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12-12-2012, 01:33 PM
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Hamilton won't be traded for anything less than Malkin.

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12-12-2012, 01:39 PM
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Hamilton won't be traded for anything less than Malkin.
Oh please, don't make us all look like homers.

There are plenty of players we'd trade Hamilton for.

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12-12-2012, 02:19 PM
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Hamilton is a stud an addresses a bigger need for Boston. Boston declines.

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12-12-2012, 08:37 PM
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Defencemen named to the All-star team in the World Juniors recently:


2012- Gormley, Klefbom
2011- Ellis, Orlov
2010- Pietrangelo, Carlson
2009- Subban, Karlsson
2008- Doughty, Hedman
2007- E.Johnson, Letang
2006- Bourdon, J.Johnson
2005- Phaneuf, Sutter


I am not trying to make any point, just thought it was pretty interesting.

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12-12-2012, 10:11 PM
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if someone passes on this deal, it's not Boston.
Both teams pass but Boston easily passes on this.

As for the op I have no idea why you put that random phone conversation thing. I guess it's the result of no hockey

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12-13-2012, 08:17 AM
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Both teams pass but Boston easily passes on this.

As for the op I have no idea why you put that random phone conversation thing. I guess it's the result of no hockey
"easily" passes on Yakupov? betch if they had a chance to get him for Hamilton they would regardless of whether or not Hamilton fills a supposed better need for Boston in the future or not. Boston will always have the opportunity to sign the Chara's of the world if Hamilton was gone, but they'd still have Yakupov.

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12-13-2012, 09:00 AM
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"easily" passes on Yakupov? betch if they had a chance to get him for Hamilton they would regardless of whether or not Hamilton fills a supposed better need for Boston in the future or not. Boston will always have the opportunity to sign the Chara's of the world if Hamilton was gone, but they'd still have Yakupov.
I bet you that they would never trade Hamilton for Yakupov.
That organization is extremely high on him plus the fact that potential #1 defensemen are more valuable than #1 RW's and the fact that Yakupov and Hamilton are fairly close as far as potential is concerned. There is no way that they would trade Hamilton for Yakupov IMO.

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12-13-2012, 09:00 AM
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"easily" passes on Yakupov? betch if they had a chance to get him for Hamilton they would regardless of whether or not Hamilton fills a supposed better need for Boston in the future or not. Boston will always have the opportunity to sign the Chara's of the world if Hamilton was gone, but they'd still have Yakupov.
Who exactly are the "Chara's of the world", and why don't more teams get the opportunity to sign them?

Boston got very lucky that Ottawa let him slip. You haven't really seen a similar calibre defenceman move except for Suter (who likely won't hit Chara's peak) and that required a 100 mil contract.

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12-13-2012, 09:06 AM
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"easily" passes on Yakupov? betch if they had a chance to get him for Hamilton they would regardless of whether or not Hamilton fills a supposed better need for Boston in the future or not. Boston will always have the opportunity to sign the Chara's of the world if Hamilton was gone, but they'd still have Yakupov.
So we can sign the Charas of the world but not the Yakupovs? What?

I also doubt wed trade Hamilton for Yakupov. Not gonna pretend I know the answer to that tho.

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12-13-2012, 10:06 AM
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"easily" passes on Yakupov? betch if they had a chance to get him for Hamilton they would regardless of whether or not Hamilton fills a supposed better need for Boston in the future or not. Boston will always have the opportunity to sign the Chara's of the world if Hamilton was gone, but they'd still have Yakupov.
How do you figure that the Bruins will have the opportunity to sign "the Chara's of the world"?

It isn't very often that a guy like Chara becomes available. It is probably easier to get a good winger than a perrenial Norris trophy finalist.

