I was shocked by how easily the 97 Marlies won Silver Sticks, especially against Compuware and rolling with only 4 D. I understand they have since picked up a 6th D to fill the rooster. I can only imagine it is so they don't wear out their 'regular' D. Does anyone have opinions on the Marlies rearguards? For example, are they 'good' prospects or are they just supported by a very good team.
Rearguards took a big hit this year without Capobianco and Schlickting. Both Top End prospects for this draft in my opinion. Seeing the team at the silverstick they seem to lack composure. Last year the 96 team had very little difficulty getting out of their own end. This years team seems to rely on a dump and chase approach they dont have the quarter back this year. Defarias came into this year top rated but havent heard how he is rated this season, maybe mapleaf has some input ??
Rearguards took a big hit this year without Capobianco and Schlickting. Both Top End prospects for this draft in my opinion. Seeing the team at the silverstick they seem to lack composure. Last year the 96 team had very little difficulty getting out of their own end. This years team seems to rely on a dump and chase approach they dont have the quarter back this year. Defarias came into this year top rated but havent heard how he is rated this season, maybe mapleaf has some input ??
He is good. Not as good as McKeown or DeSousa from the 96 team. Great skater, not much physicality, responsible defensive play. Don't think he is allowed to rush the puck. Very dysfunctional back end on this team because of the ridiculous nepotism. Gagne is not that good yet he gets the big minutes, PP and PK. I thought DeFarias should have become a !st rd pick this year but really isn't getting the chance because of the Gagne factor.
Rearguards took a big hit this year without Capobianco and Schlickting. Both Top End prospects for this draft in my opinion. Seeing the team at the silverstick they seem to lack composure. Last year the 96 team had very little difficulty getting out of their own end. This years team seems to rely on a dump and chase approach they dont have the quarter back this year. Defarias came into this year top rated but havent heard how he is rated this season, maybe mapleaf has some input ??
Luvtowatch and wingman u guys nailed it, no need to ask me. I agree with both your last few posts on the Dcore and there team. Defarias is still highly regarded, top 2 round pick, for sure. After him the only other player on that D core that interests me is Jordan Maclean. I see some interesting potential there. Cho and Gagne mid to late rounds I imagine. Im leaning more toward the late. Still early though, Marlies tourney, playoffs, ohl cup should sort alot of things out.
One thing that I think is important when looking at a Defenseman is watching to see who they are hitting. Are they trying to make statements on small guys who cant be found in the OHL? Ive noticed that alot D-men will only go after smaller players/forwards. They think they can over-power the smaller guys but dont try that with guys equal or bigger size. Thats why 2 of my favourite defenseman in the GTHL are Zach Wilkie and Jesse Saban because it doesnt matter what the other guy looks like to them, they go after u. Fregona, Rajic, Marner etc are having guys run at them all game long, but those same guys taking the runs at smaller players, dont go after M.Webb, Noah Jordan and Dunda etc, the same way. Players give N.Jordan too much room right now for his appearance alone, this wont happen in the OHL. Jordan will see that as a major change. Thats one of the things I liked about Jared Walsh last year, he was fearless.
He is good. Not as good as McKeown or DeSousa from the 96 team. Great skater, not much physicality, responsible defensive play. Don't think he is allowed to rush the puck. Very dysfunctional back end on this team because of the ridiculous nepotism. Gagne is not that good yet he gets the big minutes, PP and PK. I thought DeFarias should have become a !st rd pick this year but really isn't getting the chance because of the Gagne factor.
Desousa has gone backwards in Belleville and I believe he was a product of his environment and for that reason he was drafted high. But in Belleville, he is playing forward sometimes, and when he has the puck in their own end, OH BOY.
I dont mind Cho on the Marlies. No Marlie dman is a star, they just play a good system, and are all average. JMO
Desousa has gone backwards in Belleville and I believe he was a product of his environment and for that reason he was drafted high. But in Belleville, he is playing forward sometimes, and when he has the puck in their own end, OH BOY.
