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CONFIRMED: RNH will attend camp!

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12-09-2012, 02:58 AM
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Word is that even answering the phone call set him back a year.
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12-09-2012, 07:30 AM
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Glad the feels he's fit to play but could be a risk that could backfire?

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That's awesome! Has there ever been a case of a players of RNH's NHL status come and play the WJC? I doubt it, but I wouldn't have a clue.
Eric Lindros was the most high-profile player ever to play for Canada at the WJC...He was brilliant in 91 and granted he was not returning from the NHL that 3rd year thanks to his dispute with Quebec, but the 1992 tournament was one of Canada's most disappointing tournaments in the 30 years we've been sending NT to this event...it was a stacked team that crashed and burned in Germany. That's hockey.

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great to hear and awesome to hear for canada!

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Good news and from a personal standpoint it will make the tournament more interesting for me to watch. seems like something he wants to do so I am glad he is getting the chance.

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Awful decision for his development. imo
I think its a good move for his development. Especially if Canada wins.

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Awful decision for his development. imo
WJC really ruined Toews, Crosby and Eberle

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Okay, checks out.

I'm pumped for this. By no means does this even guarantee us a medal but it will be nice to see a near full-eligible squad this year. I'm pumped for this tournament.

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I'm excited to see him at WJC. But also glad Canada is in the other group

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TSN needs to hire the goal announcer for the oilers. "Scored by number 93, Ryan... Nnnnnuuuuuuuuuuugent-Hopkins!

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Great news for Team Canada. Should RNH make the team I like him to give a dominant performance.

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That's awesome! Has there ever been a case of a players of RNH's NHL status come and play the WJC? I doubt it, but I wouldn't have a clue.
Sidney Crosby? Or guys like Mike Richards and Jeff Carter. That 2005 team had a crap load of NHL ready talent.


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As a hockey fan I rejoice! As a Finn I'm not so sure...

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Awful decision for his development. imo
Going to juniors wouldn't hurt him. Especially if he's still got gold to chase after.

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Sidney Crosby? Or guys like Mike Richards and Jeff Carter. That 2005 team had a crap load of NHL ready talent.
Crosby only played at 16 & 17. Richards & Carter were 11 & 24 overall picks. It is rare that a first overall pick in a draft ever plays for Canada in the year following their draft, as they generally go straight to the NHL. As a forward number 1 pick, playing at 19 is pretty much never going to happen again unless there is another lockout.

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The level of play isn't as high as the AHL, but there's other benefits. RNH will be a leader on this team, whereas in Edmonton and even Oklahoma he's a little bit in the shadow of other young stars. Hopefully he grabs the bull by the horns and can learn a thing or two about leading a team.
The level of play at the WJC is likely higher than the AHL, even with a few more NHL'ers than normal. The AHL is made up of guys who aren't good enough to play in an NHL that is already seriously watered down in terms of talent.

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The last time a 19 year old first overall forward played in the tournament, it did not end up with his team winning and that player was Alexander Ovechkin, who was developmentally a man child after 3.5 seasons playing against men in Russia.

As Canadians lets not get overly excited here or set the bar too high for RNH. In the last lockout, the highest scorer in the tournament had 13 points on that stacked Canadian team. Ovechkin had 11.

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12-09-2012, 12:58 PM
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The level of play at the WJC is likely higher than the AHL, even with a few more NHL'ers than normal. The AHL is made up of guys who aren't good enough to play in an NHL that is already seriously watered down in terms of talent.
The intensity and tempo of the WJC is definitely greater. That's what makes the WJC so exciting to watch. However, the strength of adults vs 18 & 19 year old players makes the AHL much tougher for these guys to compete and show what they are capable of, regardless of whether they are fringe NHLers or worse. Team Canada plays and loses to the CIS in warmup prior to the tournament and that is much, much worse than the AHL.

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The level of play at the WJC is likely higher than the AHL, even with a few more NHL'ers than normal. The AHL is made up of guys who aren't good enough to play in an NHL that is already seriously watered down in terms of talent.
No, the AHL is made up of much bigger, older more developed players. AHL teams would beat any U20 team almost every time.

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No, the AHL is made up of much bigger, older more developed players. AHL teams would beat any U20 team almost every time.
So the secret to success in hockey is being big and old? People complain, and justifiably, about the fact that are too many teams and not enough talent in the NHL. Now you say that guys who aren't good enough to make the NHL could easily defeat any WJC team whose players will be in the NHL or its equivalent next year. We'll never know for sure, of course, but I strongly doubt that big and old wins out against talent and ability.





















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12-09-2012, 02:13 PM
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He's going to camp, but will he make the team?
hes in the NHL..yes he will without a question

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Awful decision for his development. imo
This tournament isn't gonna make him regress or anything. He was like, a PPG, in the NHL last year. In this case, I don't think a month away can do much, if any, harm.

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So the secret to success in hockey is being big and old? People complain, and justifiably, about the fact that are too many teams and not enough talent in the NHL. Now you say that guys who aren't good enough to make the NHL could easily defeat any WJC team whose players will be in the NHL or its equivalent next year. We'll never know for sure, of course, but I strongly doubt that big and old wins out against talent and ability.





















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big and old... that has the same talent? the guys going to this tournament havn't made the NHL. the top players like RNH would be one of the best players still, however after the top guys (like crosby/stamkos/tavares) AHL players are better. imo the wj teams would put up a good contest against the marlies (AHL) but marlies come out on top (remeber kadri was a top player in this tournament when he was in it )

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So the secret to success in hockey is being big and old? People complain, and justifiably, about the fact that are too many teams and not enough talent in the NHL. Now you say that guys who aren't good enough to make the NHL could easily defeat any WJC team whose players will be in the NHL or its equivalent next year. We'll never know for sure, of course, but I strongly doubt that big and old wins out against talent and ability.
Most of these guys playing won't be in the NHL next year. Actually most of them won't be NHLers ever. Even Team Canada averages between 50%-75% future NHL regulars on their teams.


Its not so much the star players but the average one that determine how tough the level of competition is. And the average WJC player on a top 4 (Sweden, Russia, USA, Canada) team is going to be an average to above average non-NHL professional league player after 1-3 more years of development.

Same reason the NCAA is a tough league than the CHL. The extra years makes a huge difference when we are talking about ages 18-23.

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