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If you could start an NHL team with any winger, who would it be?

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12-08-2012, 03:33 AM
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If I had to pick a winger first, I usually find wingers last after D, centermen and goalie, and it would be a starting franchise, I'd pick Taylor Hall. Then I'd wonder for 10 years if I should maybe have taken Landeskog instead.

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12-08-2012, 09:37 AM
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Ovechkin, no question. Putting aside his incredible career to date, he's having a great season in the KHL right now.

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12-08-2012, 10:01 AM
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Why is Landeskog's name even being mentioned in this thread?
If you could start and NHL team with any winger, who would it be?

Landeskog is not only a young forward who's already terrific, but he's a fantastic leader. He's captain at 19 years old. That's worth a lot of points.

I'd probably take the risk with Ovi. Even though he's been pretty invisible lately, if he's on his game, you've got a very strong argument for the best in the league.

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12-08-2012, 10:34 AM
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To win now? Kovalchuk or Ovechkin.

To build a winner long-term? That's when Landeskog comes into the mix. I don't know which I'd pick out of the three then.

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12-08-2012, 10:41 AM
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Well Ovechkin is outperforming Kovalchuk in the KHL.

Kovy has 32 pts in 26 games and is a +10.

Ovechkin has 30 pts in 24 games and is a +10.

How is OV outperforming IK?

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12-08-2012, 10:44 AM
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For those that pick Parise.... The guy has energy and heart... but can't shoot the puck worth a damn from beyond the slot and is quite the magician in the playoffs (as in he makes himself disappear).

He got outscored and outperformed by a Kovalchuk that couldn't feel his back the whole playoffs and played with a herniated disc.

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12-08-2012, 10:46 AM
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Perry, Nash or Kessel.
Columbus tried to build around nash...look what happened. He's easily one of the top 10 most overrated players on HF

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12-08-2012, 10:50 AM
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Taylor Hall.

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12-08-2012, 11:02 AM
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Radulov if he stayed in the NHL. Since he's not there then probably Bobby Ryan or Kovalchuk

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12-08-2012, 12:29 PM
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Best hands in NHL = Pavel Datsyuk

Even if he currently isn't in the NHL
Kane=Better and faster hands

Datsyuk=Better imagination and range (likely because he's got 3-4inches on him and a wider wingspan)

Both are awesome, but if Datsyuk had Patrick Kane's hands and hand speed at his size, Datsyuk would be a 110pts player repeatedly. Intelligence is Datsyuk's best attribute.

In hindsight, I think this poll has to be ovechkin, just so much potential that could be harnessed. Kovalchuk is a 1a for me.

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12-08-2012, 01:52 PM
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Radulov if he stayed in the NHL. Since he's not there then probably Bobby Ryan or Kovalchuk
You'd build around a guy with that personality and attitude? That's another thing that makes me curious about everyone who said Ovi. Who's the real leader in that locker room? He isn't leading by example and I seriously doubt he's leading in the locker room.

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12-08-2012, 02:04 PM
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We shouldn't put too much stock into aging, especially with a sport like hockey. Marian Hossa is only 33. He could play at an elite level for 3 or 4 years again and that wouldn't be surprising.

Going with Hossa definitely
Landeskog looks very promising
Kovalchuk improving his all-around game

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12-08-2012, 02:08 PM
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Kovalchuk.

Thought process. Parise is great, but he's not a guy that you can rely on for scoring. He needs to get in on the cycle and get to the net kind of guy. If Hossa was the same age as Kovalchuk, or close to him, I would've picked Hossa.

Really it came down to Ovechkin or Kovalchuk, Kovalchuk has transformed his game and his really improving defensively.

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12-08-2012, 02:11 PM
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Including age...

Ovechkin
Kovalchuk
Hall
Seguin
Parise
Landeskog
Yakupov
Kane
Kessel
Eberle

I'm probably forgetting a couple guys

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12-08-2012, 02:13 PM
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Wanna know who HF thought was better when Parise was healthy?

Like I said, recovering from injuries, will he be as good as he was before? still remains to be seen.

But seasons of 45,38 goals and 94,82 points while having 5 30+goal seasons in his first 6 seasons, remind you of anyone else we're talking about? When he was healthy he was putting Kovalchuk like numbers out there while being an absolute stud defensively.

And like I as said, St.louis and Hossa are getting up their with age, but both could easily still put up 80+ point seasons while being better defensively then hossa. However this is a who would you build around and Kovy is just as good and younger so it's easily him.
As a person who watched Parise for a while, Parise's offensive skills are seriously overrated. He doesn't have a good shot and his passing is okay. Parise excels within ten feet of the net. His hands are outstanding, his hand-eye coordination for deflections is great, and his hockey sense is outstanding. You can't expect him to take a slap shot and beat a goalie like Kovalchuk, or snipe a puck past a guy. You can expect him to make nifty, quick moves to fake out a goalie, put in rebounds and have a lot of deflections.

If I was building a team, Kovalchuk is a guy that can play with almost anyone. Parise needs the hard-working cycle forwards to play with.

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12-08-2012, 04:59 PM
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Kovy has 32 pts in 26 games and is a +10.

Ovechkin has 30 pts in 24 games and is a +10.

How is OV outperforming IK?
If you'd kept the rest of the post you're quoting, you'd have your answer. SKA is an offense first team, pretty sure they're leading the league in scoring. Dynamo is defense first. Besides Ovie and Backstrom (and Leo Komarov, who has 6 gp), no one else is even at 0.6 ppg. SKA has eight players over 0.6 ppg, and that's not counting Kovalchuk. In that context, Ovie's numbers are clearly better than Kovy's.

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If you'd kept the rest of the post you're quoting, you'd have your answer. SKA is an offense first team, pretty sure they're leading the league in scoring. Dynamo is defense first. Besides Ovie and Backstrom (and Leo Komarov, who has 6 gp), no one else is even at 0.6 ppg. SKA has eight players over 0.6 ppg, and that's not counting Kovalchuk. In that context, Ovie's numbers are clearly better than Kovy's.
Kovalchuk is very streaky so he will go on a 5 game streak having like 2, 3 points a game soon.

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One sure thing, Radulov beats the * out both of them

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If I'm running an offensive-minded team, Ovechkin.
If I'm running a defensive-minded team, Parise.

Someone tell me if Steven Stamkos plays wing with Lecavalier or not. I thought he was a winger but Yahoo lists him as a center.
Stamkos plays center. Lecavalier is Tampa's 2nd line center. FWIW though, when they both play together Vinny plays center and Stammer plays wing. That isn't all that often though.

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I would love to see someone try to make an actual, fact based argument for taking Perry over Ovechkin. Seriously.

Of all the players mentioned in this thread, you choose only to question Perry being included?

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