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12-05-2012, 05:38 PM
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Either Steven Strong is more hurt than people think or another deal is coming to move a D man (maybe Ringuette). I'll bet on the second secnario.

What kind of player are the Spirit getting here?
I will miss Glass he is a good stay at home defence man keep it simple,very good on PK. He not flashy but he get the job done. I wish him all the best, he was fun to watch.

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Well lets put it this way Glass had a tendency to put the puck in his own net.

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Well lets put it this way Glass had a tendency to put the puck in his own net.
what player do you watch not Glass,you must not know that much about the game with a statment like that. look at all the ice time and how many pk he killed againt other teams top line.he is very good.and he will be missed

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Either Steven Strong is more hurt than people think or another deal is coming to move a D man (maybe Ringuette). I'll bet on the second secnario.

What kind of player are the Spirit getting here?
Not a great puck handler and not very physical. On the plus side he is a great kid

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Does anyone know about Hamiton meeting next week to vote on the Otters moving there next year.

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Does anyone know about Hamiton meeting next week to vote on the Otters moving there next year.
They are meeting to decide if they want to renew the lease with the current AHL team. But some think if they dont then that clears the way for the Otters to move.
Who knows every article i have read and seen posted on the web from Hamilton most of the fans want to keep the AHL team

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They are meeting to decide if they want to renew the lease with the current AHL team. But some think if they dont then that clears the way for the Otters to move.
Who knows every article i have read and seen posted on the web from Hamilton most of the fans want to keep the AHL team
thanks for the info otters fan, if they move that would be a real heart breaker.

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Glass was a steady player for the otters and I think at times people put too much blame on the defenceman for this teams poor defensive play. Because they have high profile offensive guys the poor defence by the forwards gets overlooked. Defence is a team thing, not the six guys that play the position. Sure the defines turn the puck over but there turnovers look much worse because the only person to bail them out is the goalie, when the forwards turn the puck over it is often overlooked because there is the defenseman then the goalie there to bail them out. Offense is generated by point shots and turnovers at the bluelines, and if you watch a game count how many turnovers there are in the neutral zone and offensive blue line. Im not saying the D are innocent but the forwards arent any better. As for the rumours of Batemen to Erie I think that would be a bad trade by Erie. They need some toughness to thier blue line and some physicallity. They dont need another undersized PP puck mover. Remember when thinking about possible trades, What can Erie offer to get a stud with out giving up an important piece to the team? Teams dont easily part with good defenseman because they are the most important players outside of goaltenders. If this team adds big strong 94 stay at home defenseman it sets them up good for next season with a defines core that is as good as any. Next year is this teams year. I would like to see this come trade deadline.
Pelech - 94 Shutdown type defenseman
McDowell - Abraham (They seem to play really well together both are pretty good with the puck)
Donnay - 95 (two way defenseman)

If this team wants to win next year Felker will not play its that simple and Kuleshov will go home and they'll draft a new European next year. He hasnt played enough this year for him to be a part of a championship push next season. And Kuleshov although he has shown improvements, I think we could get a real good forward in next years Euro draft as long as we bring in a couple dmen this year.

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Glass was a steady player for the otters and I think at times people put too much blame on the defenceman for this teams poor defensive play. Because they have high profile offensive guys the poor defence by the forwards gets overlooked. Defence is a team thing, not the six guys that play the position. Sure the defines turn the puck over but there turnovers look much worse because the only person to bail them out is the goalie, when the forwards turn the puck over it is often overlooked because there is the defenseman then the goalie there to bail them out. Offense is generated by point shots and turnovers at the bluelines, and if you watch a game count how many turnovers there are in the neutral zone and offensive blue line. Im not saying the D are innocent but the forwards arent any better. As for the rumours of Batemen to Erie I think that would be a bad trade by Erie. They need some toughness to thier blue line and some physicallity. They dont need another undersized PP puck mover. Remember when thinking about possible trades, What can Erie offer to get a stud with out giving up an important piece to the team? Teams dont easily part with good defenseman because they are the most important players outside of goaltenders. If this team adds big strong 94 stay at home defenseman it sets them up good for next season with a defines core that is as good as any. Next year is this teams year. I would like to see this come trade deadline.
Pelech - 94 Shutdown type defenseman
McDowell - Abraham (They seem to play really well together both are pretty good with the puck)
Donnay - 95 (two way defenseman)

If this team wants to win next year Felker will not play its that simple and Kuleshov will go home and they'll draft a new European next year. He hasnt played enough this year for him to be a part of a championship push next season. And Kuleshov although he has shown improvements, I think we could get a real good forward in next years Euro draft as long as we bring in a couple dmen this year.
I agree with you here, especially with Glass and Kuleshov. Glass did get a lot of blame and at times I blamed him myself. He could some games be a good shutdown guy but others he was a liability out there. Wish him the best in Saginaw.
Kuleshov we are on the same page too, he really has shown improvements but has he improved enough to pass on a potential top 10 Euro pick? The answer is obviously no.

