2012-13 Lockout Discussion Part VIII: "The 11th Hour" Edition

[Lundsanity30]

Originally Posted by BrooklynRangersFan

-Dreger

Oh grow up.

????

Thats pretty damn childish of the owners to not show up

[RGY]

Originally Posted by nevesis

http://www.tsn.ca/live/player.aspx#v=759560&i=759560

Nothing's playing.

[Lundsanity30]

Presser hasn't started yet, I'm listening now.

[RGY]

Originally Posted by Lundsanity30

????

Thats pretty damn childish of the owners to not show up

Bettman couldn't go in and face Fehr? Is he scared of him? Playing games with him? It's December 6th, stop with the shenanigans.

[RGY]

Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN
fehr and players take to the podium

edit:

Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN
Don Fehr: says players responded "comprenhesnively" and not much room left

Nick Cotsonika ‏@cotsonika
Don Fehr: Players think they have offered a clear outline to end this dispute.

Nick Cotsonika ‏@cotsonika
Don Fehr: We hope we have an agreement on pension plan, funded out of player money. Believe agreement on transition payments.

Brad Richards, Crosby, Doan, Maholtra, etc are there

[Florida Ranger]

Seems like the crap that was holding this back seems to be agreed upon. Now what is it???

[Florida Ranger]

stevezipay: More Fehr: We proposed max length of contract of eight years

[Lundsanity30]

We have an agreement on Pensions and Make Whole!!! Shouldn't that be the "elephant" of the negotiations????

[Lundsanity30]

Originally Posted by Ranger de FLA

stevezipay: More Fehr: We proposed max length of contract of eight years

compromise at 7 NHL!

[Florida Ranger]

Originally Posted by Lundsanity30

We have an agreement on Pensions and Make Whole!!! Shouldn't that be the "elephant" of the negotiations????

That's what I thought! What now??

[-31-]

Originally Posted by Ranger de FLA

stevezipay: More Fehr: We proposed max length of contract of eight years

Props for that. Split the difference. 6.5 year maximum.

[RGY]

Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN
players offered 8 yr deal with opt out after 6 yrs today

Nick Cotsonika ‏@cotsonika
Don Fehr: Remaining issues are primarily max length of player contract and variability from year to year.

Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN
says there is agreement on pension plans


Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC
We proposed max 8 year length. on variability: 7yrs or longer contract -- lowest year of contract had to be at least 25 per cent of highest

[broadwayblue]

Originally Posted by Ranger de FLA

stevezipay: More Fehr: We proposed max length of contract of eight years

That's a huge win for the owners. They should take it and close the deal.

[Florida Ranger]

Originally Posted by -31-

Props for that. Split the difference. 6.5 year maximum.

I thought that too. Player becomes a free agent half way through a season lol

[-31-]

Originally Posted by RGY

lowest year of contract had to be at least 25 per cent of highest[/B]

That part could use some work...

[BrooklynRangersFan]

Originally Posted by Lundsanity30

????

Thats pretty damn childish of the owners to not show up

It's business. Duly authorized representatives were there. Get over who gets "dissed".

Especially when for months you've been foaming at the mouth about how you want Bettman OUT of the room.

[RGY]

Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN
"we have not discussed with owners what our transition rules" will be

Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN
"We think there is a complete agreement on dollars ... "

Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN
players want 8 yr contract limit and not 5 and think they are closer, not farther apart

[broadwayblue]

Originally Posted by -31-

That part could use some work...

lol, you think? that's twice as favorable for the players as the current rules.

[nevesis]

Get this ****ing done.

[RGY]

The tone isn't so doom and gloom from Fehr right now. Listening on Siriusxm. It sounds like they have agreed on multiple fronts but still work to be done.

[-31-]

I don't think the NHL ever expected the players to agree to 5 year limits. Likewise, I don't think the PA expects the NHL to accept 8. Just posturing.

[bubba5]

owners will not accept. fehr sounds annoyed!

[RGY]

Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN
Fehr said Daly and Bob Batterman were only ones to h ear their proposal

Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN
Fehr thinks an agreement can be completed in a short term if league accepts this

Nick Cotsonika ‏@cotsonika
Don Fehr: "We will wait and see what they say and when they say it."

Tim Panaccio ‏@tpanotchCSN
says 5 yr contact limit was a MAJOR sticking point ... sounds like sides are indeed closer even though league was not happy today

[RGY]

Originally Posted by bubba5

owners will not accept. fehr sounds annoyed!

I don't know I thought he sounded even keeled.

[Florida Ranger]

Originally Posted by RGY

The tone isn't so doom and gloom from Fehr right now. Listening on Siriusxm. It sounds like they have agreed on multiple fronts but still work to be done.

I expect work that needs to be done until a CBA comes together. Hopefully tonight something can work out. Never know. They may not even be that much apart. The NHL can come with a counter tonight the PA accepts.