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12-11-2012, 12:24 PM
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Okay, so weird stuff is going on in my CBJ BAGM.

I throw it on CPU vs CPU and then do something else like study, watch TV, play PC games, etc. and I've been playing with the sliders a bit to try to get more realistic looking hockey with realistic results (shots/game, shooting %, etc.)

Here's the weird thing: With those settings, Columbus CAN'T lose. They're 14-0-1 over their last 15 ...

I'm scratching my head as to how this is remotely possible because, with my customized rosters, Columbus is not very good.

The current "unbeatable" roster (due to injuries):

R. Umberger (83) - B. Dubinsky (82) - D. Dorsett (75)
V. Prospal (84) - D. Brassard (81) - C. Atkinson (75)
N. Foligno (79) - A. Anisimov (79) - J. Boll (72)
M. Calvert (78) - D. Mackenzie (76) - T. Kubalik (70)

J. Johnson (85) - J. Wisniewski (86)
F. Tyutin (84) - A. Aucoin (83)
N. Nikitin (80) - D. Savard (74)

S. Mason (79)
S. Bobrovsky (78)

I don't understand how this team is winning, let alone winning 96.7% of their games. *scratches head*

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12-11-2012, 01:39 PM
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Okay, so weird stuff is going on in my CBJ BAGM.

I throw it on CPU vs CPU and then do something else like study, watch TV, play PC games, etc. and I've been playing with the sliders a bit to try to get more realistic looking hockey with realistic results (shots/game, shooting %, etc.)

Here's the weird thing: With those settings, Columbus CAN'T lose. They're 14-0-1 over their last 15 ...

I'm scratching my head as to how this is remotely possible because, with my customized rosters, Columbus is not very good.

The current "unbeatable" roster (due to injuries):

R. Umberger (83) - B. Dubinsky (82) - D. Dorsett (75)
V. Prospal (84) - D. Brassard (81) - C. Atkinson (75)
N. Foligno (79) - A. Anisimov (79) - J. Boll (72)
M. Calvert (78) - D. Mackenzie (76) - T. Kubalik (70)

J. Johnson (85) - J. Wisniewski (86)
F. Tyutin (84) - A. Aucoin (83)
N. Nikitin (80) - D. Savard (74)

S. Mason (79)
S. Bobrovsky (78)

I don't understand how this team is winning, let alone winning 96.7% of their games. *scratches head*
That's insane...

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12-11-2012, 02:24 PM
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Okay, so weird stuff is going on in my CBJ BAGM.

I throw it on CPU vs CPU and then do something else like study, watch TV, play PC games, etc. and I've been playing with the sliders a bit to try to get more realistic looking hockey with realistic results (shots/game, shooting %, etc.)

Here's the weird thing: With those settings, Columbus CAN'T lose. They're 14-0-1 over their last 15 ...

I'm scratching my head as to how this is remotely possible because, with my customized rosters, Columbus is not very good.

The current "unbeatable" roster (due to injuries):

R. Umberger (83) - B. Dubinsky (82) - D. Dorsett (75)
V. Prospal (84) - D. Brassard (81) - C. Atkinson (75)
N. Foligno (79) - A. Anisimov (79) - J. Boll (72)
M. Calvert (78) - D. Mackenzie (76) - T. Kubalik (70)

J. Johnson (85) - J. Wisniewski (86)
F. Tyutin (84) - A. Aucoin (83)
N. Nikitin (80) - D. Savard (74)

S. Mason (79)
S. Bobrovsky (78)

I don't understand how this team is winning, let alone winning 96.7% of their games. *scratches head*
I posted a bit earlier about my weakling Winnipeg Jets going on crazy winning streaks; that was with mostly default settings though and I didn't even change the default strategies. I ended the season with a 67-10-5 record:

