, or rather, a penalty to those who don’t vote.

Co-GMs can vote twice and their votes will both count but the team will not receive the benefit of two 1st place votes. You must also submit your all-star votes in order to get your first place vote counted

Please send to me, the following:

- Your ranking of the ten best top-6 centers (who are currently listed in the roster thread on a team’s 1st or 2nd line)
- Ten best top-6 wingers
- Ten best bottom-6 centers
- Ten best bottom-6 wingers
- Ten best defensemen
- Five best goalies
- Five best coaches
- Five best spares
- Five players who you think had no business being picked at all

- All lists should be in order.

- Co-GMs are encouraged to vote as well, so that there are more widely varied votes to count. Unlike the standings voting, your vote will count at full value.

- Do not list any of your own players.

- Consider roles in your votes. You can vote as you please, but I personally wouldn’t just pick the best offensive players for bottom-6 roles.

- I will compile these votes and get back to you with an all-star roster, or hopefully two all-star rosters, if enough players get votes. I will be adjusting the vote totals using a formula to account for co-GMs voting (because it puts them at a disadvantage casting double the votes without being able to name their own players) and for teams that don’t submit ballots (for the opposite reason)

- Take it seriously! This process is important. This is how we know who the most deserving players are to move up into MLD roles (and maybe beyond?) next year.

- Hopefully I see 14 ballots.

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12-17-2012, 05:06 AM
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I have votes from 4 GMs - BillyShoe1721, Hedberg, Dreakmur, jkrx

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12-17-2012, 10:44 AM
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I have votes from 4 GMs - BillyShoe1721, Hedberg, Dreakmur, jkrx
Might be possible that this draft is dead. Seems people have been busy.

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12-17-2012, 12:09 PM
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BBS has voted. I am about to vote. I will harrass BudsBuster until he votes, too. that will give us at least 7. Even that is surprisingly low, though.

Later today, after 2-3 more inevitably come in, I'll PM those who haven't voted.

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