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12-06-2012, 03:33 AM
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i can't imagine texas trading profar.


Tend to agree. If they make a deal it'll most likely be Andrus.

Andrus can go to CF or even move to 2B if Kinsler ends up in outfield so there's definitely room for both Andrus and Profar.

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12-06-2012, 03:47 AM
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if Kinsler ends up in outfield
According some of last rumours, Kinsler most likely would end up at first base. If they want, they can find a way to start Kinsler, Andrus and Profar at same time. Imagine that infield - Kinsler 1B, Profar 2B, Andrus SS, Beltre 3B. Probably the best D infield in the league if happen.

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12-06-2012, 03:50 AM
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According some of last rumours, Kinsler most likely would end up at first base. If they want, they can find a way to start Kinsler, Andrus and Profar at same time.

There's also Olt who is 1B bound as he's blocked by Beltre till after 2015 season at the earliest. Good problems to have.

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12-06-2012, 06:33 AM
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Good problems to have.
this is exactly why i can't see texas trading profar.

they're dealing from strength. want a shortstop? take andrus. want a 1b? take moreland. they don't need either guy and both are good enough to get good returns and clear space for their as good, if not better, replacements.

daniels is one of the best gm's in the game for a reason. and that reason isn't shipping players like profar out.

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12-06-2012, 08:03 AM
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this is exactly why i can't see texas trading profar.

they're dealing from strength. want a shortstop? take andrus. want a 1b? take moreland. they don't need either guy and both are good enough to get good returns and clear space for their as good, if not better, replacements.

daniels is one of the best gm's in the game for a reason. and that reason isn't shipping players like profar out.
I really don't think there's much of a chance Andrus or Profar get traded. Kinsler is going to have to move off of 2nd eventually and the team doesn't have any serious 2B prospects. There's no indication that Profar will ever be superior to Andrus defensively at SS. The natural fit is to put Profar at 2B and leave Andrus alone. I don't think people quite appreciate what a disaster trading Andrus would be for the Rangers. His impact on the overall success of the club goes beyond what is directly measurable.

In other news, please God let the Phillies take Michael Young.

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12-06-2012, 09:18 AM
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2012 Rule 5 Draft Results

Astros take Josh Fields from Red Sox
Cubs take Hector Rondon from Indians
Rockies take Danny Rosenbaum from Nationals
Twins take Ryan Pressly from Red Sox
Indians take Chris McGuiness from Rangers
Marlins take Alfredo Silverio from Dodgers
Red Sox take Jeff Kobernus from Nationals
Mets take Kyle Lobstein from Rays
Diamondbacks take Starlin Peralta from Cubs
Phillies take Ender Inciarte from Diamondbacks
White Sox take Angel Sanchez from Angels
Orioles take T.J. McFarland from Indians
Rangers take Coty Woods from Rockies

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12-06-2012, 09:39 AM
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Why would the DBacks trade Upton and Bauer to get Cabrera?

That 4 way deal makes no sense to me. It should just be the Rangers and DBacks in a 2 team trade.
The deal seems closer to dead than alive and very complicated, we are missing several details I am sure.

As for the last part. Texas won't deal Profar, DBacks won't trade 3 years of Upton for 2 years of Andrus and the Boras headache.

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12-06-2012, 10:27 AM
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Grilli down to #Pirates, #Cubs, #BlueJays. Will be two-year deal. #SFGiants out.

Why would Grilli go to Cubs?

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12-06-2012, 10:33 AM
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Grilli down to #Pirates, #Cubs, #BlueJays. Will be two-year deal. #SFGiants out.

Why would Grilli go to Cubs?
Money and length of deal.

Also, saw he resides in Orlando during the offseason... so not like any team has an advantage location wise.

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Don't know how to feel about Youk and Yanks
He'll not kill you on the field, work counts, and get on base a lot. He'd hold down 3rd while Arod's out, and then spell either corner when he's not DHing. I have a hard time seeing negatives for the Yanks in signing Youk.

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Rosenthal with a dizzying article on the 4 team trade possibilities: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/j...e-talks-120612

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Uehara to Boston. Finally great signing for them.

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12-06-2012, 11:56 AM
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I wonder how many Sox fans will burn their Youk jerseys if he signs with the Yanks.

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I came here solely to LOL about the prospect of the Royals trading Wil Myers for R.A. Dickey. And the Mets apparently wanting more than just Myers.

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I came here solely to LOL about the prospect of the Royals trading Wil Myers for R.A. Dickey. And the Mets apparently wanting more than just Myers.


Silly Mets, you'll never be good.

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I came here solely to LOL about the prospect of the Royals trading Wil Myers for R.A. Dickey. And the Mets apparently wanting more than just Myers.
That's why they are the LOLMets.

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2012 Rule 5 Draft Results

Cubs take Hector Rondon from Indians
Looking through the results...Rondon has pitched less than 40 innings in the past 3 years combined.

He was a good prospect before his elbow turned to mush, but it's hard to imagine that one working out.

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Royals left winter meetings without any deals. Still talking Shields but price of Myers-plus too much -- for now.

That's crazy. The Ray should just take Myers for him and be happy.

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5. James Shields, whom the Rays aren't eager to trade but won't turn down a blow-away offer. Once Greinke signs and the losers of that derby go hunting for pitching, Shields will be arguably the best available.

Tampa Bay's talks with Kansas City stalled late Wednesday over the strength of the Royals' offer. While top prospect Wil Myers is a starting point, the Rays "want a lot more," according to a source. Some of that is posturing, but a majority of executives agree: almost seven years of Myers does not necessarily equal two reasonable-cost years of Shields.

Their rationale: Myers is a corner outfielder, and good corner outfielders can be had for between $8 million and $10 million on the free-agent market. Josh Willingham, Jason Kubel, Michael Cuddyer – they are bat-only guys, sure, but so is Myers. And for a bat to play at star level in a corner, Myers would need to hit well over 30 home runs, something scouts aren't certain he would do. One executive, of course, called him Ryan Braun 2.0, so there is that.

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Rumour is from one of the many frock Evan P Grant twitter profiles.


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I blame Amy Fadool for retweeting it

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Why would the DBacks trade Upton and Bauer to get Cabrera?

That 4 way deal makes no sense to me. It should just be the Rangers and DBacks in a 2 team trade.
Yeah, I don't get that either. That would be a horrific deal for Arizona. Heck, just Cabrera for Upton would be terrible. Not only is Upton so much better but Cabrera is OLDER. I really hope they don't do that.

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Arizona would've got Profar too I think, or Olt.

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