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12-11-2012, 10:38 AM
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Boone Jenner

Curious if he's untouchable or not. Leafs would love to get him after seeing how well he and Biggs play together on the Generals.

I'd be willing to offer up something big depending on the Blue Jackets' needs.

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12-11-2012, 10:43 AM
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Curious if he's untouchable or not. Leafs would love to get him after seeing how well he and Biggs play together on the Generals.

I'd be willing to offer up something big depending on the Blue Jackets' needs.
Jenner

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Biggs + 1st 2013


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12-11-2012, 10:51 AM
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Curious if he's untouchable or not. Leafs would love to get him after seeing how well he and Biggs play together on the Generals.

I'd be willing to offer up something big depending on the Blue Jackets' needs.
You generally don't trade prospects for prospects, unless you were acquiring an absolute blue-chip player.

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You generally don't trade prospects for prospects, unless you were acquiring an absolute blue-chip player.
Where did I say I would trade only prospects?

Also, do you not remember Ashton for Aulie? That's just the first example off the top of my head, there have been dozens of prospects for prospects trades.

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it'll take an overpayment to pry him from us at this point...the Org is VERY high on him...especially with the offensive upside he's shown this year....

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If Boone were on any other team it would be a little bit easier.

Like the Leafs, the Jackets can't afford to part with prospects that show any sort of promise.

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Can anyone tell us CBJ needs? Even if he is untouchable, it'd be nice to see what CBJ fans want in this market. I know the Leafs have a surplus of quality defencemen; however, I think that CBJ fans said they don't need defencemen.

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Where did I say I would trade only prospects?
I figured as such because it's inconceivable to offer anything of value from our rosters in the AHL / NHL for a prospect that could just as easily bust and end up worse than pieces we send to Columbus.

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if Boone Jenner is an untouchable.

How many players are untouchable in this league?

(Jenner is the 8th best prospect of Colombus according to the latest top 20, while Columbus is 21th in the prospect team ranking)

note: i am all aware of his current good season in the OHL.

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if Boone Jenner is an untouchable.

How many players are untouchable in this league?

(Jenner is the 8th best prospect of Colombus according to the latest top 20, while Columbus is 21th in the prospect team ranking)
Those rankings don't mean anything.

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Those rankings don't mean anything.
Ho really?

so Ryan Murray isn't really more valuable than Drew Olson?

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Ho really?

so Ryan Murray isn't really more valuable than Drew Olson?
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Come on, its not because these ranking are not perfect that they doesn't mean anything.

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Can anyone tell us CBJ needs? Even if he is untouchable, it'd be nice to see what CBJ fans want in this market. I know the Leafs have a surplus of quality defencemen; however, I think that CBJ fans said they don't need defencemen.
Young Scoring Forwards.

Which (no offense) the Leafs aren't exactly swimming in.

Trading for Jenner doesn't make a lot of sense for the Leafs. That's probably a good thing. I like Jenner as a prospect, but he's becoming quite overhyped due to the season he's having.

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Come on, its not because these ranking are not perfect that they doesn't mean anything.
If they aren't perfect then why are you giving them undeserved weight in the decisions of the Jackets? I can guarantee you that the Jackets place a higher value on Jenner that those rankings would have you believe.

Jenner is the sixth best scorer in the OHL(tied for first in goals). They aren't rushing to the trade table with someone like that.

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I think management feels very highly of him as they should, overpayment would have to occur for Columbus give him up, and rarely do you see overpayment for a prospect.

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If they aren't perfect then why are you giving them undeserved weight in the decisions of the Jackets? I can guarantee you that the Jackets place a higher value on Jenner that those rankings would have you believe.

Jenner is the sixth best scorer in the OHL(tied for first in goals). They aren't rushing to the trade table with someone like that.
ok, then

If we assume Jenner is an untouchable....

Which one of these prospect are untouchable as well..?

Murray ?
Savard?
Erixon?
Dansk?
Tynan?
Calvert?
Atkinson ?
Goloubef ?

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I think management feels very highly of him as they should, overpayment would have to occur for Columbus give him up, and rarely do you see overpayment for a prospect.
You know, usually when a team draft a prospect they had him higher than his draft rank in their own ranking.

So the simple fact that Colombus drafted him instead of another player mean they feel highly about him. Its often the same for signed UFA who does with the team who offers them the most $.

So there is a normal gaps between the asking and bidding price. We understand that.

I just feel that "overpayment" and "untouchable" are strong word in this case.

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haven't seen one jacket fan say he's untouchable...all i said is that i know for a fact the org is very high on him and it would take an overpayment to get him...

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haven't seen one jacket fan say he's untouchable...all i said is that i know for a fact the org is very high on him and it would take an overpayment to get him...
But in theory, it always take an overpayment to fill the gap and pry a player from another team who are not looking to trade the player.

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ok, then

If we assume Jenner is an untouchable....

Which one of these prospect are untouchable as well..?

Murray - for now...until we know what we have...yes
Savard - nope...he could be had as part of a deal
Erixon? - the org thinks highly of him, but could be traded in right deal
Dansk? - for now he is...
Tynan? - dunno...doubt he's untouchable
Calvert? - not untouchable
Atkinson ? - pretty close to untouchable
Goloubef ? - not untouchable
my take on what i know thru others

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my take on what i know thru others
Thank you, it help define untouchable.

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Thank you, it help define untouchable.

Its just that i have seen these kind of prospect traded in the past.
i don't disagree...i just know thru a friend that works with the team some of the prospects that the team has a lot of promise for. Boone is very high on the list (along with Johanson, Atkinson, Dansk, and Murray) That is probably the list of "near untouchables" from a prospect side...

I think (my own opinion) that the WJC this year is going to tell us a bit more who is going to have a future and who can be traded. With the contract count nearing 50 we need to clear some room for the 4 top 33 picks we're going to have this upcoming year.

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i don't disagree...i just know thru a friend that works with the team some of the prospects that the team has a lot of promise for. Boone is very high on the list (along with Johanson, Atkinson, Dansk, and Murray) That is probably the list of "near untouchables" from a prospect side...

I think (my own opinion) that the WJC this year is going to tell us a bit more who is going to have a future and who can be traded. With the contract count nearing 50 we need to clear some room for the 4 top 33 picks we're going to have this upcoming year.
well, i have to go out now,

Just want to finish by saying i am a Montreal fan, but i cheer for Colombus and wish them the best for the years to come.

cant wait for the WJC, i will watch team Canada and Jenner

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ok, then

If we assume Jenner is an untouchable....

Which one of these prospect are untouchable as well..?

Murray ?
Savard?
Erixon?
Dansk?
Tynan?
Calvert?
Atkinson ?
Goloubef ?
That is a loaded argument. Being unwilling to trade Jenner isn't the same thing as being untouchable. They aren't trying to build a collection of trading cards. That means cultivating talent, and you can't do that by turning your prospect pool into a swap meet. Some of those prospects will be traded, possibly even Jenner, but that will happen when the right situation arises - which isn't always about value. Everyone can be traded but that doesn't mean that everyone is available at all times.

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