I dont mind Cho on the Marlies. No Marlie dman is a star, they just play a good system, and are all average. JMO
I sense a bone to be chewed with the 97 Marlies no pun intended. Previously anti Strome and Stephens posts now DeFarias is "average".
Sean Day was talked about on TSN tonight and they had more details on him.
Born in Belgium to Canadian parents and lived in Singapore a bit; already 6'3'' 195.
Brian Kilrea said he's the best fourteen year old player he's ever seen, and he saw Lindros, Gretzky, McDavid, and Tavares at that age.
Hockey Canada wants him in their program and it sounds very likely they'll be granting him exceptional status to do so.
DeFarias is a top 2 rd player. McLean is very steady. Cho should be better than what he is showing, decent. Gagne is average on his best day, coughs the puck up way too much and gets way too much icetime. ( Coach who shares the same last name thinks the kid is McKeown, LOL, he's not!) White, who came from AA is doing ok , Gu is another AA recruit isn't as good. In a nutshell there are a couple good prospects but not a great bunch considering this is an elite team. Against Compuware they had a 98 in the lineup named Pu who was clearly their 3rd best d-man.
Are one of the AA kids number 10? I don't think he saw one shift during the entire final vs Compuware.
Sean Day was talked about on TSN tonight and they had more details on him.
Born in Belgium to Canadian parents and lived in Singapore a bit; already 6'3'' 195.
Brian Kilrea said he's the best fourteen year old player he's ever seen, and he saw Lindros, Gretzky, McDavid, and Tavares at that age.
Hockey Canada wants him in their program and it sounds very likely they'll be granting him exceptional status to do so.
Desousa has gone backwards in Belleville and I believe he was a product of his environment and for that reason he was drafted high. But in Belleville, he is playing forward sometimes, and when he has the puck in their own end, OH BOY.
I dont mind Cho on the Marlies. No Marlie dman is a star, they just play a good system, and are all average. JMO
I don't think playing few shifts constitutes going backwards. Belleville does have older d-men so the kid doesn't get many shifts. I have watched some of their games and don't think he looks like a defensive liability, to me it looks like he is trying to be more responsible defensively. He did make the U-17 team.
I thought Cho would do better this year but hasn't improved really. Maybe playing with Gagne all the time doesn't help. DeFarias is way above average, McLean is also above average. I think their system sucks as it is all about showcasing Gagne.
Sorry Chewer, you and I are not on the same page here.
I dont think the OHL has one defenseman who possesses the top end speed that Sean Day has right now as a 14 yr old. I was thinking last night who is the fastest OHL D-man? I honestly think Sean Day could beat Morgan Reilly(WHL) in a race. Thoughts?
I don't think playing few shifts constitutes going backwards. Belleville does have older d-men so the kid doesn't get many shifts. I have watched some of their games and don't think he looks like a defensive liability, to me it looks like he is trying to be more responsible defensively. He did make the U-17 team.
I thought Cho would do better this year but hasn't improved really. Maybe playing with Gagne all the time doesn't help. DeFarias is way above average, McLean is also above average. I think their system sucks as it is all about showcasing Gagne.
Sorry Chewer, you and I are not on the same page here.
Agree ! I am sure starting the year with 4 defensemen had a lot to do with the teams poor start. Most D parents I assume would make a different decision if they could do it again. Tough to watch a father over play his son, seeing him as a star.
Hopefully the Marlies will do well over Christmas. Everyone seems to enjoy puting them down.
Oakville having the same problems this year. Tough to keep all the D happy, I am not sure if there is any parent influence there or not. More Top End prospects on that team then any other In My Opinion.
I dont think the OHL has one defenseman who possesses the top end speed that Sean Day has right now as a 14 yr old. I was thinking last night who is the fastest OHL D-man? I honestly think Sean Day could beat Morgan Reilly(WHL) in a race. Thoughts?
The propoganda has started, so you can almost guarentee exceptional status. There were some poignant comments made by Dreiger last night, referencing him as the best in a long time. Really havent seen alot of him, but the highlite they showed was something else.