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12-13-2012, 10:10 AM
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"easily" passes on Yakupov? betch if they had a chance to get him for Hamilton they would regardless of whether or not Hamilton fills a supposed better need for Boston in the future or not. Boston will always have the opportunity to sign the Chara's of the world if Hamilton was gone, but they'd still have Yakupov.
I say Boston will always have the opportunity to sign the Yakupov's of the world. P.Kane is set to be a UFA soon, wingers are always available on the open market be it free agency or trade, (Gaborik, Parise, Kovalchuk, Nash, Neal) some of the more recents. Big, skilled, top-pairing dmen arent moving as frequently IMO.

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12-13-2012, 10:50 AM
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Who exactly are the "Chara's of the world", and why don't more teams get the opportunity to sign them?

Boston got very lucky that Ottawa let him slip. You haven't really seen a similar calibre defenceman move except for Suter (who likely won't hit Chara's peak) and that required a 100 mil contract.
^the ability to sign the big UFA's that the Oilers apparently can't is what i mean.

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So we can sign the Charas of the world but not the Yakupovs? What?

I also doubt wed trade Hamilton for Yakupov. Not gonna pretend I know the answer to that tho.
re-read what i said. i implied that Boston has the ability to sign a big UFA d-man similar to Suter or Chara, not guaranteed, but have at least a chance, that could replace a traded player like Hamilton. meanwhile, the B's still would have Yakupov to show for a Hamilton trade.

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12-13-2012, 10:58 AM
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How do you figure that the Bruins will have the opportunity to sign "the Chara's of the world"?

It isn't very often that a guy like Chara becomes available. It is probably easier to get a good winger than a perrenial Norris trophy finalist.
i'm implying that Boston, along with Detroit, Philly and the Rangers seem to be yearly favorites for good UFA's to sign....not all of them of course, Parise and Suter proved that didn't they? but if i was a UFA and a good or great player, Boston would be one of the cities i'd consider if they were interested in me...i would likely have not interest in Dallas or Edmonton or Columbus unless these 3 were legit cup contenders like Boston obviously still is.

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12-13-2012, 11:53 AM
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i'm implying that Boston, along with Detroit, Philly and the Rangers seem to be yearly favorites for good UFA's to sign....not all of them of course, Parise and Suter proved that didn't they? but if i was a UFA and a good or great player, Boston would be one of the cities i'd consider if they were interested in me...i would likely have not interest in Dallas or Edmonton or Columbus unless these 3 were legit cup contenders like Boston obviously still is.
If that is indeed the case then they can just sign a winger when they need one. Wing is also the least important position, if you have a guy who will be a #1 goaltender, defenseman, or center, in that order, shouldn't you just hang on to them?

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12-13-2012, 12:08 PM
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^the ability to sign the big UFA's that the Oilers apparently can't is what i mean.
Yeah, but it's a moot point with no supply is what I mean.

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12-13-2012, 12:13 PM
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Don't need to sign big free agents when you can snag the big names 1st overall, year after year.

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Don't need to sign big free agents when you can snag the big names 1st overall, year after year.
see you in the cup finals.

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see you in the cup finals.
Before or after all of your 1st round picks need contracts?

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12-13-2012, 02:35 PM
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to Edmonton:

Hamilton
Subban
1st Round '13

to Boston:

Yakupov
Klefbom
The Oilers aren't going to give up their awesome snack pack for the Bruins plate of broccoli.

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Id say no from an Oilers POV just because it doesnt help them soon, actually puts their plans back a bit.

Yak and Klefbom are likely to step in next season. Yak will have a year in the KHL for experience, Klefbom a few years being the top D man in his SEL club. They could have a good impact with the club next year.

Hamilton may be good, but if he even makes the NHL next year, he will just be tasting the mens league and will likely struggle, and the last thing we need is a struggling defender on the blue line (Also im not that high on Dougie ). The 1st also likely wont be an impact, and even if Subban turns out as good as Price, it will still be a few years atleast before he comes in and makes an impact.

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what would it take to get seguin?

BOS

seguin

EDM

Lander
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Omark

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what would it take to get seguin?

BOS

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Lander
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Boston wouldn't give you Paille for that sad package of misfit toys

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what about

BOS

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peckham
hemsky
2015 4th rounder

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BOS

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