HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > World Junior Championship
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
World Junior Championship Discuss international tournaments such as the World Juniors, Olympic hockey, and Ice Hockey World Championships, as they take place; or discuss past tournaments.

Roster Talk '13 — Russia

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
12-05-2012, 10:36 AM
  #26
Yakushev72
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,538
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Macman View Post
Three months in Canada and ruined.
Vorky's comment was valid. The CHL is not a developmental league - for many, it is one step below the NHL. Russian kids haven't played organized hockey that long, so they need more time to develop their entire skills package. The CHL is about playing a lot of games and competing for league championships. For many Russians, going to Canada is the wrong choice. The ones who succeed in NA are by and large already a developed product.

Yakushev72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 10:39 AM
  #27
Yakushev72
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,538
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by russianhockeyDOTde View Post
Added:
Ilya Lyubushkin
Vadim Khlopotov

Precipitated:
Mikhail Naumenkov

source: http://fhr.ru/content/news/11868.html
What does "Precipitated" mean in regard to a hockey roster?

Yakushev72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 10:40 AM
  #28
IHaveNoCreativity
HFB Partner
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Somewhere in Quebec.
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,273
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by vorky View Post
I would say he is ruined by CHL, so Varnakov did not consider him.
Actually he's doing very well in Baie-Comeau..

IHaveNoCreativity is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 10:50 AM
  #29
russianhockey
Registered User
 
russianhockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Country: Germany
Posts: 1,161
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yakushev72 View Post
What does "Precipitated" mean in regard to a hockey roster?
he is out...

russianhockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 11:22 AM
  #30
vorky
@vorkywh24
 
vorky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 7,075
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yakushev72 View Post
They are nearly the same age, but were born more than 1,000 kilometers apart. I keep hearing the TV announcers referring to them as brothers, but Vasilevskiy is a very common name in Russia. I see no evidence that they are brothers.
they are brothers, playing for Tolpar Ufa (Aleksei also VHL, Andrei KHL), Aleksei is D, born 1993, Andrei is G, born 1994. Their father, Aleksei, is goalie coach of Tolpar.

Quote:
Защитник уфимского Толпара и объединенной сборной МХЛ Red Stars Алексей Василевский поделился своими планами на поездку в составе команды на Азиатский Кубок Вызова, а также опроверг слухи о возможном отъезде за океан.

Помню, что брат (Андрей Василевский, голкипер молодежной сборной России прим. оф. сайта МХЛ)
http://mhl.khl.ru/news/index.php?ELE...35&SECTION_ID=

vorky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 12:07 PM
  #31
IHaveNoCreativity
HFB Partner
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Somewhere in Quebec.
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,273
vCash: 500
How is Andrei playing this year ? Can he top last year's performance ?

IHaveNoCreativity is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 12:42 PM
  #32
vorky
@vorkywh24
 
vorky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 7,075
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity View Post
How is Andrei playing this year ? Can he top last year's performance ?
Dont know about MHL, but he has KHL debut, 2 games (4 and 7 min per game). He was back up tonight

vorky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 02:31 PM
  #33
Atas2000
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 3,824
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity View Post
How is Andrei playing this year ? Can he top last year's performance ?
He is playing well with Tolpar. The most progress wiill come now with competition and game action and with age. He's very talented, but he needs to mature to compete at senior level. I have a feeling he has let success get to him a little to much talking about leaving for NA and not getting a chance in Ufa. Another WJC will be a useful experience once again. And he would get his chances in Ufa. The senior team isn't exactly loaded with superstars in net.

On a side note. Andrei Makarov is the best of the 3 camp call ups. He's extremely solid mentally. Something Vasilevsky should develop with age actually. Makarov's only handicap will be that he's playing on small rinks for some time now and would have to adapt back to european rinks. And nobody is talking about Ustinsky, but he is at the very least very close to the top 2 guys.

Atas2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 02:35 PM
  #34
Atas2000
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 3,824
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yakushev72 View Post
They are nearly the same age, but were born more than 1,000 kilometers apart. I keep hearing the TV announcers referring to them as brothers, but Vasilevskiy is a very common name in Russia. I see no evidence that they are brothers.
Alexei is Andrei's elder brother.

Atas2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 02:40 PM
  #35
Atas2000
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 3,824
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrimper View Post
Glad that Zlobin was picked. Anyone tell me how he's been doing this season?

Seen him play once and that was in the Memorial cup final last year for Shawinigan.
A lot of ppl consider him the lesser part of the Grigorenko-Zlobin connection on that roster. I think it's not accurate. Zlobin will be an integral part of one of the top 2 scoring lines. He was good in tha SSS games. And what I like about him is his team first attitude.

Atas2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 02:42 PM
  #36
Atas2000
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 3,824
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Destroyer100 View Post
Zadorov is a beast. I have been watching him on London and he has been great, hes physical d-man but he can also dish the puck too.
With the loss of Naumenkov we will need Zadorov at his A-level.

Atas2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 03:00 PM
  #37
Yakushev72
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,538
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atas2000 View Post
With the loss of Naumenkov we will need Zadorov at his A-level.
Does this mean that Naumenkov is injured and unavailable, or just not invited?

Yakushev72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 03:35 PM
  #38
Zine
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 8,979
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity View Post
A little surprised that Zykov wasn't invited..
As with any team, only the very elite 1995s have a realistic chance. For Russia its Nichushkin and Zadorov (would've like to have seen a healthy Buchnevich there).

Guys like Tolchinsky, Zykov, Barbashev will get their chance next year.

Zine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 03:38 PM
  #39
Atas2000
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 3,824
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yakushev72 View Post
Does this mean that Naumenkov is injured and unavailable, or just not invited?
He's injured and definitely out for the WJC.