Should be a great addition to Ottawa ?? with them losing Ceci, maybe it will push the 67s to blow up the year.
Agree ! I am sure starting the year with 4 defensemen had a lot to do with the teams poor start. Most D parents I assume would make a different decision if they could do it again. Tough to watch a father over play his son, seeing him as a star.
Hopefully the Marlies will do well over Christmas. Everyone seems to enjoy puting them down.
Oakville having the same problems this year. Tough to keep all the D happy, I am not sure if there is any parent influence there or not. More Top End prospects on that team then any other In My Opinion.
MY prediction for the Marlies Classic: I think Oakville will be in the Final at the Marlies Classic and win it. Team chemistry is vital for this team.
The propoganda has started, so you can almost guarentee exceptional status. There were some poignant comments made by Dreiger last night, referencing him as the best in a long time. Really havent seen alot of him, but the highlite they showed was something else.
Should be a great addition to Ottawa ?? with them losing Ceci, maybe it will push the 67s to blow up the year.
It was not intended as propoganda. It was meant for discussing, Its just a thought I have. I dont know the process that he has to go through seeing that he is playing in the US and is Canadien. Is there a technicality that the US can use to hold him back? If someone knows this process (Tigers1992) that would be great to know the ins and outs? Only a technicality in that process could prevent him in my opinion. Can I almost guarantee it? I could guarantee you that if Day played in Ontario he would get ES. He is more impressive than Ekblad at this age, to take nothing away from Ekblad. I think he is on par with MCdavid or maybe even a little more advanced. Another year of minor midget would be stalling his development. No one has ever skated or has this speed like this before in minor midget, coupled with a boatload of other skills.
It was not intended as propoganda. It was meant for discussing, Its just a thought I have. I dont know the process that he has to go through seeing that he is playing in the US and is Canadien. Is there a technicality that the US can use to hold him back? If someone knows this process (Tigers1992) that would be great to know the ins and outs? Only a technicality in that process could prevent him in my opinion. Can I almost guarantee it? I could guarantee you that if Day played in Ontario he would get ES. He is more impressive than Ekblad at this age, to take nothing away from Ekblad. I think he is on par with MCdavid or maybe even a little more advanced. Another year of minor midget would be stalling his development. No one has ever skated or has this speed like this before in minor midget, coupled with a boatload of other skills.
Sorry the wrong word "propoganda" but there was alot of media attention with McDavid. Although it was the best kept secret, once the media grabbed it, it was a forgone conclusion.
The process is complex and it will all come down to emotional maturity. After all the CHL is repsonsible if a young player who has all the talent in the world but has issues "upstairs". Remember Bryan Fogerty ?
It was not intended as propoganda. It was meant for discussing, Its just a thought I have. I dont know the process that he has to go through seeing that he is playing in the US and is Canadien. Is there a technicality that the US can use to hold him back? If someone knows this process (Tigers1992) that would be great to know the ins and outs? Only a technicality in that process could prevent him in my opinion. Can I almost guarantee it? I could guarantee you that if Day played in Ontario he would get ES. He is more impressive than Ekblad at this age, to take nothing away from Ekblad. I think he is on par with MCdavid or maybe even a little more advanced. Another year of minor midget would be stalling his development. No one has ever skated or has this speed like this before in minor midget, coupled with a boatload of other skills.
Dreger made it sound like any issues would be sorted out rather easily if he's really going to get ES.
What I've seen is that from the US standpoint, they just have to transfer his card.
Should be no reason for them to hold him back, as he doesn't hold any US citizenship and it looks like he isn't gaining citizenship and playing for them.
Dreger made it sound like any issues would be sorted out rather easily if he's really going to get ES.
What I've seen is that from the US standpoint, they just have to transfer his card.
Should be no reason for them to hold him back, as he doesn't hold any US citizenship and it looks like he isn't gaining citizenship and playing for them.
Sean Day's skating and skill is off the chart best skilled ES applicant rivaling McDavid. However McDavid’s IQ was a lot more advance need to see more.
