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12-06-2012, 03:17 PM
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Manning can tackle ,, Unlike Wright who misses half the time

Also Manning is much better vs Run then anyone we have on roster at safety currently

And our current safeties are good in coverage? Harris was better and was less likely to be in wrong place at wrong time

As for Manning in SB ,, He was rookie and is far down on list of who to blame for SB loss (Rex and Turner #1 and #2)

Simple reality is that Bears organization refused to pay Manning when he finally developed into S they wanted (Foolish) and the coaches never liked Harris

Remember it was Lovie who wanted Adam Archuleta playing safety for Bears
What kind of insane revisionist history is this? Honestly, how old were you in 05 and 06?

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12-06-2012, 05:52 PM
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Manning not knowing the correct coverage in the Super Bowl, which led to a Colts 50+ yard TD, is dismissed because he was a rookie. After some experience, Manning later DEVELOPED into a quality safety.

But McClellin is a bust with no room to improve, cut him now.

Also note that Manning went to BCS powerhouse Abilene Christian.

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12-06-2012, 05:54 PM
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Manning not knowing the correct coverage in the Super Bowl, which led to a Colts 50+ yard TD, is dismissed because he was a rookie.

But McClellin is a bust, cut him now.
Manning was playing a new position (He was CB in college) and he was not 19th overall pick like Shea

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12-06-2012, 06:02 PM
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Lets be honest

This franchise hasn't had a great safety duo since Carrier/Gayle were back there when I was a kid

I remember the Bears back end of D then

FS - Carrier
S - Gayle
CB's - Woolford and Stinson

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12-06-2012, 06:03 PM
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Manning was playing a new position (He was CB in college) and he was not 19th overall pick like Shea
So that gives him a pass to blow a simple thing such as knowing cover 1 or cover 2 in the Super Bowl? You pick on McClellin for missing tackle on Tate TD even though four other guys missed him.

Also McClellin is adjusting to being a full time, hand in the ground pass rusher. Manning was a high 2nd round pick, it's not like he was some 6th rounder.

I went back and edited my previous post, but it's amazing that a guy from Boise State is a bust after 10 games, but a guy from Abilene Christian was given time to develop and turned into quality safety.

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12-06-2012, 06:31 PM
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Manning was also a good kick returner and played nickel for awhile. and irc on the sb play you're talking about, Tillman or vasher let the receiver run free down the sideline and Manning was late getting over.

and safety/db is a harder position to learn than pass rushing de. and Manning got moved around from safety to nickel back to bench, etc...and wasn't a first round pick

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12-06-2012, 06:43 PM
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Yup, Illini is right. Moore trashed Cutler and insulted Lovie when they met about it. He won't play unless the Bears have no choice.
That's a good point. I do remember when Moore kept opening his mouth early in the year about Cutler and Cutler (on his radio) show put things as nicely as he could saying "DJ says lots of things" and left it at that. I thought he was OK as a Nickel player, but sounds like his locker room / mouth may have gotten him in trouble here.

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12-06-2012, 08:59 PM
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Lets be honest

This franchise hasn't had a great safety duo since Carrier/Gayle were back there when I was a kid

I remember the Bears back end of D then

FS - Carrier
S - Gayle
CB's - Woolford and Stinson
Nope, it was Fencik and whoever played with him. I'm kidding but I just read something that Fencik still holds the record for most interceptions on the team. Didn't know that.

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12-07-2012, 01:34 PM
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Did you guys see this? Lol.

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The Minnesota Vikings' season will be on the line Sunday against the Chicago Bears. As such, linebacker Chad Greenway has asked fans to get "super-duper drunk" in order to boost the Vikings' home-field advantage at the Metrodome.

"We have to play accordingly and our fans have to show up accordingly, which we know they will. Hopefully, they're super-duper drunk. ... So drink liquor, not beer," he said after Minnesota's loss to Green Bay last Sunday, according to the Star Tribune.

"Yeah, I would say morning drinking," Greenway said, according to the newspaper. "Why not? You could pull an all-nighter. Then you'd have the drunk, tired guys who will really be obnoxious."
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story...er-duper-drunk

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12-07-2012, 01:36 PM
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Jennings, Bennet, Urlacher out.

