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12-06-2012, 01:09 PM
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Not interested in this type of change. Honestly, the idea pretty stupid.

But it would be funny to see a team control the ball for the entire game.

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12-06-2012, 01:11 PM
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I don't see how this makes any sense. Kickoffs have been a part of the game since it's beginning. They could find other ways to prevents head injuries without getting rid of them completely.
Sure, make kickoffs flag football...

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You might as well just take all physical contact out of sports.

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There is a huge groundswell about the long term effects of concussions in sports. The NHL has obviously been trying to deal with the issue, now the NFL.

One of the ways they are trying is to slow down the game. Hence the reason for the obstruction crap creeping back into the NHL, (because the no two-line offside rule has picked up the forward speed through the neutral zone so much that collisions are creating more concussions) and now the NFL is contemplating taking out the kick-off.

Tis a shame as both play sequences are very exciting but given the enhancements of sports equipment, it's almost like jousting tournament.....players are getting mangled.

There's also a movement to take heading the ball out of youth soccer and now serious issues are being raised with concussions among high school football in Massachusetts.

And I won't even mention the controversies among the boxing and UFA circuits....

This is not going to go away and we are going to have a lot of "concerned" hand wringing about the situation. I'm betting that there will be some type of government inquiries and sub-committee groups doing a lot of research in the not-so-distant future.

After all, this is a very litigious society we live in.

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Terrible, just awful.

Make it take it, basically? WTF!! This ain't pick up basketball.

Kickoffs are part of the game. Guys who make a living as either a returner or Special teams ace get phased out by this too.

It'll be the National Flag Football League soon enough. Even the South Park Sarcastaball doesn't seem that far fetched and over the top anymore.

What I find hilarious is that Goodell/owners are all about player safety yet added these Thursday Night Games all year and are still pushing an 18 game schedule. They're not safety issues though, nope only kickoffs are because kickoffs don't = $$$$$. Hypocrites.

It's all a ploy to try and save their ***** in these concussions, post career quality of life lawsuits.

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12-06-2012, 02:21 PM
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Not interested in this type of change. Honestly, the idea pretty stupid.

But it would be funny to see a team control the ball for the entire game.
This right here is the reason why I want to see it. Imagine a team getting the ball for ZERO seconds in a 60 minute game.

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12-06-2012, 02:44 PM
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This right here is the reason why I want to see it. Imagine a team getting the ball for ZERO seconds in a 60 minute game.
Would never happen. No team could consistently make 4th and 15 without failing once against a NFL defense. Be it a dropped pass, a penalty, a checkdown tackled short, an errant throw, a sack or batted ball, etc. Not even mentioning always having to end the drive with a score and thus never having to punt (can't miss FGs either).

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12-06-2012, 04:22 PM
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Actually, does this get rid of the opening/halftime kickoffs as well? If so, I don't support that one bit.

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12-06-2012, 04:43 PM
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This is just odd. You're worried about injuries but suggest that you still end up kicking and having to cover it? And punts would be much further than 45 yards with no threat of getting the punt blocked. Punters consistently kick the ball 60 yards after safeties.

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12-06-2012, 04:53 PM
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Dumb, dumb, dumb, and dumb. If this actually happens.

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Whats next is Goddell going to try and take out crossing patterns.

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12-06-2012, 05:22 PM
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Chris Kluwe weighs in:

imgur.com/Ds1On

One thing's for certain: there are a lot more intelligent arguments to be made against this than the ******** flag football rhetoric everyone loves to spew. With some tweaks, it could work.

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This actually sounds like a pretty cool idea

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Terrible, just awful.

Make it take it, basically? WTF!! This ain't pick up basketball.

Kickoffs are part of the game. Guys who make a living as either a returner or Special teams ace get phased out by this too.

It'll be the National Flag Football League soon enough. Even the South Park Sarcastaball doesn't seem that far fetched and over the top anymore.

What I find hilarious is that Goodell/owners are all about player safety yet added these Thursday Night Games all year and are still pushing an 18 game schedule. They're not safety issues though, nope only kickoffs are because kickoffs don't = $$$$$. Hypocrites.

It's all a ploy to try and save their ***** in these concussions, post career quality of life lawsuits.
Well said! Don't get me wrong, I feel bad for all the oldtimers who are suffering from brain trauma issues, because back in the day we did not know much if anything at all about these issues. But in this day and age, anyone who CHOOSES to play professional sports knows the risks. I hate what obstruction calls have done to hockey & this latest idea from Goodell is just horrible.

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12-06-2012, 06:02 PM
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What I find hilarious is that Goodell/owners are all about player safety yet added these Thursday Night Games all year and are still pushing an 18 game schedule. They're not safety issues though, nope only kickoffs are because kickoffs don't = $$$$$. Hypocrites.
I don't see how Thursday Night Games really affect player safety? But the 18 game schedule is skewed. It would eliminate 2 of the pre-season games and add 2 more regular games.

BTW if you don't think the NFL is out to make profit while exploring every option to make the game safer at a minimal impact to the wallet, then I don't know why anyone would follow sports.

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I'll say this, I think it's a better idea than what we have now, which is touchbacks on 80% of kickoffs. It's stupid and a waste of time. At least this would bring some excitement back.

But as far as I'm concerned, move kickoffs back to the 25 and get returns going again. Concussions be damned. These guys are making millions of dollars. If they don't want to risk it, they can go find a normal civilian job. Why don't we outlaw QB sacks? You can get concussions from that too.

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Clicky clicky



Thought this could make for an interesting debate as hockey fans continually voice their displeasure about rule changes designed to reduce injuries. Good to know that it isn't just hockey that's looking at these types of changes - we shouldn't feel so alone anymore.
So let me get this straight. Greg Schiano, who likes to send his D at the QB on kneels is now concerned with player safety? Give me a break.

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I don't see how Thursday Night Games really affect player safety?
Less recovery time. You talk to players and some of them say they can barely get out of bed for 1-2 days after playing a game.

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So let me get this straight. Greg Schiano, who likes to send his D at the QB on kneels is now concerned with player safety? Give me a break.
Actually, Schiano never proposed that idea to Goodell. After Eric Legrand incident, he suggested during some Big East meeting as a way to decrease those types of incident. That's about two years ago.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/in...ic_legran.html


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Sounds very XFLish

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Actually, Schiano never proposed that idea to Goodell. After Eric Legrand incident, he suggested during some Big East meeting as a way to decrease those types of incident. That's about two years ago.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/in...ic_legran.html
Makes more sense. Thanks for clarifying.

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Pretty much nonsense because obviously someone could get easily hurt on the punt return or the attempted 4th and 15 conversion as well. The moment that happens the entire rationale is blown out the water and any possible "shield" against negative P.R. or lawsuits as well.

The way to avoid lawsuits in the future is to present players with a complete head injury information sheet and then have them sign legal waivers. Basically, you sign a NFL contract and you accept head injury like a soldier accepts the risk of KIA.

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BTW can we change the title? It's not necessarily accurate as it's not Goddell that floated the idea.

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Anyway, back on topic, when I read this this morning, I flat out hated it, but now that I've been thinking on it a bit, I kinda like it, it's grown on me.

And if nothing else, it'll create an explosion of random 4th & 15 plays in every ones playbook.


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Make it take it, basically? WTF!! This ain't pick up basketball.
Exactly what I thought, too, but why not go all the way? Imagine the offense/scoring (if that's another goal) if you gave a team scoring a TD a first and 10 at its own 20 right after. You'd need something different for a FG - maybe this scenario or maybe first and 10 and your own 10.

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