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12-12-2012, 05:47 PM
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could be, may make more sense than Shinkaruk with his experience and more gritty play
I'd like to see Rattie with Nuge and Huberdeau, move Scheifele back with Strome and Ritchie/Mackinnon.

I still think Ritchie can be a guy who can play on any line, so his versatility to be a banger is good.

Like I said earlier, this team needs finishers, Rattie is as elite of a finisher that Canada has at the junior level.

I think he and Nuge would slay.

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So are cuts tonight confirmed? If so does anyone know an approx them they might happen?

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12-12-2012, 05:49 PM
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Yeah, the cuts are confirmed. TSN posted a video on their website, and they said "about an hour from now".

I'm not sure when that video was put up, but you can bet the cuts will be within the hour.

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Hockey Canada has been watching these players for years. Under 17's, 18's, OHL games, camp during the summer. They don't base it on 2 days. They are trying to put together a group of players that can play roles, and come together as quick as possible. They also want consistency. Not all flash!

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12-12-2012, 05:50 PM
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Huberdeau - RNH - Scheifele
X - Strome - Ritchie
Hudon - Jenner - Danault
Graovac - McNeill - Wilson
MacKinnon

Rielly - Hamilton
Ouellet - Harrington
Reinhart - X
X

Subban
Paterson
Brossoit
I don't think any of the bolded are locks. Maybe McNeill due to Wilson's bad showing.

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Hopefully Ritchie can bring what Brendan Gallagher did last year, with a little more physicality. That type of player is so damn valuable.

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12-12-2012, 05:51 PM
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I don't think any of the bolded are locks. Maybe McNeill due to Wilson's bad showing.
Only way Ouelett doesn't make the team is if his ankle is worse then what is being reported right now.....He will be on the flight to Russia

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12-12-2012, 05:53 PM
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Here are my cuts:

DEFENCE:

-Pelech (Quite sure)
-Wotherspoon (Quite sure)
-Dumba (not so sure, but I think he will)

FORWARDS:

-Catenacci (Quite sure)
-Beauvillier (wasn't bad today, but too much competition)
-Monahan (hard to notice)
-Graovac (don't see where he fits in)

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12-12-2012, 05:54 PM
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There's a reason you can't base your opinions off these games only. A few of the players who sat today (Thus locks) didn't have good games yesterday.
That's a good thing for Murphy, because if he makes the team I feel it will be based more on reputation than what he has shown thus far. Those 4 D sitting are locks. There are only 3 spots left. There are questions when it comes to Murphy. Do you trust him to take a regular shift on the third pairing? Does this team actually need a PP specialist given some of the other selections? Would TC feel comfortable playing Murphy even more minutes if one of the top 4 gets injured?

I've always liked high risk/high reward defenseman. That's how I like to play myself. However, if his pros do not outweigh his cons, it isn't worth it to risk him being on the team.

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12-12-2012, 05:54 PM
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Here are my cuts:

DEFENCE:

-Pelech (Quite sure)
-Wotherspoon (Quite sure)
-Dumba (not so sure, but I think he will)

FORWARDS:

-Catenacci (Quite sure)
-Beauvillier (wasn't bad today, but too much competition)
-Monahan (hard to notice)
-Graovac (don't see where he fits in)
I love how no one is cutting lipon! either means u like what you see or you forgot about him, lol

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12-12-2012, 05:55 PM
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Lipon was noticeable, and showed a bit of chemistry with Mackinnon. Wasn't great, but the guys I had cut were even worse.

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12-12-2012, 05:57 PM
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That's a good thing for Murphy, because if he makes the team I feel it will be based more on reputation than what he has shown thus far. Those 4 D sitting are locks. There are only 3 spots left. There are questions when it comes to Murphy. Do you trust him to take a regular shift on the third pairing? Does this team actually need a PP specialist given some of the other selections? Would TC feel comfortable playing Murphy even more minutes if one of the top 4 gets injured?

I've always liked high risk/high reward defenseman. That's how I like to play myself. However, if his pros do not outweigh his cons, it isn't worth it to risk him being on the team.
Even better considering Spott thinks he is worth the risk and is probably his most vocal supporter.

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12-12-2012, 05:59 PM
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Expect cuts to begin in next 30 minutes or so.

https://twitter.com/TSNRyanRishaug/s...12316182360064

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12-12-2012, 06:01 PM
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So Beauvillier gets invited, everybody writes him off.

He plays well, and everyone still writes him off cause there is ''too much competition''?

Why would the Canada brass invite him if they know they are going to cut him right away even after a strong performance? It doesn't make sense.