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Jennings, Bennet, Urlacher out.
Any news on Jeffrey?

Bears didn't sign any WR's

Cant possibly go into a game with Marshall , Weems and Sanchenbacher at WR and expect to win

God damn what a horrid selection of receivers for Cutler to Target outside of Marshall if that is case

Weems + Sanzenbacher at #2 and #3 WR
Davis + Spaeth at TE
Rodriguez at FB or TE

Cutler might throw 20+ passes at Marshall on Sunday

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Any news on Jeffrey?

Bears didn't sign any WR's

Cant possibly go into a game with Marshall , Weems and Sanchenbacher at WR and expect to win
Everyone else will play

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What the hell?


That's hilarious.

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Everyone else will play
Hester?

I thought last report was he hadn't yet been cleared or practiced this week

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Lovie just said that Hester and Jeffrey will be available Sunday.

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12-07-2012, 01:50 PM
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Lovie just said that Hester and Jeffrey will be available Sunday.
Ok

So Bears have 2 WR's (Marshall + Jeffrey) and 2 return men pretending to be WR's (Hester + Weems) and no TE's

Still a terrible situation

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12-07-2012, 01:54 PM
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Eifert, Fauria or Ertz. Pick one, Emery.

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Eifert, Fauria or Ertz. Pick one, Emery.
Ertz for me. I think he'll be available late 2nd/early 3rd.

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Eifert, Fauria or Ertz. Pick one, Emery.
Honestly at this point I wouldn't mind if Bears moved down in draft

If a team gets 2 2nd rounders ,, Bears should trade down for them

3 2nd round picks could be very good for Bears this year in draft addressing a variety of areas

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Ertz for me. I think he'll be available late 2nd/early 3rd.
I think it's situational. If there's an OT, Warmack, or a ILB available where we're picking, take them. If not, Eifert is probably BPA and the best fit.

Eifert is the only one who can really block, so keep that in mind.

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Honestly at this point I wouldn't mind if Bears moved down in draft

If a team gets 2 2nd rounders ,, Bears should trade down for them

3 2nd round picks could be very good for Bears this year in draft addressing a variety of areas
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I think it's situational. If there's an OT, Warmack, or a ILB available where we're picking, take them. If not, Eifert is probably BPA and the best fit.

Eifert is the only one who can really block, so keep that in mind.
My hope is one of the teams at the top of the draft, like KC or JAC for example, wants to trade back into the bottom of the 1st round. That way Bears can draft a lineman high 2nd, like Cooper from UNC, a linebacker like Green from Rutgers late 2nd, and Ertz early 3rd. That's my pipe dream.

Depends on who's available when the Bears pick in the 1st round though, like MB said.

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12-07-2012, 02:00 PM
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Cincy would be good trade partner for Bears and would likely be more willing to look to move back into 1st round to continue to stock up for AFC North battles going forward

They have 2 picks in 2nd round (There own + Oaklands). Should end up with 1 high 2nd and 1 low 2nd

Bears moving down 8-10 spots to grab those picks isn't bad at all (Raiders look destined to finish bottom 5 in NFL thus should draft 33-38 in round 2)

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I think Arthur Brown out of K-State would be a great fit inside with a 3rd round pick.

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12-07-2012, 02:08 PM
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Cincy would be good trade partner for Bears and would likely be more willing to look to move back into 1st round to continue to stock up for AFC North battles going forward

They have 2 picks in 2nd round (There own + Oaklands). Should end up with 1 high 2nd and 1 low 2nd

Bears moving down 8-10 spots to grab those picks isn't bad at all (Raiders look destined to finish bottom 5 in NFL thus should draft 33-38 in round 2)
Agree completely. The lack of a 3rd round pick this year coupled with all the holes the Bears have make trading down a great option. Would love having 3 2nd round picks.

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I think Arthur Brown out of K-State would be a great fit inside with a 3rd round pick.
We don't have a 3rd round pick

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