Dumoulin is doing extremely well right now. Morrow isn't. Dumoulin came from a similar system. Morrow didn't. I'd much rather think that Morrow is only struggling due to a transitional issue than Dumoulin being better than him. Well, to be fair, Despres was bad for most of the season, and is only now playing well (4 G, 1 A in last 6 games), so maybe we shouldn't look into the AHL much for how a player is doing. Schultz has more points than Eberle, but Eberle is a ton better than he is.
my point is just that the development and success of one player has pretty much nothing to do with the development or success of another player. Its possible to be optimistic about Dumoulin without being pessimistic about Morrow. I expect good things from both.
Maguire posted his second straight shut-out, stopping 28 in a 1-0 win over Maine.
I watched parts of the first 2 periods and BU pretty much controlled play throughout and didn't allow many big-time scoring chances. Still, Maguire didn't **** it up and that's half the battle.
After 5 games, he's at 2.00 GAA & .930 save%. That horrible first start has obscured how well he's played. Maguire practically gave up half of his goals allowed this season in his first 30 minutes. Don't have much to say on him in-depth since I had the game on in the background. He did seem to have good rebound control since I can't remember him giving up many.
The other BU goalie has played about double the amount of games to Maguire and has also been really good and has generally received the starts against better competition so far. Still, Maguire has two straight shut-outs and has allowed only 5 goals in his last 4 starts so I wouldn't be too surprised to see him get a little heavier workload.
Maguire posted his second straight shut-out, stopping 28 in a 1-0 win over Maine.
I watched parts of the first 2 periods and BU pretty much controlled play throughout and didn't allow many big-time scoring chances. Still, Maguire didn't **** it up and that's half the battle.
After 5 games, he's at 2.00 GAA & .930 save%. That horrible first start has obscured how well he's played. Maguire practically gave up half of his goals allowed this season in his first 30 minutes. Don't have much to say on him in-depth since I had the game on in the background. He did seem to have good rebound control since I can't remember him giving up many.
The other BU goalie has played about double the amount of games to Maguire and has also been really good and has generally received the starts against better competition so far. Still, Maguire has two straight shut-outs and has allowed only 5 goals in his last 4 starts so I wouldn't be too surprised to see him get a little heavier workload.
Yeah, hes bound to get more starts. Took some time tho after he failed in his 1st start and the other goalie, O´Connor took the opportunity to get the No.1 job. I would expect them to get 50/50 starts for a while at least.
Scott Wilson picked up an assist in a 2-0 win for the River Hawks. Bryan Rust picked up an assist in a 5-1 win for Notre Dame, already 2 points up on his previous year point total. Teddy Blueger picked up an assist in 3-0 victory over Alaska Anchorage. Ben Hanowski also picked up an assist when his St Cloud State beat Josh Archibald's Nebraska Omaha 2-1, Archibald was held pointless but Pens camp invite Andrej Sustr picked up a SH assist who is having a productive year.
Dumoulin is doing extremely well right now. Morrow isn't. Dumoulin came from a similar system. Morrow didn't. I'd much rather think that Morrow is only struggling due to a transitional issue than Dumoulin being better than him. Well, to be fair, Despres was bad for most of the season, and is only now playing well (4 G, 1 A in last 6 games), so maybe we shouldn't look into the AHL much for how a player is doing. Schultz has more points than Eberle, but Eberle is a ton better than he is.
Making broad, sweeping judgements on AHL rookies based on their first 20 games is always premature. Especially when one of them is two years older and familiar with the system.
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Where did you get those measurements? The OHL site lists him as 6'1, and most sites generally list him either as 6'0 or 6'1.
But in general, I agree that he's not really small or anything. Guys like Ryan Suter, Drew Doughty, etc. are all around that height, and I don't think they've ever been seen as too small or anything.
"The 6-foot-2, 205-pound Harrington is in his first year as team captain for the London Knights – who own the best record in the Ontario Hockey League (OHL) and are riding a 15-game winning streak. Harrington has notched eight points (1G-7A) and ranks second among team blueliners with a plus-10 rating in 30 games."
I think the issue of the Pens needing a winger is severely over-exaggerated. Bennett looks like the real deal, and Tangradi looks to be turning his career around. Remember, we still have Neal long-term, Kunitz, and Dupuis, so that takes up 3 winger spots. One of the few positives from this lockout is that it gives Bennett specifically, and to an extent Tangradi, time to grow in order to become Sid's winger. If Bennett continues his strong play, it wouldn't surprise me in the least to see him along Crosby and Dupuis. I'd like to see Tangradi there, but the Pens staff hates him, so I don't think they would put him there.
Making broad, sweeping judgements on AHL rookies based on their first 20 games is always premature. Especially when one of them is two years older and familiar with the system.
"The 6-foot-2, 205-pound Harrington is in his first year as team captain for the London Knights – who own the best record in the Ontario Hockey League (OHL) and are riding a 15-game winning streak. Harrington has notched eight points (1G-7A) and ranks second among team blueliners with a plus-10 rating in 30 games."