Kane (83) - Getzlaf (88) - Hemsky (83)
Ladd (83) - Zajac (84) - Iginla (85) (DL acquisition for Glencross+)
Schenn (78) - Bolland (83) - Wheeler (83)
Burmistrov (77) - Malhotra (DL) - Wellwood (77)

Del Zotto (84) - Byfuglien (87)
Sbisa (83) - Bogosian (84)
Vinny (78) - Bieksa (83)

Pavelec (82)
Auld (77)

(MDZ/Kane/Bolland missed a lot of time)

Getzlaf posted 38G 62A and won the Art Ross, Ted Lindsey and Hart trophies. Pavelec had 59 wins, 1.91 GAA, .919 SV% and won both the Vezina and the Jennings. Even Bauldie did well, posting 8 wins, 1.88 GAA and .929 SV%

Iginla didn't even put the team over the top, by the time the deadline came I already had 50 wins.


By the way, what do you do to increase shots/game and specially, shooting percentage? Scoring seems to be quite a bit lower than IRL and goalies can post crazy SV%. Playoffs are even harsher. I tried systematically increasing scoring by cranking up penalties, but it didn't help much because PP conversion rates are low.

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12-11-2012, 02:28 PM
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In NHL 12, I actually had a bit of fun abusing the sim engine. If you have one player NHL caliber while all the rest are AHL caliber or lower, the sim engline likes to give all the points to that one player and maybe one other player. For example, here is a few pictures from a team I made back in NHL 12. Remember first of all that everyone had higher ratings in NHL 12, so an 82 is like a 79ish in 13





I might go back and do something similar in NHL 13, except maybe try replacing comrie with somebody just absolutely incredible like Crosby, see if that makes a difference.
Haha, I remember back in my NHL 09 PC days where salaries would run crazy quickly... so I'd end up rolling with three lines and two pairings, with the top line also playing 4th line minutes and the top pairing filling on for the bottom 6. 60+ goals was like nothing. Funny to see they still haven't fixed the issue.

Can you check how many minutes Comrie/Johnson got?

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Okay, so weird stuff is going on in my CBJ BAGM.

I throw it on CPU vs CPU and then do something else like study, watch TV, play PC games, etc. and I've been playing with the sliders a bit to try to get more realistic looking hockey with realistic results (shots/game, shooting %, etc.)

Here's the weird thing: With those settings, Columbus CAN'T lose. They're 14-0-1 over their last 15 ...

I'm scratching my head as to how this is remotely possible because, with my customized rosters, Columbus is not very good.

I don't understand how this team is winning, let alone winning 96.7% of their games. *scratches head*
The end of the world is coming!!!! 2012-12-21

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12-11-2012, 05:16 PM
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Why do so many center prospects suck at taking faceoffs? It seems like every good young center that comes through the draft is a 60 on draws.

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Okay, so weird stuff is going on in my CBJ BAGM.

I throw it on CPU vs CPU and then do something else like study, watch TV, play PC games, etc. and I've been playing with the sliders a bit to try to get more realistic looking hockey with realistic results (shots/game, shooting %, etc.)

Here's the weird thing: With those settings, Columbus CAN'T lose. They're 14-0-1 over their last 15 ...

I'm scratching my head as to how this is remotely possible because, with my customized rosters, Columbus is not very good.

The current "unbeatable" roster (due to injuries):

R. Umberger (83) - B. Dubinsky (82) - D. Dorsett (75)
V. Prospal (84) - D. Brassard (81) - C. Atkinson (75)
N. Foligno (79) - A. Anisimov (79) - J. Boll (72)
M. Calvert (78) - D. Mackenzie (76) - T. Kubalik (70)

J. Johnson (85) - J. Wisniewski (86)
F. Tyutin (84) - A. Aucoin (83)
N. Nikitin (80) - D. Savard (74)

S. Mason (79)
S. Bobrovsky (78)

I don't understand how this team is winning, let alone winning 96.7% of their games. *scratches head*
What year are you in? Looking at the roster...I'm assuming one of the first few years? For some reason the Blue Jackets and Islanders sim amazing right away. No idea why.

