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12-09-2012, 03:52 PM
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Just curious what teams value Kadri at?

Not including Canucks or Leafs fans.
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12-09-2012, 03:54 PM
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As an Oilers fan, i give you a second round pick, since most likely our second round pick will almost be a late first round pick again.

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12-09-2012, 05:05 PM
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As an Oilers fan, i give you a second round pick, since most likely our second round pick will almost be a late first round pick again.
And as a Leafs fan, Brian Burke more than likely hands up the phone before you can finish your sentence.

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12-09-2012, 08:33 PM
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As a Leafs fan , I'd trade him for a mid/late 1st rounder

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12-09-2012, 09:59 PM
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wouldn't give a 7th for him. Kadri's an obese bust.

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12-09-2012, 10:02 PM
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wouldn't give a 7th for him. Kadri's an obese bust.
Wrong. I suppose every player that has yet to make the NHL by Nazem's age is a bust. Unfortunate opinion there my friend.

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12-09-2012, 10:17 PM
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I think fair value would be a 1st rounder in the 15-25 range. However it would only make sense for Toronto to this at the draft if a specific player they're targeting is available. I don't think at this point Toronto would trade Kadri for "a pick" without a good idea of who would be available.

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12-09-2012, 10:49 PM
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he scores 40 point in 48 games in the AHL so far, so he is not a bust for sure.

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12-09-2012, 10:53 PM
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he scores 40 point in 48 games in the AHL so far, so he is not a bust for sure.
Well, actually... 41 in 44, 40 in 48 and 21 in 21 so far this season.

Kadri to Columbus for their first.

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12-09-2012, 10:56 PM
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Well, actually... 41 in 44, 40 in 48 and 21 in 21 so far this season.

Kadri to Columbus for their first.
my mistake 40 points in 48 games was last year, still he is not a bust.

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12-10-2012, 12:08 AM
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A 1st from a team with 2 balls
Maybe for Tlusty, sure

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Well, actually... 41 in 44, 40 in 48 and 21 in 21 so far this season.

Kadri to Columbus for their first.
So in 3 years.... his productivity has increased a whopping 7.5%??? From a .93 ppg player to a 1 ppg player.

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12-10-2012, 07:28 AM
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So in 3 years.... his productivity has increased a whopping 7.5%??? From a .93 ppg player to a 1 ppg player.
everyone knows the best way to analyze hockey players is through hockeyDB and a calculator

Well done sir

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12-10-2012, 05:19 PM
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Kadri is like Mike Ribeiro the 2nd coming. He'll be a productive player but if he ever gets traded it will be for pieces that probably aren't as good as him.

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everyone knows the best way to analyze hockey players is through hockeyDB and a calculator

Well done sir
If Kadri's offensive game had endured 3 years of development, wouldn't you think that it would've shown up on the stat line by more than 7.5%?

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If Kadri's offensive game had endured 3 years of development, wouldn't you think that it would've shown up on the stat line by more than 7.5%?
Chris Kreider is seen by a lot of people to be a great prospect he has a ppg of .45 this year worse than any of Kadri's season in the AHL showing there is more to scouting prospects than looking at hockeydb. Kadri was 1 denominational on his draft day he is now solid at both ends but that will never show up on the score sheet.

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my mistake 40 points in 48 games was last year, still he is not a bust.
CBL laugh . I laughed , Gagner is a bust the leaf fan say , but he not much older and has 5 years under his belt . A water bottle with a hole in it is fair value . Unless the CBJ need an average 1 denominational AHLer

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Kadri stinks, he'd be lucky to get a 5th

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12-10-2012, 06:49 PM
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Chris Kreider is seen by a lot of people to be a great prospect he has a ppg of .45 this year worse than any of Kadri's season in the AHL showing there is more to scouting prospects than looking at hockeydb. Kadri was 1 denominational on his draft day he is now solid at both ends but that will never show up on the score sheet.
A stretch, maybe hes improved to the point where hes not a liability. But his game is all offense so if he can put the puck in the net and not cause GA thats important

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12-10-2012, 06:53 PM
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Kadri stinks, he'd be lucky to get a 5th
I'm sure you meant fifth overall . . . in the first round.

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A stretch, maybe hes improved to the point where hes not a liability. But his game is all offense so if he can put the puck in the net and not cause GA thats important
I don't think so I never said he was a 2 way star,he was a liability his first year but he is certainly able to hold his own I would not say he is a 2 way player but he can play defense. His game has come a long way and while his offense hasn't improved much in the AHL of his time in he has been a top offensive player and especially this year is focusing on playing defense.

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12-10-2012, 08:00 PM
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Kadri is like Mike Ribeiro the 2nd coming. He'll be a productive player but if he ever gets traded it will be for pieces that probably aren't as good as him.
I don't know if he'll ever put up quite as many points as Ribeiro, but I feel this way as well. As a Leafs fan I'd rather just keep him. I'm completely confident he'll become a productive NHLer but I do think he has too many perceived question marks surrounding him to ever return full value in a trade.

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12-10-2012, 11:27 PM
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CBL laugh . I laughed , Gagner is a bust the leaf fan say , but he not much older and has 5 years under his belt . A water bottle with a hole in it is fair value . Unless the CBJ need an average 1 denominational AHLer
The ahl is the league you:
1. give the 1st and 2nd rounders age 20-21 establish there level of play.
Hopefully to a level that they can face 2nd and 3rd nhl lines while getting 2nd line nhl numbers 42-55pt. most will be 1ppg in AHL by 20-21
the 55PT plus player are usually in the 1.2ppg range by 20-21.
Anisimov,
2. to develop your 3rd to 7th rounders with promise hoping they break the third line numbers
31-42pt and move into draft steals by becoming 2nd liners. A
A guy like brad Marchand from Boston.

kadri was
.93 @ 20
.83 @ 21
This production says a ceiling of lower 2nd production.

He is currently a .33 PPG player in the NHL.

For U24 NHL centers.
#1 Giroux 1.19PPG
#5 RNH .84PPG
#9/10 Gagner/Stepan .63PPG 1st line production.
#15 Turris .53PPG 2nd line production
#20 Duschene .48PPG
#25 Josh Bailey .40PPG 3rd line
#30 Burmistrov .37PPG 4th line production
#35 Schenn/Kadri .33ppg

He is 22 but has a long way to go.

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12-10-2012, 11:28 PM
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I would say a late first or a similarly risky prospect or just an average NHL player.

I mean, he's obviously worth considerably less than Schenn but still might have a future as a player.

We will see!

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12-11-2012, 12:34 AM
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The ahl is the league you:
1. give the 1st and 2nd rounders age 20-21 establish there level of play.
Hopefully to a level that they can face 2nd and 3rd nhl lines while getting 2nd line nhl numbers 42-55pt. most will be 1ppg in AHL by 20-21
the 55PT plus player are usually in the 1.2ppg range by 20-21.
Anisimov,
2. to develop your 3rd to 7th rounders with promise hoping they break the third line numbers
31-42pt and move into draft steals by becoming 2nd liners. A
A guy like brad Marchand from Boston.

kadri was
.93 @ 20
.83 @ 21
This production says a ceiling of lower 2nd production.

He is currently a .33 PPG player in the NHL.

For U24 NHL centers.
#1 Giroux 1.19PPG
#5 RNH .84PPG
#9/10 Gagner/Stepan .63PPG 1st line production.
#15 Turris .53PPG 2nd line production
#20 Duschene .48PPG
#25 Josh Bailey .40PPG 3rd line
#30 Burmistrov .37PPG 4th line production
#35 Schenn/Kadri .33ppg

He is 22 but has a long way to go.
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