Making broad, sweeping judgements on AHL rookies based on their first 20 games is always premature. Especially when one of them is two years older and familiar with the system.
"The 6-foot-2, 205-pound Harrington is in his first year as team captain for the London Knights – who own the best record in the Ontario Hockey League (OHL) and are riding a 15-game winning streak. Harrington has notched eight points (1G-7A) and ranks second among team blueliners with a plus-10 rating in 30 games."
Posters just become size queens when it comes to shutdown defense prospects, for some reason.
Ya, like I said, make him 6'4 and 220, attach a first round pick to him, and people would be drolling all over him, calling him THE best shutdown prospect in all of hockey.
A guy like Scuds, is 6 foot and he has been a lynchpin on two SC teams. The last thing I would call Harrington is small or undersized. He is actually above the height and weight of many top tiered NHL blueliners.
It's crazy how far along he is at this age and you can see the vast differences between him and Maatta, defensively.
I like your terminology. He's getting old, he isn't the same Orpik that was dishing out free candy to the Wings. I can understand why, playing like that for that long really takes a toll on your body. Come to think of it, the team in a whole was terrible defensively last year. They dropped from like 3rd in GA to like 15th.
Ya, like I said, make him 6'4 and 220, attach a first round pick to him, and people would be drolling all over him, calling him THE best shutdown prospect in all of hockey.
A guy like Scuds, is 6 foot and he has been a lynchpin on two SC teams. The last thing I would call Harrington is small or undersized. He is actually above the height and weight of many top tiered NHL blueliners.
It's crazy how far along he is at this age and you can see the vast differences between him and Maatta, defensively.
He's the smartest defense prospect I've seen in a while. Probably since Marc Staal.
I'm excited to see Harrington in the AHL, more than any other prospect I could remember. I think he's been probably playing at a level that he's above for 2 seasons now.
What I love about Harrington is that he's been a strong and steady defensive force on every team he's been on, and he's played an absolute **** ton of hockey over the last 2 years. That shows he can be a guy who can play 25+ mins a night, and keep his level of play at a constant level.
I'm excited to see Harrington in the AHL, more than any other prospect I could remember. I think he's been probably playing at a level that he's above for 2 seasons now.
What I love about Harrington is that he's been a strong and steady defensive force on every team he's been on, and he's played an absolute **** ton of hockey over the last 2 years. That shows he can be a guy who can play 25+ mins a night, and keep his level of play at a constant level.
For sure. He's my favourite prospect in hockey for all the reasons you mention (plus the kid's character).
All the times I've watched Harrington, I still can't get a feel for his offensive game.
He picks his spots and will pinch at the right time, but he isn't a puck rusher. He doesn't get major PP minutes, but when he is on the PP, nothing sticks out. He doesn't do anything spectacular with the puck on his stick, which is probably why he gets knocked by people who equate flash to quality.
I don't think he will be a black hole offensively like Scuds or a point producer like Letang, but I can't even find a comfortable projection for what he will do offensively.
I think the Pens and Ducks are good trading partners. They have a surplus of wing prospects, and a shortage of D prospects. We are the opposite. Who knows, maybe we could do a Pouliot for Etem swap. Both teams would benefit, but I think the Pens would win that one. Ducks already have Fowler as a top-PP guy, I don't know if they would want Pouliot.
And if I remember correctly, Harrington was a 1st round prospect in the preliminary rankings, if I remember correctly. He dropped because of a poor season.
All the times I've watched Harrington, I still can't get a feel for his offensive game.
He picks his spots and will pinch at the right time, but he isn't a puck rusher. He doesn't get major PP minutes, but when he is on the PP, nothing sticks out. He doesn't do anything spectacular with the puck on his stick, which is probably why he gets knocked by people who equate flash to quality.
I don't think he will be a black hole offensively like Scuds or a point producer like Letang, but I can't even find a comfortable projection for what he will do offensively.
He's just safe and efficient in all phases of the game, for better or worse. He doesn't have the creativity or dynamism to generate much offense, so he makes the low-risk play almost every time. I do like his shot though - he keeps it low and hard, and gets it off quick.
I can't see him putting up more than 20 points a year at the NHL level.
Team Orr:
David Musil, Vancouver Giants (94.2)
Stuart Percy, Mississauga St. Michael’s Majors (89.7)
Vincent Trocheck, Saginaw Spirit (92.4)
Reece Scarlett, Swift Current Broncos (86.9)
Team Orr Average: 90.8 mph
Team Cherry:
Myles Bell, Regina Pats (98.4) - One goal Scott Harrington, London Knights (90.9)
Duncan Siemens, Saskatoon Blades (92.4)
Tyler Wotherspoon, Portland Winterhawks (89.5)
Team Cherry Average: 92.8 mph - One goal
