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12-11-2012, 06:32 PM
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New Jersey graciously accepts your generous offer for Steve Bernier.

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12-11-2012, 06:34 PM
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Assuming the Blackhawks wanted him, it'd likely be because they think he's more than what he's shown so far in his role as a backup goaltender. They would believe that he's a legitimate NHL starter when given the opportunity to get the lion's share of the work. That is, they'd probably believe that, given the same opportunity, Bernier would perform better than Crawford. (And before someone focuses only on that sentence, remember that the presumption is that the Hawks would want Bernier--maybe they don't--and if they did want him, that's probably why.)

I know Chicago would want to buy lower than the OP, but LA may not be selling at the price Hawks fans want. I think Bernier's value is similar to Lindback's, which was the 37th and 50th picks (in what many perceived to be a weaker draft) and a 2013 3rd--that was the substance of the deal, anyways. Is a pick between 21-30 (in what may be considered a strong draft) + Kevin Hayes of similar quality to the Lindback haul? I don't know, because I don't know enough about K. Hayes. But I don't think it's that far off, assuming the Hawks were looking to acquire Bernier.
I totally agree to the frist part of this and think that any team that is interested in aquiring him would have to think this way. Other wise they wouldn't pay what the kings want for him. So to all thoses saying hes not worth it this assumption would calm that concern. To the people saying hes not proven anything that may or not be true but then go over pay for the proven loungo and be prepared to eat the end cap space in 3 4 years when he proves not to be worth the money. I am sticking to the fact i don't see the black hawks as a trading partner due to the fact there in the same conference and they won't want to face him for the next decade or two.

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12-11-2012, 06:37 PM
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I totally agree to the frist part of this and think that any team that is interested in aquiring him would have to think this way. Other wise they wouldn't pay what the kings want for him. So to all thoses saying hes not worth it this assumption would calm that concern. To the people saying hes not proven anything that may or not be true but then go over pay for the proven loungo and be prepared to eat the end cap space in 3 4 years when he proves not to be worth the money. I am sticking to the fact i don't see the black hawks as a trading partner due to the fact there in the same conference and they won't want to face him for the next decade or two.
Or they could talk to Panthers about Theodore given Markstrom/Clemensen being around

Or talk to Sabres about getting a guy in Enroth who has shown about as much as Bernier for a little cheaper

Or talk to Sharks for Greiss or see if they are interested in moving Niemi and his contract

Bernier isn't the only option out there

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I think something like Stalberg for Bernier is more then fair value wise

Kings could use depth at LW in there top 9

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12-11-2012, 06:44 PM
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Or they could talk to Panthers about Theodore given Markstrom/Clemensen being around

Or talk to Sabres about getting a guy in Enroth who has shown about as much as Bernier for a little cheaper

Or talk to Sharks for Greiss or see if they are interested in moving Niemi and his contract

Bernier isn't the only option out there
Fair enuff if you think there better options go right ahead but you can't blame the kings for asking a fair value for what would be/ could be a upgrade to the your weekest area of your team Making your team better then the frist and prospect. I still say there is no chance of this happening. Why would the kings give the hawks team in there same conference a chance to upgrade there biggest weekness for cheap.

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12-11-2012, 06:50 PM
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I think something like Stalberg for Bernier is more then fair value wise

Kings could use depth at LW in there top 9
brown penner king clifford gagne richardson as of right now are the leftwings on the kings. We have no need for any nhl caliber leftwingers. However penner and gagne are free agents at the end of the season so a lw prospect that may make the team next year is needed.

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brown penner king clifford gagne richardson as of right now are the leftwings on the kings. We have no need for any nhl caliber leftwingers. However penner and gagne are free agents at the end of the season so a lw prospect that may make the team next year is needed.
Stalberg is better than everyone on that list except for Brown. The other 5 combined for 68 points last year (266 combined games).

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12-11-2012, 07:17 PM
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brown penner king clifford gagne richardson as of right now are the leftwings on the kings. We have no need for any nhl caliber leftwingers. However penner and gagne are free agents at the end of the season so a lw prospect that may make the team next year is needed.
Agree 2x. Our new need is a young stud NHL d-man, a guy ready for the top 4 rather than a bunch of guys trying to dislodge a vet in the bottom pairing.

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Stalberg is better than everyone on that list except for Brown. The other 5 combined for 68 points last year (266 combined games).
On a ultadefensive team that in total scored 188 There was a team wide offensive drought but they were also the second best defensive team and won a cup. So imo that more then made up the difference.

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12-11-2012, 07:21 PM
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Agree 2x. Our new need is a young stud NHL d-man, a guy ready for the top 4 rather than a bunch of guys trying to dislodge a vet in the bottom pairing.
we have him imo derek forbert still a couple years away yet thou. A young scoring lwer is still our main need imo as penner and gagne are free agents at the end of the year and i dont think pearson will be ready in time.

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we have him imo derek forbert still a couple years away yet thou. A young scoring lwer is still our main need imo as penner and gagne are free agents at the end of the year and i dont think pearson will be ready in time.
Jeremy Morin?

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Jeremy Morin?
Add a frist to him and i would be ok with it value wise. I already know your ll say its to much but according to tsns Bob McKenzie the kings were offered by tampa a 1st and connelly at last years deadline. The kings declined it because quick wasn't signed long term and they had no one ready to backup quick that they were comfortable with. Now with that said i dont see why they would settle for anything less especially within there same conference.

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Add a frist to him and i would be ok with it value wise. I already know your ll say its to much but according to tsns Bob McKenzie the kings were offered by tampa a 1st and connelly at last years deadline. The kings declined it because quick wasn't signed long term and they had no one ready to backup quick that they were comfortable with. Now with that said i dont see why they would settle for anything less especially within there same conference.
Morin + 2014 2nd = Sure
Morin + 1st = Nah

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12-11-2012, 07:45 PM
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Morin + 2014 2nd = Sure
Morin + 1st = Nah
np the kings can keep him hes signed for this year and rfa after. If and when he "proves himself" more i can see the price going up. Hes great insurance for a recovering quick. There is another reason for his higher value his contract hes a cheap option and hes rfa for proberly 3 years. contract status = higher value then other goalies.

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