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Crosby/Ovechkin = MacKinnon/Yakupov?

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12-09-2012, 09:04 PM
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Crosby/Ovechkin = MacKinnon/Yakupov?

Obviously similar scenarios, birth countries (and cities), of course I'm not first to figure this out.


But would the rivalry between Crosby and Ovechkin be comparable to the situation that MacKinnon and Yakupov are in?


Sorry if there are threads on these, I don't visit the prospects/NHL discussion threads often.

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No because MacKinnon will be drafted by the Oilers.

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I dont know if it is comparable due to the fact that crosby and ovie and mac and yak arent the same type of players. Mac is like more like tavares and less like crosby and yak does really play like ovy. There might be the same rivalry between the two though. Time will tell..

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Didn't Pittsburgh lose the draft for Ovie and get Malkin, then won the draft during the lockout?

Columbus lost the draft for Yakupov and got Murray. Maybe we'll win this draft?

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I'm not sure if anyone in this thread has mentioned this, but MacKinnon will probably end up playing for the Oilers...

In all seriousness, probably not. Crosby and Ovechkin were the de facto #1A and #1B best players in the NHL and were counted on to be the faces of the NHL. Neither Yakopov nor MacKinnon will be the two best players in the NHL and I doubt the NHL will attempt to manufacture a rivalry between the two. Also, there's a chance they'll play in different conferences and only meet once or twice a year.

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So what I'm getting from this is that Phoenix will draft MacKinnon, save a dying franchise, and develop the greatest rivalry since Gretzky and Lemieux?

Or that MacKinnon is going to the Oilers

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Crosby and Ovechkin were drafted onto teams that, if they were not already rivals, at least had a history of playoff defeat and emotionally charged games with one another.

Maybe if MacKinnon gets drafted by Calgary (which could very well happen). But the NHL won't try to promote the rivalry due to the lack of impact on the U.S. market.

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12-09-2012, 10:24 PM
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I'm an Oilers fan but in terms of skill Yakupov doesn't come anywhere close to what Ovechkin was...and I doubt MacKinnon touches Crosby either.

That's pretty important for a rivalry. At one point Crosby/Ovechkin were virtually unanimously regarded as 1/2 in the world. I doubt that'll happen with Yakupov/MacKinnon

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Just to ask... what if the new CBA isn't in place by the draft? Does the NHL do an all inclusive draft in 2014?

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Not even remotely similar because Crosby and Ovechkin were the best players in the world for several years and the face of the league. Nothing is impossible, but Yakupov and MacKinnon do not project as generational players.

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no because oilers will be drafted by the MacKinnon

but seriously no because Yakupov is on the oilers


you can't replicate that rivalry when Yak shares the spotlight with RNH and the other two forwards although I think he will turn out to be the best

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No lol

And its too early anyway

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12-10-2012, 06:04 AM
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How about no?

Seriously, I don't get this kind of questions - even if there could be given an answer, and this answer would be "yes, the situation is comparable", where do people want to go with that?

Perhaps I'm a sceptic, but I just don't see any meaningful debates following such observations.

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No, not even close.

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Didn't Pittsburgh lose the draft for Ovie and get Malkin, then won the draft during the lockout?

Columbus lost the draft for Yakupov and got Murray. Maybe we'll win this draft?
Makes sense.

Talk to Gary, he can set it up for your team too!

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Didn't Pittsburgh lose the draft for Ovie and get Malkin, then won the draft during the lockout?

Columbus lost the draft for Yakupov and got Murray. Maybe we'll win this draft?
I'd like the Pens to "lose" more drafts if every draft they "lose", they draft a Malkin. Unless OV gets his game back, you could argue that WSH was the one who lost.

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No. They're a tier or two below those guys.

Still loling at the Grigorenko is the next Malkin homers...at least Buffalo fans are a little less absurd about their expectations.

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Didn't Pittsburgh lose the draft for Ovie and get Malkin, then won the draft during the lockout?

Columbus lost the draft for Yakupov and got Murray. Maybe we'll win this draft?
Pittsburgh truely lucked out then because Malkin>>Ovie. Maybe things would have been different had Crosby and Ovie been teammates instead of rivals.

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No because MacKinnon will be drafted by the Oilers.
lol i would die laughing.

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Even if the Oilers got MacKinnon, they'll still be s****y because between him, Hall, Eberle, Nugent-Hopkins, Schultz, and Yakupov, they would take up so much cap space that they'd have barely any $$ to acquire any decent depth players.

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12-11-2012, 01:11 AM
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Even if the Oilers got MacKinnon, they'll still be s****y because between him, Hall, Eberle, Nugent-Hopkins, Schultz, and Yakupov, they would take up so much cap space that they'd have barely any $$ to acquire any decent depth players.
Not really. They would dominate with a core like that. Depth players can be had for cheap. They'd be able to transition off ELCs for quite some time.

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12-11-2012, 02:14 AM
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Even if the Oilers got MacKinnon, they'll still be s****y because between him, Hall, Eberle, Nugent-Hopkins, Schultz, and Yakupov, they would take up so much cap space that they'd have barely any $$ to acquire any decent depth players.
There's no way that the Oilers would pick Mackinnon over Seth Jones.


1)Get a potential franchise defenseman in the draft.

2)Sign a big number 2 centreman through Unrestricted free agency.




Done

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12-11-2012, 07:08 AM
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There's no way that the Oilers would pick Mackinnon over Seth Jones.


1)Get a potential franchise defenseman in the draft.

2)Sign a big number 2 centreman through Unrestricted free agency.




Done
Nope

You always take the best possible player with the number one pick

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Nope

You always take the best possible player with the number one pick
Exactly, and Jones is the BPA.

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