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12-07-2012, 02:34 AM
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Unless we trade Luongo for futures that develop beyond their projections we'll likely lose the trade...unless Luongo has some meteoric collapse or career injury (heaven forbid).


Bang on Canucker. It will take people some time to realize this, but it will happen.

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The bold is all I'm contending. With terrible packages to choose from, I run with Luongo.


A 5-10% offseason cushion is usually there for teams. This is what I was referring to. I don't think it adds pressure as it gives him more time to make a deal.
That's fair. I see your side of the argument, I just happen to be on the other side of it.

If we wait until next summer we not only lose all our leverage, we give leverage to whoever we're dealing with by utilizing that cushion. It is logical that the summer package would be considerably worse, to the point where we could be lucky to get a Brian Campbell return. If we wind up in the 5-10% cushion and Burke is the only one interested, he could offer Komisarek straight up and we would have to grin and bear it, because if we don't get cap compliant we forfeit games.

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Good thing Luongo said he's okay being here.
I have just listed some beautiful ocean front property outside of Regina. It's reasonably priced and the weather is great in January.

Look, the Canucks will move a goalie before the deadline. When they do, you don't need to say "hey, you were right". If they don't, it's a mgmt failure unless they are hoisting a Cup into the air in June.

I do not recall saying "take Bozak". In fact, i do not have a clue where you've gotten anything you've said. As is typical, you've nitpicked little things and made them the issue.

Now if TO sends us JVR and Jake Gardiner, I'll send you a cheque for $5 for every point they get in the year we get them.

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I have just listed some beautiful ocean front property outside of Regina. It's reasonably priced and the weather is great in January.

Look, the Canucks will move a goalie before the deadline. When they do, you don't need to say "hey, you were right". If they don't, it's a mgmt failure unless they are hoisting a Cup into the air in June.

I do not recall saying "take Bozak". In fact, i do not have a clue where you've gotten anything you've said. As is typical, you've nitpicked little things and made them the issue.

Now if TO sends us JVR and Jake Gardiner, I'll send you a cheque for $5 for every point they get in the year we get them.
Are you sure $5 a point is enough ?

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Are we equating the mole analogy to holding onto Luongo now? Think it though CC.


It's not "stupid" to weight value against the benefits of retaining Luongo. In a worst case scenario, Lu could be retained. Which would make the "need" part of your comment totally irrelevant.
The mole analogy is discussing NEED for god's sake. Did I wade into the remedial HF?

Prove to me that Luongos' value increases with time passing and that it helps the team to wait another season.

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That's fair. I see your side of the argument, I just happen to be on the other side of it.

If we wait until next summer we not only lose all our leverage, we give leverage to whoever we're dealing with by utilizing that cushion. It is logical that the summer package would be considerably worse, to the point where we could be lucky to get a Brian Campbell return. If we wind up in the 5-10% cushion and Burke is the only one interested, he could offer Komisarek straight up and we would have to grin and bear it, because if we don't get cap compliant we forfeit games.


Not so. Gillis still as the "out" of waiving Luongo and I have to believe one team will pick him up. CLB in particular would jump at the chance IMO.


The leverage will still be there IMO. Only now, the teams that need him might change. Burke might be fired at this point, as his job is far from assured. Basically, the landscape will change and with it the opportunities.

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Are you sure $5 a point is enough ?
Guess I should be clear, NHL points.

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Not so. Gillis still as the "out" of waiving Luongo and I have to believe one team will pick him up. CLB in particular would jump at the chance IMO.
With Lu's value there'd never be a need to waive such a marketable asset.

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The mole analogy is discussing NEED for god's sake. Did I wade into the remedial HF?

Prove to me that Luongos' value increases with time passing and that it helps the team to wait another season.


Haha. Maybe your arguments are putrid, perhaps that's why you are getting frustrated?


The issue about helping the team depends on the return. I'm not advocating waiting another season, I'm saying it could happen as a possibility. There is a difference in those two stances. But I'm sure you knew that.

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