I dont think the OHL has one defenseman who possesses the top end speed that Sean Day has right now as a 14 yr old. I was thinking last night who is the fastest OHL D-man? I honestly think Sean Day could beat Morgan Reilly(WHL) in a race. Thoughts?
I'm with you on that. He's the fastest on the ice and he's merely gliding. The only time I've really seem him turn on the jets he blew by everyone. He has the stride power of a 25 year old.
I don't think playing few shifts constitutes going backwards. Belleville does have older d-men so the kid doesn't get many shifts. I have watched some of their games and don't think he looks like a defensive liability, to me it looks like he is trying to be more responsible defensively. He did make the U-17 team.
I thought Cho would do better this year but hasn't improved really. Maybe playing with Gagne all the time doesn't help. DeFarias is way above average, McLean is also above average. I think their system sucks as it is all about showcasing Gagne.
Sorry Chewer, you and I are not on the same page here.
I understand that he gets minimal shifts in Belleville, but when he is on the ice, he seems lost. He plays forward many shifts.
I am impressed with the Marlies in the Silver Stick, and believe that they played as a well oiled machine/team. The team won the tournament, not an individual or 2.
I dont think DeFarias will be a 1st rounder. No one questioned Strome or Stephens wouldnt be first rounders. I opined that I felt they were in the range of #6-#10 overall picks in the draft.
I have no interest in any MM hockey player, and would love to see the Marlies win, as they were never considered heavily favourite in the pre season. I love underdog stories, and right now they are impressing as a TEAM.
I think alot of bloggers have personal interest and that is why they dont like to hear their horses being called out. Its a blog, and people have the right to spew their opinions.
Well 2 weeks ago I watched London and Elgin battle in a great 2-1 game, tonight was a bit different. The Chiefs crushed London 8-2 in a chippy game. I haven't had the chance to watch anyone outside of the Alliance, and I heard they didn't advance that far in Whitby, but this is a very talented and deep Elgin team. Curious to see how they do in a few weeks in Toronto.
Konecny really kept his cool late in the game and was never baited into retaliating, not once. And there were plenty of chances for him to do so.
Nice game from Drew Worrad who had 2 goals early on. Crouse really dominates at times, just so much bigger than everyone out there.
Szyupla from London showed some nice flashes of skill and had a goal, but starting to see what may keep him from being a top 25-30 pick. Lots of high risk offensive plays that are a bit too flashy, and good scoring chances simply go to waste.
Curious to see what the Alliance All Star game is like tomorrow.
Well 2 weeks ago I watched London and Elgin battle in a great 2-1 game, tonight was a bit different. The Chiefs crushed London 8-2 in a chippy game. I haven't had the chance to watch anyone outside of the Alliance, and I heard they didn't advance that far in Whitby, but this is a very talented and deep Elgin team. Curious to see how they do in a few weeks in Toronto.
Konecny really kept his cool late in the game and was never baited into retaliating, not once. And there were plenty of chances for him to do so.
Nice game from Drew Worrad who had 2 goals early on. Crouse really dominates at times, just so much bigger than everyone out there.
Szyupla from London showed some nice flashes of skill and had a goal, but starting to see what may keep him from being a top 25-30 pick. Lots of high risk offensive plays that are a bit too flashy, and good scoring chances simply go to waste.
Curious to see what the Alliance All Star game is like tomorrow.
My thoughts exactly. Elgin missed out in the Silver Stick playoffs because of goal differential, but they were one of the best teams in the round robin. They lost only 1 game to Compuware by 5-2 and it cost them.
Elgin and London can have 6-7 players in total drafted in the first round of the OHL draft.
If you add Oakville, Barrie and the Marlies, and those 5 teams should account for most of the first round selections??
The Upper Canada Cyclones might surprise a few teams at the Marlie Classic tournament.Keep an eye on #19 Neil Doef and #17 Shane Woolsey, Very talented kids and Doef might go 1st couple rounds of the draft.