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12-11-2012, 06:46 PM
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Why do so many center prospects suck at taking faceoffs? It seems like every good young center that comes through the draft is a 60 on draws.
I think it's a bug, they all seem to suck. 75 is like amazing later on..which is annoying.

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12-11-2012, 06:57 PM
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Haha, I remember back in my NHL 09 PC days where salaries would run crazy quickly... so I'd end up rolling with three lines and two pairings, with the top line also playing 4th line minutes and the top pairing filling on for the bottom 6. 60+ goals was like nothing. Funny to see they still haven't fixed the issue.

Can you check how many minutes Comrie/Johnson got?
Would check if I could, I think I saved over that game within a month of taking those pictures about a year ago.

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12-11-2012, 06:59 PM
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I think it's a bug, they all seem to suck. 75 is like amazing later on..which is annoying.
Wondering if it's maybe intentionally done to prevent them from getting ridiculous overall's?

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Why do so many center prospects suck at taking faceoffs? It seems like every good young center that comes through the draft is a 60 on draws.
Yeah I feel you. I have Morgan klimchuk in my Colorado Gm. Great stats all arounnd, 81 overall but his faceoff is 61 which really makes me mad because he is supposed to be my 2nd line Center now and for the future.

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Why do so many center prospects suck at taking faceoffs? It seems like every good young center that comes through the draft is a 60 on draws.
Yep. Though I got a great center as a #1 pick last season who came with a 71 F/O rating. He came out of the draft at 72 with 4 yellow and is now 80 after a year in the AHL.

My team is pretty stacked right now... as the Red Wings, I'll post my roster tomorrow. Very pleased with the way I ran this club in terms of trades, drafting and development. Only one cup under my belt but that's with no intervention this time around. Usually I play out playoffs more and can win key games, this time I let my GM skills do the talking and hoped it'd be enough. It's been a fun ride. Starting to get into the weird area of 5 games in a row and other unrealistic elements that ruin it for me but I've learned a lot and I know my next run will result in more cups. Still enjoying the hell out of this one.

Carolina put both E. Staal (87) and B. Campbell (86) on waivers in the same year and I claimed them both for Grand Rapids, which then went on a tear through the AHL even more than they already were.

Another notable moment of this BAGM is my drafting of a beastly D-man #4 overall. 6'4", 220-ish, Right-handed and he came out a 74 with 4 yellow. Spent a year in juniors and ended up on the big club at age 19 rated 86. So awesome. Name is Aaron Ekblad. I absolutely love drafting as a kind of mini lotto scratch ticket, for lack of a better comparison.

My top 4 D right now is:

McDonagh (88) - Pietrangelo (91)
Kronwall (88) - Ekblad (86)

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What year are you in? Looking at the roster...I'm assuming one of the first few years? For some reason the Blue Jackets and Islanders sim amazing right away. No idea why.
For me, the Isles are usually mediocre (bubble team) right off the bat. It's always the Oilers and CBJ that are somehow good for no reason.

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Wondering if it's maybe intentionally done to prevent them from getting ridiculous overall's?
Not really, the faceoff stat simply doesn't progress like the others.

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Ekblad was granted exceptional player status like Tavares to play in OHL at 15.
I drafted him thinking I was so smart! He topped out at 75 in 4 or 5 years

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Another notable moment of this BAGM is my drafting of a beastly D-man #4 overall. 6'4", 220-ish, Right-handed and he came out a 74 with 4 yellow. Spent a year in juniors and ended up on the big club at age 19 rated 86. So awesome. Name is Aaron Ekblad.
Kronwall (88) - Ekblad (86)

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Wondering if it's maybe intentionally done to prevent them from getting ridiculous overall's?
Faceoffs barely factors into Overall (0.3%)

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Player progression is retarded. I drafted Josh Ho-Sang in the 2014 draft and he came out at 54 overall with 4.5 star potential. After another year in the OHL he is only 58 overall...