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12-06-2012, 01:11 PM
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Noticed that the Otters have dealt much maligned d-man Nathan Glass to Erie for a draft pick 7th rder I believe
Strange considering they will lose Adam Pelech to Team Canada jr tryouts after this weekend,though they will move Wood back to defence with the return of Dane Fox to the lineup
Perhaps they will bring up Patrick Murphy currently playing for Port Colbourne ,scoring 9 goals and 11 assists 60 Pims in 22 games,pretty impressive stats including 8 pts in his last 5 games
One rumor is Murphy to Windsor for Adam Bateman,cant confirm however
Hey Legend, you want to send that Murphy kid to Windsor, no problem, why Erie would let him go ? Saw the kid last year play for Erie against the Knights, big 6ft 3 inch, probably at least what 200lbs, two way D. From his stats on Erie last year he got 3 points in only 9 games. Why you guys don't have him in the line up bizarre. I went on and checked that Port Colborne Team and yeah the Murphy kid is making a mess. As a Defenseman, 20 points in like 21 games 9 of them goals and you were right 8 points alone in the last 5 games as a D, go figure. I don't care if it is a junior league or not, that is production. We will take him for Bateman in a second. Bateman needs a change of scenery, if they both have similar education packages, it would be a wash. But with Glass now gone. Pelech maybe headed to Team Canada, why would they let Murphy go. Like I said send the kid our way

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Hey Legend, you want to send that Murphy kid to Windsor, no problem, why Erie would let him go ? Saw the kid last year play for Erie against the Knights, big 6ft 3 inch, probably at least what 200lbs, two way D. From his stats on Erie last year he got 3 points in only 9 games. Why you guys don't have him in the line up bizarre. I went on and checked that Port Colborne Team and yeah the Murphy kid is making a mess. As a Defenseman, 20 points in like 21 games 9 of them goals and you were right 8 points alone in the last 5 games as a D, go figure. I don't care if it is a junior league or not, that is production. We will take him for Bateman in a second. Bateman needs a change of scenery, if they both have similar education packages, it would be a wash. But with Glass now gone. Pelech maybe headed to Team Canada, why would they let Murphy go. Like I said send the kid our way
I agree, I was absolutely shocked when Murphy was cut from the team during camp. I thought for sure he would have made the team and I still cannot figure out why he is not up here playing. During the off season I had Murphy making the team over Glass and another d-man. I think if Erie deals him for Bateman that is horrible for Erie, Bateman is a small puck moving d-man which is not what Erie needs on the back end. I am almost pressed to think that if Bateman was not a first round pick he probably would not be on the Spits rosters this year.

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Well the city of hamilton had there vote today and they agreed stay with the Bulldogs .I was told the Bulldogs are going to sign a new lease.That should put the rumors that the otter are moving to rest.

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Well the city of hamilton had there vote today and they agreed stay with the Bulldogs .I was told the Bulldogs are going to sign a new lease.That should put the rumors that the otter are moving to rest.
One can only hope. I for one am pretty tired of the rumors, I said from the start I would be surprised to see the team move before the 14-15 season if at all in the near future. I am sure some people will still stir the pot though.

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12-07-2012, 11:59 AM
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Has anyone heard anything regarding trade rumors with Erie? This team really needs to make something happen. the fans are getting restless

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Dane Fox finally is returning to the lineup tonight. Lets hope he can add a spark to some second line scoring.

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Hey Cookie read post #410. Why you guys would want to trade Patrick Murphy kid who is in your system and why he is not up playing with you guys, especially when Glass in gone and you will lose Pelech to the Juniors, is beyond bizarre. That Murphy kid 6 ft 3, 200lbs, two way "D" we will take him for Batemen in a New York minute and we will throw in 2 tickets to any Casino Windsor performance for a year.

We would also like Nick Betz, is that guy back or around or what?

