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Ranking NHL teams by position depth- centre- #1

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Anaheim-Getzlaf,Koivo,Cogliano,Bonino 0 0%
Boston-Krejci,Bergeron,Kelly,Campbell 2 2.06%
Buffalo-Hodgson,Ott,Leino,Adam 0 0%
Calgary-Cervenka,Cammalleri,Backlund,Jones 0 0%
Carolina-Staal,Jokinen,Brent,Wallace 0 0%
Chicago-Toews,Kruger,Bolland,Bickell 0 0%
Columbus-Dubinsky,Brassard,Anisimov,Letestu 0 0%
Colorado-Duchene,Stastny,O'Reilly,Mitchell 2 2.06%
Dallas-Benn,Roy,Eakin,Fiddler 0 0%
Detroit-Datsyuk,Filppula,Helm,Emmerton 1 1.03%
Edmonton-RNH,Horcoff,Gagner,Belanger 0 0%
Florida-Weiss,Huberdeau,Matthias,Santorelli 0 0%
LA-Kopitar,Richards,Stoll,Fraser 5 5.15%
Minnesota-Koivu,Cullen,Brodziak,Konopka 0 0%
Montreal-Plekanic,Desharnais,Eller,Gomez 1 1.03%
Nashville-Legwand,Fisher,Gausted,Spaling 0 0%
New Jersey-Zajac,Henrique,Josefson,Carter 1 1.03%
NYI-Tavares,Nielsen,Bailey,Reasoner 1 1.03%
NYR-Richards,Stepan,Boyle,Halpern 1 1.03%
Ottawa-Spezza,Turris,Smith,O'Brien 1 1.03%
Philadelphia-Giroux,Briere,Couturier,Talbot 3 3.09%
Phoenix-Vermette,Hanzal,Gordon,Chipchura 0 0%
Pittsburgh-Croby,Malkin,Sutter,Vitale 74 76.29%
San Jose-Thornton,Couture,Handzus,Desjardins 1 1.03%
St. Louis-Backes,Berglund,Sobotka,Nichol 0 0%
Tampa Bay-Stamkos,Lecavalier,Thompson,Hall 1 1.03%
Toronto-Bozak,Grabovski,Connolly,McClement 0 0%
Vancouver-Sedin,Kesler,Malhotra,Lapierre 2 2.06%
Washington-Backstrom,Ribeiro,Johansson,Perreault 1 1.03%
Winnipeg-Jokinen,Little,Antropov,Burmistrov 0 0%
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12-08-2012, 02:38 AM
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Ranking NHL teams by position depth- centre- #1

Who has the best depth at centre?

Also, correct me for any mistakes I make in the poll, I got these of a list on the internet because I figured that would be better then memory, I will fix mistakes in the next poll

Also prospects don't count, we are talking about now


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12-08-2012, 02:40 AM
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I'll say Pittsburgh,

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Los Angeles. Kopitar, Carter, Richards, Stoll, Lewis, Fraser and Richardson were centers across our four lines. When Pitt had Staal, the sheer quality of that top three made them a clear #1 before but not anymore.

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Los Angeles. Kopitar, Carter, Richards, Stoll, Lewis, Fraser and Richardson were centers across our four lines.
I think he's going by at the start of the season, not just who can play C. I don't think Carter or Richards will be a 3rd or 4th line center at the season opener. Otherwise, the Sharks would have Marleau and Pavelski on the list too.

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Los Angeles. Kopitar, Carter, Richards, Stoll, Lewis, Fraser and Richardson were centers across our four lines. When Pitt had Staal, the sheer quality of that top three made them a clear #1 before but not anymore.
If either Kopi or Richards get injured, then Carter might get some ice time as a center, but it doesn't look like he'll ever be a full time center.


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I think he's going by at the start of the season, not just who can play C. I don't think Carter or Richards will be a 3rd or 4th line center at the season opener. Otherwise, the Sharks would have Marleau and Pavelski on the list too.
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I think he's going by at the start of the season, not just who can play C. I don't think Carter or Richards will be a 3rd or 4th line center at the season opener. Otherwise, the Sharks would have Marleau and Pavelski on the list too.
Who should I take out?

Who are expected to be the top 4 centres?

Thanks for the help

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You are wrong with New Jersey: For the moment centers are Elias-Zajac-Henrique-Josefson. Elias is hands down a top 10 center in the league, both Zajac and Henrique might take 1st line minutes without a problem and Jacob Josefson is for now, a 21 years old 3rd line center that keeps improving, he could turn in a legit 2nd line center in the next 2 years.

They are all very good, reliable 2-way players.


There's so much depth at centre for the Devils that certainly Elias and/or Henrique will be moved to wings to give everyone the minutes he deserves. Both Henrique and Elias are versatile enough to play efficiently any forward position also.

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wouldn't the canes be -Staal and Staal?

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Who should I take out?

Who are expected to be the top 4 centres?

Thanks for the help
Depends on your criteria; is it best center depth, or best 1st-4th line Centers? Didn't look at them all, but if the latter, I think your list is fine. Carolina would probably be Staal-Stall though.

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You are wrong with New Jersey: For the moment centers are Elias-Zajac-Henrique-Josefson. Elias is hands down a top 10 center in the league, both Zajac and Henrique might take 1st line minutes without a problem and Jacob Josefson is for now, a 21 years old 3rd line center that keeps improving, he could turn in a legit 2nd line center in the next 2 years.

They are all very good reliable, solid 2 way players.


