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12-10-2012, 08:22 PM
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You've gotta love how the same media figures who have attacked the Yankees for spending too much in the past are now attacking them for not spending enough.
It's pure hypocrisy and bias at its worst

You cannot please these kind of bitter agenda-driven haters

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12-10-2012, 08:36 PM
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The Steinbrenners deserve to be attacked. I'm sure they'll enjoy pocketing all that money at the expense of the on-field product.

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12-10-2012, 08:41 PM
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12-10-2012, 09:05 PM
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12-10-2012, 09:20 PM
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I did not say I was shocked.
The Yankees truely have painted themselves into a corner with their aged, overpaid roster.
I wouldn't say the team "painted themselves into a corner" as much as the rules were changed very rapidly. The new CBA was signed last November IIRC and honestly three years is a very short time for the team to cut the amount of payroll it had to while remaining competitive. The organization would have been ran much differently had they known the new luxury tax rules back in the 2008 offseason for example.

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12-10-2012, 09:34 PM
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The Steinbrenners deserve to be attacked. I'm sure they'll enjoy pocketing all that money at the expense of the on-field product.
Well, it's none of our business to tell the Steinbrenners what to do, I mean it's not like we handed them half a billion dollars four years ago. Oh, wait.

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12-10-2012, 10:57 PM
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Kevin Correia to Minnesota for 2 years/$10 million.

Gotta love baseball, where a guy who gets kicked out of a rotation still gets a raise.

Correia is a decent #5 starter who usually puts his team in position to at least be in a game, he's just utterly unspectacular at everything and generally becomes worthless after the 5th inning...he's one of those guys who's gold the first time through the batting order, okay the second time, and then falls apart the third time through.

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12-10-2012, 11:11 PM
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Correia is a decent #5 starter who usually puts his team in position to at least be in a game, he's just utterly unspectacular at everything and generally becomes worthless after the 5th inning...
Then he's the quintessential Twins starter. They've been in love with back-of-the-rotation, pitch-to-contact types for years.

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12-10-2012, 11:15 PM
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Well 2009 PETCO

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Well 2009 PETCO
His career road numbers are, oddly enough, better than his home numbers (considering the stadiums he's called 'home'). 2009 was an exception, but the differences were pretty insignificant (erase a blowout in Philadelphia and his splits are nearly identical).

He did have two absurd seasons of splits as a Pirate, though...last year at PNC Park his ERA was more than a run lower than on the road (3.64 vs. 4.74), his WHIP was significantly better (1.188 vs. 1.399), and his record was far better (7-3 vs. 5-8). That followed a season in which he was 2-8 with a 7.71 ERA and 1.714 WHIP at PNC Park (and 10-3, 2.64, 1.15 everywhere else). So...yeah.

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Kevin Correia to Minnesota for 2 years/$10 million.

Gotta love baseball, where a guy who gets kicked out of a rotation still gets a raise.

Correia is a decent #5 starter who usually puts his team in position to at least be in a game, he's just utterly unspectacular at everything and generally becomes worthless after the 5th inning...he's one of those guys who's gold the first time through the batting order, okay the second time, and then falls apart the third time through.
Heh 2013 is going to be such a tank year. Yeah but he sucks though. He's currently our #3 ().

Worley-Diamond-Correia is currently 60% of our starting rotation. I expect a trade for some sort of salary dump (Capuano?) and then someone like PJ Walters or another Scott Diamond or maybe even Hendricks as the #5. Gibson will start in AAA.

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i read somewhere that kyle gibson is ready for mlb action.

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Correia doesn't 'suck'...he's just the definition of a #5 starter and it makes me laugh that that's enough to make $5 million a year in this league.

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You'll be hoping to draft top-2.

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Pirates will be alright without Correia

Charlie Morton gonna come back soon

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The Steinbrenners deserve to be attacked. I'm sure they'll enjoy pocketing all that money at the expense of the on-field product.
I feel like people forget that they laid out $37 million this offseason to bring back Pettitte, Kuroda, and Rivera.

But hey, they got outbid for Nate Schierholz, so obviously the world is ending

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12-11-2012, 02:53 PM
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I feel like people forget that they laid out $37 million this offseason to bring back Pettitte, Kuroda, and Rivera.

But hey, they got outbid for Nate Schierholz, so obviously the world is ending


While that's a lot of money, those three are nearing their retirements.

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12-11-2012, 02:57 PM
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I feel like people forget that they laid out $37 million this offseason to bring back Pettitte, Kuroda, and Rivera.

But hey, they got outbid for Nate Schierholz, so obviously the world is ending
I don't really care about Schierholtz - he'd have been an OK pickup, but life goes on. I'm annoyed that they can't dole out a multiyear deal to a guy like Martin, leaving them with a pathetic catching triumvirate. I can't stand this "one-year deal or bust" crap, and I can't stand seeing the Dodgers spend at will while the Yankee empire scales itself back because of the Steinbrenner kids - the same people responsible for saddling the Yankees with A-Rod's crippling contract. The franchise's new $189 million payroll limit wouldn't be so bad if it a.) didn't already have so much money tied up in aging players and b.) actually had star-caliber minor league talent set to contribute. Alas, the Yankees' best prospects are nowhere near ready and now, because of all their bloated contracts, they're left to ask themselves if they should even re-sign their best player, Cano, in the next year. Speaking of the next year, the Yankees look poised to enter the 2013 season having willfully downgraded at catcher, right field, on the bench and in the bullpen. That's unacceptable.


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On a serious note anyone thinking a team run by Shapiro and Antonetti could win a division or a championship is deluding themselves

They are making moves this offseason, but are they the right moves? Is the environment there conducive for a winner?

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12-11-2012, 03:24 PM
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On a serious note anyone thinking a team run by Shapiro and Antonetti could win a division or a championship is deluding themselves
Yeah, we'll see, won't we.

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On a serious note anyone thinking a team run by Shapiro and Antonetti could win a division or a championship is deluding themselves

They are making moves this offseason, but are they the right moves? Is the environment there conducive for a winner?
Like I said at the time of the Acta firing, Antonetti and Shapiro are garbage.

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