However my AHL backup goalie who got zero starts jumped from 74 to 83. (3.5 star potential)

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For me, the Isles are usually mediocre (bubble team) right off the bat. It's always the Oilers and CBJ that are somehow good for no reason.
[Conspiracy Theory] It's the "wow" moments introduced in NHL '11 factoring in to the game outcomes. [/Conspiracy Theory]

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I think the faceoff percentages are low so it keeps it competitive, but some people can be faceoff specialists.

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I find one of the most annoying features of this game relates to trading. Maybe I'm just a little too OCD when it comes to my stats but I don't like seeing "trades that lowered your rep" on the tracker. Well almost ANY trade that is not for a "red" player lowers your rep no matter how good/bad it is.

The game lets you trade a bunch of scrubs for a star the computer "wants to give away" with no ill effects. Yet when I want say Landeskog from Colorado I could give them the exact value to trade him or an over payment like Corey Perry plus a first round pick, which actually shows my GM rep go up, and then I still get that "lowered your rep" stat.

Due to this type of stuff and the wacky player progression I am actually thinking of just switching back to playing NHL12. Only problem is the presentation of 13 is so much better. It is funny how blocky all the menus look in 12 after going back to look at it.

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What year are you in? Looking at the roster...I'm assuming one of the first few years? For some reason the Blue Jackets and Islanders sim amazing right away. No idea why.
1st year, not simming

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Ekblad was granted exceptional player status like Tavares to play in OHL at 15.
I drafted him thinking I was so smart! He topped out at 75 in 4 or 5 years
Damn that sucks, he's like a Shea Weber lite for me and he's not even 20!

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I'm going to do a fantasy draft later tonight but I want to change things up a little bit... I decided to think of some kind of rule to abide by. I was thinking that I would give myself the 30th pick and I can't draft anyone under the age of 30 besides two prospects. Usually I just get a stacked team right away or have all the best prospects through fantasy draft. This way it will not be the case. Any other suggestions?

Edit: Actually I can probably still get a decent team with 30+ year olds. Maybe only 35+ year olds?

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Claimed N. Horton in year 2 in my GM because Boston got Hemsky and Eager and thought they would be better than Horton... Stupid ass AI GMs. Then to make things worse the freaking San Jose Sharks WAIVED JOE THORNTON! This is the worst one I've seen yet, they made a trade with NJ for scrub players and then NJ claimed Thornton off of waivers... This is getting annoying :/

I agree with faceoff stats, its nearly impossible to draft centers with good faceoffs, I actually noticed that TWF wingers usually have good a faceoff stat so I just use them as my centers

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I'm going to do a fantasy draft later tonight but I want to change things up a little bit... I decided to think of some kind of rule to abide by. I was thinking that I would give myself the 30th pick and I can't draft anyone under the age of 30 besides two prospects. Usually I just get a stacked team right away or have all the best prospects through fantasy draft. This way it will not be the case. Any other suggestions?

Edit: Actually I can probably still get a decent team with 30+ year olds. Maybe only 35+ year olds?
The ground rules that my friend and I use are:

LW = 5 (1 x <20, 1 x 20-24, 1 x 25-29, 1 x 30-34, 1 x 35+)
C = 6 (1 x <20, 1 x 20-24, 1 x 25-29, 2 x 30-34, 1 x 35+)
RW = 5 (1 x <20, 1 x 20-24, 1 x 25-29, 1 x 30-34, 1 x 35+)
LD = 6 (1 x <20, 1 x 20-24, 2 x 25-29, 1 x 30-34, 1 x 35+)
RD = 6 (1 x <20, 1 x 20-24, 2 x 25-29, 1 x 30-34, 1 x 35+)
G = 4 (2 x 18-24, 1 x 25-34, 1 x 35+)

No signing free agents or making trades until December 1 in first season.

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