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Hey Cookie read post #410. Why you guys would want to trade Patrick Murphy kid who is in your system and why he is not up playing with you guys, especially when Glass in gone and you will lose Pelech to the Juniors, is beyond bizarre. That Murphy kid 6 ft 3, 200lbs, two way "D" we will take him for Batemen in a New York minute and we will throw in 2 tickets to any Casino Windsor performance for a year.

We would also like Nick Betz, is that guy back or around or what?
First off who told you the Otters were interested in getting rid of Murphy? I agree that they were morons for him not to make the team out of camp let alone not have him up by now.

Betz is recovering still and wont be back till after christmas is my guess.
By the way you guys can keep Bateman,we dont need another small defenseman.

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Hey Cookie read post #410. Why you guys would want to trade Patrick Murphy kid who is in your system and why he is not up playing with you guys, especially when Glass in gone and you will lose Pelech to the Juniors, is beyond bizarre. That Murphy kid 6 ft 3, 200lbs, two way "D" we will take him for Batemen in a New York minute and we will throw in 2 tickets to any Casino Windsor performance for a year.

We would also like Nick Betz, is that guy back or around or what?
Betz is still out after having his appendix out,I would like to have him in Windsor too,wont happen though
I still Erie is making a mistake not having Murphy up with the team,and if they are not then trade him

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In trading for a player there are a lot of moving parts. The draft pick is one consideration and another big thing is the education fund that player has in his contract. It can be tens of thousands of dollars that a team will have to pick up when they make a trade. I believe Erie could be looking for the right deal on players. They also have to be aware of extra costs when they call up a player from a previous draft. It will be interesting to see what they do.


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Glass was a steady player for the otters and I think at times people put too much blame on the defenceman for this teams poor defensive play. Because they have high profile offensive guys the poor defence by the forwards gets overlooked. Defence is a team thing, not the six guys that play the position. Sure the defines turn the puck over but there turnovers look much worse because the only person to bail them out is the goalie, when the forwards turn the puck over it is often overlooked because there is the defenseman then the goalie there to bail them out. Offense is generated by point shots and turnovers at the bluelines, and if you watch a game count how many turnovers there are in the neutral zone and offensive blue line. Im not saying the D are innocent but the forwards arent any better. As for the rumours of Batemen to Erie I think that would be a bad trade by Erie. They need some toughness to thier blue line and some physicallity. They dont need another undersized PP puck mover. Remember when thinking about possible trades, What can Erie offer to get a stud with out giving up an important piece to the team? Teams dont easily part with good defenseman because they are the most important players outside of goaltenders. If this team adds big strong 94 stay at home defenseman it sets them up good for next season with a defines core that is as good as any. Next year is this teams year. I would like to see this come trade deadline.
Pelech - 94 Shutdown type defenseman
McDowell - Abraham (They seem to play really well together both are pretty good with the puck)
Donnay - 95 (two way defenseman)

If this team wants to win next year Felker will not play its that simple and Kuleshov will go home and they'll draft a new European next year. He hasnt played enough this year for him to be a part of a championship push next season. And Kuleshov although he has shown improvements, I think we could get a real good forward in next years Euro draft as long as we bring in a couple dmen this year.
Championship run next year? That's a little ambitious. Wingers need it drilled into them that nothing is more important than controlling the puck on the half boards down low and getting the puck deep when you're at center. Not doing these two things leads to a lot of turnovers nite in and nite out.

Felker is both mobile and possesses a good first pass. He has size and while he may not be the hardest player to play against but he picks his spots. It was a deep draft and you had a good draft and in addition to Murphy have 2 or 3 Dmen that are mobile, hard to play against and skilled which is exactly what is needed. Currently, this group tends to get pushed around a bit after giving up the blue line and the opposition are getting multiple whacks at the puck in front. If anything, Felker should be playing more than he is and the D needs to be addressed in a big way.

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Well this weekend reminded me of an old Clint Eastwood movie; The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. Unfortunately there was more ugly than anything else. The good would be the win on Friday, the bad would be today in Brampton and the Ugly would be Saturday against Guelph with the whole teddy bear toss incident.
I think this team is really starting to fall into a slump with only 2 wins in their last 11 and the last two games being outscored 13-2. Earlier in the season the games were at least close but they did not show up to play last night or today and got embarrassed because of it. The only good thing right now is that the holiday break is almost here and hopefully they can end with a few positives.