If they invited him, and he impressed, he'll at least survive the first set of cuts.

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12-12-2012, 06:04 PM
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Lipon could be this years Tanner Peterson.

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12-12-2012, 06:05 PM
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So Beauvillier gets invited, everybody writes him off.

He plays well, and everyone still writes him off cause there is ''too much competition''?

Why would the Canada brass invite him if they know they are going to cut him right away even after a strong performance? It doesn't make sense.

If they invited him, and he impressed, he'll at least survive the first set of cuts.
Because no one has really stood out in good or bad ways.

To me the most out of place forward is Wilson, but people still want him around for physicality. Also it doesnt help that the guys who have played well Graovac and Ritchie are competing for similar spots as him

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12-12-2012, 06:06 PM
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Lipon could be this years Tanner Peterson.
I hate to be that guy, but it's Pearson.

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I would love to bits to see Lipon on the team. Everyone I know has banded around him as he's from the neighborhood.

Hopefully he steps up tomorrow.

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12-12-2012, 06:07 PM
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I said he wasn't bad. That doesn't mean he impressed/played well.

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12-12-2012, 06:12 PM
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If I had to make cuts I know Monahan, Dumba and Catenacci would be cut. Outside of that I have no idea.

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12-12-2012, 06:15 PM
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Huge praise by bobby mac just now on sportscenter on the other goalies and on corrado.

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12-12-2012, 06:17 PM
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It'll be a joke if Murphy makes it. He's having a bad season for an offensive guy and he had an even worse camp for an offensive guy. The only way he makes it is if Spott sticks out his neck to defend his star.

From what I saw, I don't really have an opinion on who else makes it. but Murphy absolutely shouldn't.

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12-12-2012, 06:18 PM
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Huberdeau-RNH-Scheifele
Ritchie-Strome-MacKinnon
Hudon-Jenner-Rattie
Camara-Danault-McNeill
extra: Drouin

Hamilton-Reilly
Harrington-Ouellet
Reinhart-Corrado
extra: Wotherspoon/Murphy

Subban
Brossoit
Patterson

MacKinnon has played way better than most forwards and he's earned a spot in the top 6 IMO. Drouin was making plays whenever he was on the ice. His vision and his ability to protect the puck is top notch. Perfect 13th forward.

Top 4 D is pretty concrete, leaving 3 spots up for grabs. Reinhart's ability to retrive the puck and get it out of the zone will be helpful, same with Corrado's skating ability. Murphy has looked average at best even paired with Griffin but he might get the #7 spot since Spott is his OHL coach and for PP reasons. Hoping Wotherspoon makes it because he's played better than Murphy and he can actually defend.

Goaltending is really hard to decide because both Brossoit and Patterson have been good, plus Subban

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12-12-2012, 06:22 PM
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It'll be a joke if Murphy makes it. He's having a bad season for an offensive guy and he had an even worse camp for an offensive guy. The only way he makes it is if Spott sticks out his neck to defend his star.

From what I saw, I don't really have an opinion on who else makes it. but Murphy absolutely shouldn't.
People who say incorrect things generally shouldn't talk.

Murphy's scoring % on Kitchener's goals is similar to Dougie's, who has 20 more points. You tell me what this means. I could but you might not like it.

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12-12-2012, 06:22 PM
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Huberdeau-RNH-Scheifele
Ritchie-Strome-MacKinnon
Hudon-Jenner-Rattie
Camara-Danault-McNeill
extra: Drouin

Hamilton-Reilly
Harrington-Ouellet
Reinhart-Corrado
extra: Wotherspoon/Murphy

Subban
Brossoit
Patterson

MacKinnon has played way better than most forwards and he's earned a spot in the top 6 IMO. Drouin was making plays whenever he was on the ice. His vision and his ability to protect the puck is top notch. Perfect 13th forward.

Top 4 D is pretty concrete, leaving 3 spots up for grabs. Reinhart's ability to retrive the puck and get it out of the zone will be helpful, same with Corrado's skating ability. Murphy has looked average at best even paired with Griffin but he might get the #7 spot since Spott is his OHL coach and for PP reasons. Hoping Wotherspoon makes it because he's played better than Murphy and he can actually defend.

Goaltending is really hard to decide because both Brossoit and Patterson have been good, plus Subban
Pretty much how I see it, though I'm torn between Graovac and Camara, perhaps Graovac gets a slight edge he's great on the PK and can sustain offensive pressure but I feel we need a Camara type on the team. Very hard decisions.

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