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12-07-2012, 03:59 PM
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Ah, so it is state-owned. Nice find...

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What is different if russian state company sponsors sport and if the same is doing lets say Deutsche Bank?

http://espn.go.com/golf/story/_/id/8...-extended-2016

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Arena 1/3 to 1/2 nhl size
Around half less games
Avg ticket price, not sure maybe 1/4 to 1/2 less then nhl
Not much tv revenue, merchandising

So basically 8x less revenue at the most of the NHL
But avg payroll 1/3 less, and the NHL isn't in the greatest of shape

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Arena 1/3 to 1/2 nhl size
Around half less games
Avg ticket price, not sure maybe 1/4 to 1/2 less then nhl
Not much tv revenue, merchandising

So basically 8x less revenue at the most of the NHL
But avg payroll 1/3 less, and the NHL isn't in the greatest of shape
The current shape of NHL has nothing to do with the current payroll.

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Do you happen to know who owns Dinamo Minsk? Is it state-owned?
Looks like state-owned with plenty of other sponsors and partners including Belaruskali and Keramin (large companies): http://hcdinamo.by/partnership/founders

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Was not there talks about Gazprombank? Gazpromneft?
Sverdlovsk region and Ekaterinburg are nothing special for these companies so their sponsoring of Avtomobilist is rather "compulsory" than "voluntary".

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Vladivostok could join in 2013/14. Asian division in China, S.Korea, Japan is planning.

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Vladivostok could join in 2013/14. Asian division in China, S.Korea, Japan is planning.
They better get an Asian division soon because having all those Western teams travel to Khabarovsk and Vladivostok would be brutal

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If you believe what you read, not very good. Organized crime money, Gas and Government money. The KHL has a very poor economical model that is kept going by a billionaire who loves Russian hockey and a Government who wants to show that the NHL can be challenged.

Give the league 10 years or so and it will probably finds its legs with a real economical system.
Didn't Putin offer Datsyuk/Malkin/Kovalchuk/Ovechkin $30M each to stay in Russia after the lockout?

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What is different if russian state company sponsors sport and if the same is doing lets say Deutsche Bank?

http://espn.go.com/golf/story/_/id/8...-extended-2016
One suggests a sustainable business model that is underpinned by private sponsorship while the other suggests a perhaps unsustainable model backed by the foolish governmental use of taxpayer dollars. True free market economies encourage private spending, not public.

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One suggests a sustainable business model that is underpinned by private sponsorship while the other suggests a perhaps unsustainable model backed by the foolish governmental use of taxpayer dollars. True free market economies encourage private spending, not public.
True free market economies have also never existed and will never exist.

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Maybe you heard. Russia and Ukraine wants to create common soccer league. Gazprom is one of founders. They want to invest one billion USD in 1st year of project. Champion would get 92 millions USD as prize money, other clubs would get money as well. That is crazy, I dont know how much UEFA Champions League pays but russian media claims it is less.

Now imagine that KHL would find sponsors, in China ect, which would invest at least 0,5 billion per year. Is it comparable with NHL?

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Didn't Putin offer Datsyuk/Malkin/Kovalchuk/Ovechkin $30M each to stay in Russia after the lockout?
That was an unsubstantiated rumour published by Larry Brooks. There was no other evidence of this being remotely true.

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Not viable currently. Arenas too small. Fans arent willing to pay higher prices. Low TV $. Mega rich owners who are taking a loss for various reasons. I could see down the road, maybe 10+ yrs that this might change as more money trickles down to fans and they can pay for a better product.
Sounds the same as about 1/3 of the current NHL teams.

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Why would a team no one watches get a better TV deal (I realize this comes from the league)? Would KHL/Whatever european league really want to support a team that might fill 10% of its arena?
It would take way too long for a new team to become profitable, we're talking 20 years long, not 1 or 2 years.

I actually don't think a team like that would "sway people away", actually I'm 99% sure the team would be a laughingstock and people would spit on its club sign.

Maybe if that team would start in a city that has had no previous big hockey club, but the only 3 cities which could possibly host something like that, already has teams.
oh hot damn. take note khl expansionists, swedes gon' be mad.

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