Atas2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 05:18 PM
  #40
IHaveNoCreativity
HFB Partner
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Somewhere in Quebec.
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,273
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atas2000 View Post
He is playing well with Tolpar. The most progress wiill come now with competition and game action and with age. He's very talented, but he needs to mature to compete at senior level. I have a feeling he has let success get to him a little to much talking about leaving for NA and not getting a chance in Ufa. Another WJC will be a useful experience once again. And he would get his chances in Ufa. The senior team isn't exactly loaded with superstars in net.

On a side note. Andrei Makarov is the best of the 3 camp call ups. He's extremely solid mentally. Something Vasilevsky should develop with age actually. Makarov's only handicap will be that he's playing on small rinks for some time now and would have to adapt back to european rinks. And nobody is talking about Ustinsky, but he is at the very least very close to the top 2 guys.
I'm surprised that he didn't go to the CHL... Well actually no, his team isn't very good. And UFA is a powerhouse...

Maybe after the WJC he leaves...

To the OP... CHL teams make money. To do so they have to win.. And they must attract top talent... So they have to have a good reputation... They develop players just fine. To succeed in North America you have to adapt to our game...

Most players want to succeed here.. And the CHL has helped players succeed.

IHaveNoCreativity is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 05:27 PM
  #41
Fulcrum
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Toronto, ON
Country: Russian Federation
Posts: 2,605
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity View Post
I'm surprised that he didn't go to the CHL... Well actually no, his team isn't very good. And UFA is a powerhouse...

Maybe after the WJC he leaves...

To the OP... CHL teams make money. To do so they have to win.. And they must attract top talent... So they have to have a good reputation... They develop players just fine. To succeed in North America you have to adapt to our game...

Most players want to succeed here.. And the CHL has helped players succeed.
you know what, I'm not even gonna bother (deleted my post)

Fulcrum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 07:15 PM
  #42
40oz
..........
 
40oz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Country: Canada
Posts: 15,098
vCash: 500
Are Russia going to keep 3 goalies for the tournament?

I just noticed that Makarov has played all of the Blades 28 games this year (plus 1 SSS game). Crazy.

Either way, Russia is set in net. Probably the best goaltending in in the tournament.

40oz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 07:23 PM
  #43
S E P H
@Krzysztof_WHL
 
S E P H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Avs Country!
Country: Poland
Posts: 5,190
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity View Post
A little surprised that Zykov wasn't invited..
Same here, but with a potential CBA deal soon there is a chance he could be on the team considering Yapukov and Grigerenko could be sent to their NHL teams.

S E P H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 07:25 PM
  #44
Stop Winnin
TANK ON BOYS
 
Stop Winnin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Buffalo
Posts: 8,803
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atas2000 View Post
He is playing well with Tolpar. The most progress wiill come now with competition and game action and with age. He's very talented, but he needs to mature to compete at senior level. I have a feeling he has let success get to him a little to much talking about leaving for NA and not getting a chance in Ufa. Another WJC will be a useful experience once again. And he would get his chances in Ufa. The senior team isn't exactly loaded with superstars in net.

On a side note. Andrei Makarov is the best of the 3 camp call ups. He's extremely solid mentally. Something Vasilevsky should develop with age actually. Makarov's only handicap will be that he's playing on small rinks for some time now and would have to adapt back to european rinks. And nobody is talking about Ustinsky, but he is at the very least very close to the top 2 guys.
Really? I was under the impression that he was a headcase, was I wrong about this?

Stop Winnin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 07:30 PM
  #45
Sartorial
#RegisteredUser
 
Sartorial's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Saskatoon
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,127
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by 40oz View Post
Are Russia going to keep 3 goalies for the tournament?

I just noticed that Makarov has played all of the Blades 28 games this year (plus 1 SSS game). Crazy.

Either way, Russia is set in net. Probably the best goaltending in in the tournament.
All but one. The one he didn't play, Swift Current beat the Blades 10 -1.

Not that it really means anything, it's just kind of funny.

Sartorial is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-05-2012, 09:55 PM
  #46
IHaveNoCreativity
HFB Partner
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Somewhere in Quebec.
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,273
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by S E P H View Post
Same here, but with a potential CBA deal soon there is a chance he could be on the team considering Yapukov and Grigerenko could be sent to their NHL teams.
I geuss we will find out.

IHaveNoCreativity is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-06-2012, 12:37 AM
  #47
Atas2000
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 3,824
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kishire View Post
Really? I was under the impression that he was a headcase, was I wrong about this?
He is always at his best under pressure. And I mean to come in cold after Vasilevsky failed and save the game against Canada is not what I would call a head case.

Atas2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-06-2012, 01:08 AM
  #48
Sartorial
#RegisteredUser
 
Sartorial's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Saskatoon
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,127
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atas2000 View Post
He is always at his best under pressure. And I mean to come in cold after Vasilevsky failed and save the game against Canada is not what I would call a head case.
Yea, at least in his body language he never seems too rattled. Seems pretty calm most times.

Sartorial is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-06-2012, 02:15 AM
  #49
Nash
Registered User
 
Nash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: North Vancouver
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,924
vCash: 500
I think Russia should be the favorite this year. 9 returning players, 2 returning goalies, depth, size, skill, international ice, home advantage...I still hope Team Canada beats you, but it will be tough.

What's with the sudden development of great goalies? I miss facing guys like Medvedev

Nash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-06-2012, 05:13 AM
  #50
Alivesi
Registered User
 
Alivesi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 976
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by IHaveNoCreativity View Post
How is Andrei playing this year ? Can he top last year's performance ?
He leads the MHL in Save percentage, but currently I think he is doing mop up duty in the KHL.

Alivesi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:45 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.