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12-08-2012, 07:38 PM
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Leaves only J-S Giguere as the last remaining Hartford Whaler.

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12-08-2012, 07:53 PM
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Never really had an opinion of Pronger one way or the other, this is my favorite moment of him.

Scrum between the Islanders and Flyers, Dipietro is begging Pronger to let him have a go at Carcillo, Pronger finally asks Carcillo if he wants to go and when he gets a yes he lets it happen . Nothing came of it but I found it to be very standup. Granted, he probably smirked like that because he knew Carcillo could more than handle the Rick, but nevertheless...

That shrug at 2:50 is priceless.

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12-08-2012, 08:29 PM
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Never really had an opinion of Pronger one way or the other, this is my favorite moment of him.

Scrum between the Islanders and Flyers, Dipietro is begging Pronger to let him have a go at Carcillo, Pronger finally asks Carcillo if he wants to go and when he gets a yes he lets it happen . Nothing came of it but I found it to be very standup. Granted, he probably smirked like that because he knew Carcillo could more than handle the Rick, but nevertheless...

That shrug at 2:50 is priceless.
that's great.

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12-08-2012, 10:12 PM
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He turned three teams into cup contenders.
Hardly over rated bruh.
The Flyers were already contenders when he joined them.

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12-08-2012, 10:23 PM
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I didn't see this posted here though it's a few days old. Maybe it can be moved to the trades forum since it's speculation but the fact that him and his family have moved back to STL is not speculation.

So the official retirement has not been announced, he might not announce it till his contract runs out in 2017 or maybe is bought out.

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http://stlouis.sbnation.com/st-louis...s-blues-flyers

http://articles.philly.com/2012-12-0...k-gustafsson/2

Oh and sorry but I saw this:


funny cause i already assumed he retired... isnt he like 50 now?

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12-09-2012, 01:19 AM
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When the Kings and Ducks played each other in London a few years back, it took about one period for Pronger to start getting booed by the Brits.

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12-09-2012, 01:24 AM
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There's a special place in my heart for a hockey player I hated so much.

And I mean that in a good way.

Dominated the game like no other defenseman of his era.

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12-09-2012, 01:28 AM
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best defensemen post lockout prior to his concussion he turned 3 teams into cup contenders merely with his addition
Nick Lidstrom says hello.

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12-09-2012, 01:33 AM
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Nick Lidstrom says hello.
Did Lidstrom turn three different teams into contenders?

I think what Pronger did was really remarkable and he's up there with Lids.

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12-09-2012, 01:42 AM
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Did Lidstrom turn three different teams into contenders?

I think what Pronger did was really remarkable and he's up there with Lids.
Nick Lidstrom didn't need to turn three teams into contenders. He has been successful ever since he laced it up with the Winged Wheel. Why he not on Pronger's level for choosing to stay loyal and constantly play the role as the team MVP for the best hockey dynasty the past 2 decades? Nick Lidstrom was never on the trading block, nor did he consider signing elsewhere. He is the perfect hockey player. Pronger on the other hand was riddled with injuries, cheapshots, suspensions including slewfoots and was the ultimate playoff choker with those dominant Blues teams.

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12-09-2012, 02:09 AM
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Nick Lidstrom didn't need to turn three teams into contenders. He has been successful ever since he laced it up with the Winged Wheel. Why he not on Pronger's level for choosing to stay loyal and constantly play the role as the team MVP for the best hockey dynasty the past 2 decades? Nick Lidstrom was never on the trading block, nor did he consider signing elsewhere. He is the perfect hockey player. Pronger on the other hand was riddled with injuries, cheapshots, suspensions including slewfoots and was the ultimate playoff choker with those dominant Blues teams.
Nick Lidstrom was known as Dickless Lidstrom for years. He had his limits. When teams were able to dump the puck in behind Lidstrom and hit him, he was human. And we saw this a bit from young, fast physical teams in the playoffs.
He was not perfect.
He was was great. But this perfection thing is silly.

Pronger, too, was human. And he let his emotions get the best of him at times.
But as hockey is an emotional game, an emotional player is a plus in my book.

If I could have one defenseman from the last 15 years on my defense for a playoff run, I'd choose Pronger, because he could help me in any kind of series.