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Well this weekend reminded me of an old Clint Eastwood movie; The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. Unfortunately there was more ugly than anything else. The good would be the win on Friday, the bad would be today in Brampton and the Ugly would be Saturday against Guelph with the whole teddy bear toss incident.
I think this team is really starting to fall into a slump with only 2 wins in their last 11 and the last two games being outscored 13-2. Earlier in the season the games were at least close but they did not show up to play last night or today and got embarrassed because of it. The only good thing right now is that the holiday break is almost here and hopefully they can end with a few positives.
One or two goal games in September become routs come Christmas. Knoblach has a reputation for getting the best out of his players by holding them accountable and not playing favourites. Lets hope he is as advertised. If your best players aren't getting the job done than they aren't your best players. Time to limit their ice and hold them accountable while signalling to the rest that whomever is gonna get the job done is gonna see the lions share of the ice.

Reminds me of when we were blown out in London a couple of months ago and in the tunnel waiting to come out for the third, down 5 zip and guys were laughing and joking. Wow. Shouldn't matter who you are or where you were drafted and why at this point. Time for some long overdue accountability. With great goaltending and a top 6 as good as any in the league there is no excuse for this display.

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I made the trip up to Erie this weekend for the Ottawa and Guelph games. It was a good time, but the team still has a long way to go. The Guelph game was a disaster with the teddy bear incident. Their backup goalie played horrendous, but the team didn't help him too much. They are a wreck in the defensive zone, and gave up a lot of turnovers in their transition play. I'm sure having a new coach just coming in might have them jumbled, but I was surprised how poor they played against an average team. They have some solid pieces, though, and the potential is there in the next couple years.

I was shocked to see talk of moving to Hamilton on here. Does that have a real posibility of happening, and is it more of Hamilton having interest or the Otters looking to leave? It seems odd that they would be considering moving when their arena is in the midst of a renovation. It looks really nice from the outside, and the completed area is a lot bigger and nicer than the last time I was there during the 04-05 lockout. I already have plans for another trip next month and plan to make at least 1 trip a year in the future, it would be sad if they left. They seem to be a pretty big part of the community.


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#9 Abraham and Kuleshov #19 against Brampton today played terrible. I dont see every Erie game but what I saw from them from a decision making standpoint was terrible. Erie defenseman aside from Pelech, make horrible outlet passes. Abraham panics and just wants to get rid of the puck, doesnt matter where it goes. This happened on so many occasions. The third or fourth goal was a result of 2 turnovers in there own zone, trying to make horrible outlet passes and finally they made them pay for it. They need to work on breaking out. Today I really questioned what the heck the Coach was doing. I have no idea why Erie tries 100 foot passes all game long, which never seemed to work. I dont know why they wont stop that asap. Ya they are low on talent right now but Im not sure why those long stretch passes are constant. They would love a puck rusher. Mcdowell I like his skating alot. Pelech can skate well for a big man, but they would love an elite puck mover who can skate that puck up the ice. Donnay is big but in small spaces he moves very slowly. Id really play Felker in a Top 4 and PP role alot down the stretch. I like Hodgeson skating and his upside. I like him playing with Harper. I feel bad for the team, I know how tiring losing gets. Dansk is a fantastic goalie, he deserves so much credit for not snapping at his teammates. This must be tough on him. I like how Erie drafted in the begginning of the draft, but was very puzzled with other parts. I hope they can draft well this year. The first round is the easiest part of the draft. If they can do something like the Soo did this year grabbing a few really good guys in the 5-6 rounds, it would be fantastic.

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First off who told you the Otters were interested in getting rid of Murphy? I agree that they were morons for him not to make the team out of camp let alone not have him up by now.

Betz is recovering still and wont be back till after christmas is my guess.
By the way you guys can keep Bateman,we dont need another small defenseman.
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I never said they were getting rid of the kid. It was some posting on this board that said he was mentioned in a trade to Windsor. But tell me this, you let that Glass guy go for a pick, Pelech will probably be gone for at least 6 weeks with the Juniors, and apparently this Murphy kid 6ft 200lbs plus, is lighting a fire on the Junior team as a D, something like 25 points in 22 games. So if a team has a player like that in their system, they are short D and they do not call him up, are you telling me they are still not done with the kid ? What am I missing? Send him to Windsor if the Otter's are not going to use the kid. I could understand if Eire was in the top 4 of the league, but how could that kid make them any worse. Anyhow, I feel sorry for you guys, cause this was suppose to be a much better year, but wow 8 to nothing at home on Saturday. At least I think the Spits will make the playoffs, as for Erie, you need to do something quick, or this season with all it's promise is a write off. Good Luck

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