“@TSNBobMcKenzie: I wouldn't try to predict how things go today but player mood last night was pretty dark. But it's emotional process. See what today brings.”
“@TSNBobMcKenzie: PA doesn't like 5 yr term limits on contracts or 10 yr term of CBA or fact that Make Whole bump to $300M is tied to accepting 10 yr CBA.”
Is this what the last few days of a lockout looks like?
Are the remaining issues worth losing a season for?
“@TSNBobMcKenzie: I can tell you there's a hugely negative vibe emanating from both sides right now. Keeping this process on rails today will be challenging.”
Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie I can tell you there's a hugely negative vibe emanating from both sides right now. Keeping this process on rails today will be challenging.
But that's already been basically agreed to. The 50-50 split has been decided more or less.
The contracting issues are what remains, and it doesn't make sense to throw away more money so that future Rick DiPietros can get long term contracts.
I understand it has been agreed to. But both sides have to look at it as an entire package--and for the NHLPA, having agreed already to a 50/50 split makes it much harder to swallow a contract length cap.
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I don't agree.
Maybe I'm wrong, but it sounds to me that what you are implying is that since top players used to get 10 year deals, and average players would get 4-5 year deals, and bottom players got 1-2 year deals...
... that since we are shortening the max deal to 5 years, that means average players will get 3 year deals and bottom players will get 1 year deals, and that will be the "trickle down effect" you are talking about.
I don't agree with that. I think the top players will get the 5 year deals and the average won't suffer shorter length deals at all, on average.
I think they will. Every contract that's signed is in some way relative to past contracts that are signed. What you wrote is indeed what I'm suggesting. Top players will get five year deals. Lesser players are going to have to have to settle for less--GMs will take the approach that, "Player X is great and he got five years, there's no way we're giving you the same." Some lesser players may see longer-term deals still but on average you'll see less and less.
It's just my opinion though, so we'll have to wait and see.
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The players who currently get over 5 year deals are the vast minority.
Unless you believe that a trickle-down effect will occur on contract lengths for everyone, and I don't, there's really no effect for most of the players.
Guys like Del Zotto or whoever were only gonna get like 4-5 year deals anyway. All this does is bump the Brad Richards types into the 5 year range too.
Yeah, I don't get it. Do they really want to do this again 5 years from now? Are they that afraid that they're getting a bad deal? More than any other sport, the NHL needs labor peace for as long as it can get it. Take the 10 year CBA with option at 8 years.
If both sides let these remaining issues torpedo the season they both deserve what they get.
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“@TSNBobMcKenzie: Challenging, but not out of the question. It always comes back to this question: Are these differences worth losing a season or more?”
“@TSNBobMcKenzie: I can tell you there's a hugely negative vibe emanating from both sides right now. Keeping this process on rails today will be challenging.”
“@TSNBobMcKenzie: I know PA doesn't like 10 yr CBA - 8 if opt out exercised - but I personally think long term may be only "hook" to try to win back fans.”
“@Real_ESPNLeBrun: On one hand, don't think they're far from agreement on principle issues. But on flip side, clearly a sense this thing is hanging by a thread”