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12-09-2012, 02:21 AM
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Nick Lidstrom didn't need to turn three teams into contenders. He has been successful ever since he laced it up with the Winged Wheel. Why he not on Pronger's level for choosing to stay loyal and constantly play the role as the team MVP for the best hockey dynasty the past 2 decades? Nick Lidstrom was never on the trading block, nor did he consider signing elsewhere. He is the perfect hockey player. Pronger on the other hand was riddled with injuries, cheapshots, suspensions including slewfoots and was the ultimate playoff choker with those dominant Blues teams.
Those Blues teams were largely dominant because of Pronger. Goaltending was always the problem. Defense? Not so much.

Also, which of those Blues teams on paper were as good as the Avs or Wings? It was a very tough road to the Cup in the west for most teams due to the dominance of two veritable dynasties.

Edit: And yes, I do remember the Blues first round exits as well as the fact that they didn't face those two teams every playoff season.

Those Stars teams were not joke either come to think of it.

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12-09-2012, 08:53 AM
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The Flyers were already contenders when he joined them.
as we are every season then proceed to choke. Pronger at least brought us to the finals, where we could have won if it wasnt for Leighton

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12-09-2012, 09:16 AM
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Never really disliked Pronger that much although I don't love how he handled the Edmonton situation. That being said, I sure loved watching him and hope he gets fully healthy and is able to enjoy retirement.

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12-09-2012, 09:50 AM
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Nick Lidstrom says hello.
I'm not gonna argue about whether Lidstrom or Pronger were better. Almost no one saw them on a night-in night-out basis for the past decade but Pronger was so much more fun to watch.

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12-09-2012, 10:00 AM
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Pronger was cut from a different mold. Walked the line like Messier and Stevens. Always enjoyed watching him play.

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12-09-2012, 10:53 AM
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good riddance. he was a dbag and a cheapshot artist.

won't be missed.

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12-09-2012, 10:56 AM
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Pronger was cut from a different mold. Walked the line like Messier and Stevens. Always enjoyed watching him play.
This. I enjoyed watching Pronger in the playoffs so much, he was a beast.

Sad to end his career in this fashion. Hope he doesn't have too many long lasting effects of his concussion.

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12-09-2012, 11:01 AM
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Nick Lidstrom was known as Dickless Lidstrom for years. He had his limits. When teams were able to dump the puck in behind Lidstrom and hit him, he was human. And we saw this a bit from young, fast physical teams in the playoffs.
This is the first time I've heard this.

Lidstrom was never criticized by the media because he said all the right things, played the game in a respectful manner and his team constantly kept winning while he was the team's most valuable player.

Also the third sentence is absolutely false. Lidstrom barely got beat on the forecheck since he was probably the best at moving the puck out of his own zone. He got to the puck quicker than the forecheckers could and threaded needle passes to his wingers.

Which 'young, physical teams' nullified Lidstrom? He was really never the problem.

As with Pronger, he was taken to school by Patrick Kane in 2010. He's generally had a tougher time with the smaller, skilled players.


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He was not perfect.
He was was great. But this perfection thing is silly.
Almost every player the past few years acknowledge Lidstrom as the best d-man in the league when there was Neidermayer, Pronger, Zubov, etc. He is simply on another level.

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Pronger, too, was human. And he let his emotions get the best of him at times.
But as hockey is an emotional game, an emotional player is a plus in my book.
Chris Pronger was the modern day Joe Thornton before Joe Thornton became known as the choke artist. His Blues teams were quite dominant during the regular season, some years on par with the Wings.

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If I could have one defenseman from the last 15 years on my defense for a playoff run, I'd choose Pronger, because he could help me in any kind of series.
I'd choose Lidstrom because he is easily the better player. More cups, more Norris Trophies, a Conn Smythe, etc.

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12-09-2012, 11:16 AM
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Good riddance, Pronger is a dirty A-hole and maybe all his attempts to injure other players are coming back to bite him, I hate Pronger.
I'm sure you'd be singing a different tune if the Sens had drafted him instead of Daigle... Now that Daigle, there was an impact player!

And surely no Ottawa player has ever attempted to injure anyone...

Fact remains that he was one hell of a defenceman. Anyone who's says they wouldn't want someone of his caliber on their team is a liar.


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12-09-2012, 11:23 AM
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This thread says otherwise.

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12-09-2012, 11:31 AM
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Might be done playing, but I highly doubt he retires before 2015.

Still has $17m+ remaining on the contract and the Flyers certainly don't want him to retire, even if he doesn't play again.

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12-09-2012, 12:39 PM
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Did we ever find out why exactly he wanted to leave Edmonton?

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12-09-2012, 12:46 PM
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Good riddance. No respect for guys like him.

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One of the biggest *******s in the league but damn if you couldn't respect his talent. Don't think we will ever see another like him and that is a damn shame.

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