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12-06-2012, 01:55 AM
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Jan 6/13: CBA reached to end the Lockout. Rejoice! (Post#783)

Get the sense this will be the last thread started on this before either a deal or a wiped season.

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Is that a Lost quote? Been so long I forget but I think Jacob said that and it was awesome!

But it does seem like tomorrow is a gigantic day.

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Is that a Lost quote? Been so long I forget but I think Jacob said that and it was awesome!

But it does seem like tomorrow is a gigantic day.
It is. It seemed fitting considering we seem to be nearing the end one way or the other.

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More podium pls. Aaron Rome's outtangibles would have avoided a lockout. Bring him in!

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More podium pls. Aaron Rome's outtangibles would have avoided a lockout. Bring him in!
I'm glad this lasted this long

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Can this be the official song of this thread?



a) Canadian band
b) About labour issues
c) Almost out of the dark woods that was the lockout, both sides were seeing the forest instead of the trees
d) It's a good ****ing song.

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Sounds like Bettman and Fehr are joining the fray again. The sides are also going to change/reduce their negoatiation teams. If Burkle isn't involved on the owners side, then they are not working to get a deal done IMO.

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I find it silly the major sticking point for the owners is still the max 5 year contract length. I can't fathom the players understanding that stance, especially with all the 6 and 7 year deals handed out before he expiration of the last CBA.

The 5% rule should be enough here, shouldn't it. I think it does.

10 years with the 5% rule is a fair compromise to me.

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I find it silly the major sticking point for the owners is still the max 5 year contract length. I can't fathom the players understanding that stance, especially with all the 6 and 7 year deals handed out before he expiration of the last CBA.

The 5% rule should be enough here, shouldn't it. I think it does.

10 years with the 5% rule is a fair compromise to me.
Agreed, if they didn't want players to be able to sign them to 5+ year deals THEN DON'T SIGN THEM!!!!

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I agree tha 5% should be sufficient. 7 year length across the board too.


I do not understand why the PA is insisting on a 5 year deal. PR wise its infathomably stupid. I don't see why it's a sticking point unless they say "for every year of contract length well give you a year of CBA. I don't know why you'd want to be doing this again in 5 years. They'd lose even more fans and have less money (in relative terms) to draw from.

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Can this be the official song of this thread?



a) Canadian band
b) About labour issues
c) Almost out of the dark woods that was the lockout, both sides were seeing the forest instead of the trees
d) It's a good ****ing song.
The trouble with the players, and they're quite convinced they're right...

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Rush?

they have these lyrics how trees are talking to each other and how different sides of your brains work and outer space ********

Helix now theres a band

Give me an R

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Rush?

they have these lyrics how trees are talking to each other and how different sides of your brains work and outer space ********

Helix now theres a band

Give me an R
How dare you, sir.


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Sounds like the PA is delaying again. I am really getting fed up with some of these childish tactics the PA seems to be using.

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Sounds like the PA is delaying again. I am really getting fed up with some of these childish tactics the PA seems to be using.
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RT @JSportsnet: The vibe has gotten progressively worse since last night...one player source tells me "things are not going well right now".
At this point, I'm not keeping my hopes up high; just going to assume that there'll be no season.

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Seems like there's a lot of internal disagreements on both sides right now. Depending on who you follow on twitter, you might be getting the message that it's close to over or that it's about to completely blow up.

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Seems like there's a lot of internal disagreements on both sides right now. Depending on who you follow on twitter, you might be getting the message that it's close to over or that it's about to completely blow up.
I think the owners who disagree with the direction right now are willing to bend to it more than the players who disagree with the direction.

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Well, we're getting bent, so they should be, too.

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I don't see a need to put restrictions on contract limits. If the owners don't like long term deals then don't sign them. It's very simple.

I do think that cap hits should stick with the team for the duration of the contract though, but aside from that I see no need for restrictions.

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I don't see a need to put restrictions on contract limits. If the owners don't like long term deals then don't sign them. It's very simple.

I do think that cap hits should stick with the team for the duration of the contract though, but aside from that I see no need for restrictions.
It is a unfair advantage that hurts smaller markets

Look no further then what Flyers did to Preds (Frontloading Weber deal with absurd amounts of bonus $$$)

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It is a unfair advantage that hurts smaller markets

Look no further then what Flyers did to Preds (Frontloading Weber deal with absurd amounts of bonus $$$)
5% rule negates this.

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12-06-2012, 12:58 PM
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To the folks who say teams should not sign long term deals if they don't want them on their books, the trouble is that these negotiations occur in a marketplace and if Team A does not want long term contracts on their books ant Team B will give players the same money at double the term, Team A is at a significant disadvantage.

The nature of being a GM (ice a competitive team or you're fired) means that the temptation is to make moves that make your team better now even if they are at the expense of your ability to compete in the future.

It is and will always be this way if the CBA allows it, since teams cannot mutually agree upon any standards for contracts outside of the CBA (that's collusion).

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How dare you, sir.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRwjTCC3Pyo

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5% rule negates this.
Agreed. You can have this rule in and still allow 10-15 year deals and there shouldn't be any problems.

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