There's so much depth at centre for the Devils that certainly Elias and/or Henrique will be moved to wings. Both are versatile enough to play efficiently there also.
Crosby, Malkin, Datsyuk, Toews, Kopitar, Backstrom, Giroux, Spezza, Sedin, Tavares. No he isnt

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Depends on your criteria; is it best center depth, or best 1st-4th line Centers? Didn't look at them all, but if the latter, I think your list is fine. Carolina would probably be Staal-Stall though.

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You are wrong with New Jersey: For the moment centers are Elias-Zajac-Henrique-Josefson. Elias is hands down a top 10 center in the league, both Zajac and Henrique might take 1st line minutes without a problem and Jacob Josefson is for now, a 21 years old 3rd line center that keeps improving, he could turn in a legit 2nd line center in the next 2 years.

They are all very good reliable 2-way players.


There's so much depth at centre for the Devils that certainly Elias and/or Henrique will be moved to wings to give everyone the minutes he deserves. Both Henrique and Elias are versatile enough to play efficiently any forward position also.
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wouldn't the canes be -Staal and Staal?
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the Wings centers are Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Helm-Abdelkader

anyways voted for Pittsburgh

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wouldn't the canes be -Staal and Staal?
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...-on-same-line/

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Crosby, Malkin, Datsyuk, Toews, Kopitar, Backstrom, Giroux, Spezza, Sedin, Tavares. No he isnt
Top 10 NHL scoring,
Quality of competition over +1.000 (shutdown role),
51% offensive zone start with 51% offensive zone finish.
ES, PP, PK consistent points producer.

Half of your guys are equivalent points producers to Elias but they weren't close to face the competition Elias faced. And they weren't constantly paired with Petr Sykora neither.

Elias is a top 10 center in the league.

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Top 10 NHL scoring,
Quality of competition over +1.000 (shutdown role),
51% offensive zone start with 51% offensive zone finish.
ES, PP, PK consistent points producer.

Half of your guys are equivalent points producers to Elias but they weren't close to face the competition Elias faced. And they weren't constantly paired with Petr Sykora neither.

Elias is a top 10 center in the league.

Sure he's underrated but top-10 center? nope.

I forgot Stamkos on that list too.

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Sure he's underrated but top-10 center? nope.

I forgot Stamkos on that list too.
Nope is not an argument. Malkin, Stamkos, Giroux are too far ahead offensively, no doubt. But now, try to find a shutdown center close to a 1 PPG ?

Elias is right in the mix with the likes of Toews, Datsyuk and Kopitar. Moreover everybody tend to forget here that Toews was getting an insane 64.7%, 62.1% and 58.8% offensive zone starts for the last 3 seasons. I've got nothing against Toews and god knows he's a capable 2-way center. But getting that much offensive zone starts is quite helpful to pad your total points and Corsi numbers.

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This really should be unanimous shouldn't it?

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Elias is right in the mix with the likes of Toews, Datsyuk and Kopitar. Moreover everybody tend to forget here that Toews was getting an insane 64.7%, 62.1% and 58.8% offensive zone starts for the last 3 seasons. I've got nothing against Toews and god knows he's a capable 2-way center. But getting that much offensive zone starts is quite helpful to pad your total points and Corsi numbers.
Should include Thornton in the mix too.

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For the Caps, Laich and Beagle should be in for Johansson and Perreault.

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Top 10 NHL scoring,
Quality of competition over +1.000 (shutdown role),
51% offensive zone start with 51% offensive zone finish.
ES, PP, PK consistent points producer.

Half of your guys are equivalent points producers to Elias but they weren't close to face the competition Elias faced. And they weren't constantly paired with Petr Sykora neither.

Elias is a top 10 center in the league.
Most underrated player of all time

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Nope is not an argument. Malkin, Stamkos, Giroux are too far ahead offensively, no doubt. But now, try to find a shutdown center close to a 1 PPG ?

Elias is right in the mix with the likes of Toews, Datsyuk and Kopitar. Moreover everybody tend to forget here that Toews was getting an insane 64.7%, 62.1% and 58.8% offensive zone starts for the last 3 seasons. I've got nothing against Toews and god knows he's a capable 2-way center. But getting that much offensive zone starts is quite helpful to pad your total points and Corsi numbers.
So you're suggesting he's closer to the top 5 centers in the league?

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So you're suggesting he's closer to the top 5 centers in the league?

Look, we're not here to win an argument. I made my point to attest that Elias is a top 10 center in the league. If you want to prove me wrong, fair enough. But demonstrate it. And honestly, I'm not one manichaeist rigid mofo. Elias could be listed #5 or #14 center in the NHL that I wouldn't care, unless you don't get the main point:

Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos and Giroux are far apart, we've got this. Otherwise, it's too much of a close call between all of those Toews, Datsyuk, Kops, Thornton guys.
Ending 10th in NHL scoring while taking defensive assignment, Elias during the 2011-2012 season, was certainly one of the 10 best centers in the league, seriously with Backstrom or Toews injured, it's not even debatable.
On the other hand, maybe next year, it will be Backstrom or Tavares' turn to have a stellar season. The point is that all these centers listed are top 10 center material.

And yes, I, personally and definitely include Elias with them.

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Pittsburgh easily.

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Pittsburgh because they have the two best players in the league as their top two Cs and Sutter is definitely near the top of the list when it comes to 3Cs.

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Still the Penguins, and unless Crosby or Malkin leaves, it'll be the Penguins for a good while.

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