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12-12-2012, 09:23 PM
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Would never happen, but here's a crazy deal I thought of...

Toronto
Gunnarson
Kadri
1st

St. Louis
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Rattie/Jaskin
1st
Values not terrible, but we need the more defense oriented guys as Gunnarson is pretty much our only D first guy.

Kadri is slightly better then Rattie imho.

Our 1st is more valuable.

We downgrade about 15+ spots in the 1st round, trade away a few years of development with Kadri and lose our only Defensive dman for a good PWF who needs to show a little more consistency.

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12-12-2012, 09:25 PM
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Values not terrible, but we need the more defense oriented guys as Gunnarson is pretty much our only D first guy.

Kadri is slightly better then Rattie imho.

Our 1st is more valuable.

We downgrade about 15+ spots in the 1st round, trade away a few years of development with Kadri and lose our only Defensive dman for a good PWF who needs to show a little more consistency.
I strongly disagree on Kadri being better than Rattie.

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12-12-2012, 10:17 PM
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Yeah, but the Leafs have Reimer.
Ok you got me there

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12-13-2012, 06:40 AM
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Posting in here cause I know there's gotta somebody looking....

If the season is cancelled, when can deals be made? Is there a trade deadline? Or does there have to be a CBA in place still? Are all transactions/trades frozen until its met?
Trades can't be made without a CBA.

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12-13-2012, 07:22 AM
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12-13-2012, 07:28 AM
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Would never happen, but here's a crazy deal I thought of...

Toronto
Gunnarson
Kadri
1st

St. Louis
Stewart
Rattie/Jaskin
1st
i'd do this

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12-13-2012, 07:49 AM
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i'd do this
Why? It is a lateral move at best. At worst, the Leafs absolutely lose this deal if the first rounder turns out to be top 10.

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12-13-2012, 07:57 AM
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Why? It is a lateral move at best. At worst, the Leafs absolutely lose this deal if the first rounder turns out to be top 10.
i like the basis of the deal. A Gunnarsson-Stewart swap makes sense for both teams. Maybe the Leafs add a slight little.

We can keep the 1sts out. And Leafs can add a 2nd or a little sweetener to get it done

Gunnarson + Kadri + 2nd
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Stewart + Rattie

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12-13-2012, 08:00 AM
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Oh no...That 1st is what interests me. lol

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12-13-2012, 08:29 AM
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Why? It is a lateral move at best. At worst, the Leafs absolutely lose this deal if the first rounder turns out to be top 10.
What do YOU think hes worth? I see you defending him throughout this entire thread.

Kadri is still young enough where hes not a bust obviously, but you have to admit you expected a bit more out of him up to this point when he was drafted.

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12-13-2012, 08:52 AM
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Oh no...That 1st is what interests me. lol
If that trade comes through, you'll have Blues fans chanting Thank you Stewart when Mackinnon, Jones or Barkov score against the Leafs next year. I doubt Burke will risk a repeat of the Kessel disaster.


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12-13-2012, 09:02 AM
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If that trade comes through, you'll have Blues fans chanting Thank you Stewart when Mackinnon, Jones or Barkov score against the Leafs next year. I doubt Burke will risk a repeat of the Kessel disaster.
lol, yet some Leafs fans like it

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12-13-2012, 09:21 AM
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lol, yet some Leafs fans like it
I've said it in the Luongo thread....the shorter this season gets, the more we need to hang on to our 1st.

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12-13-2012, 09:44 AM
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I've said it in the Luongo thread....the shorter this season gets, the more we need to hang on to our 1st.
Absolutely. A top-5 pick is more likely if we don't play than if we do.

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12-13-2012, 09:46 AM
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Why would we trade for 2 more wingers? Doesn't make any sense for us..

Replace Stewart and Rattie with Halak then deal

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12-13-2012, 09:53 AM
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What do YOU think hes worth? I see you defending him throughout this entire thread.

Kadri is still young enough where hes not a bust obviously, but you have to admit you expected a bit more out of him up to this point when he was drafted.
I'm assuming you're talking about the fact he hasn't yet made the NHL? That's what you would expect at this point?

Kadri is doing just fine. He's improved every year and in fact last season he improved almost every time he came back up to the Leafs, to the point where he was one of the best puck possession players on the Leafs when he was up there.

Him up on the team would be useless up to this point. Wilson wasn't willing to give him a top 6 spot and it would make little sense to have him on the third line.

He'll be fine.

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12-13-2012, 11:09 AM
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i like the basis of the deal. A Gunnarsson-Stewart swap makes sense for both teams. Maybe the Leafs add a slight little.

We can keep the 1sts out. And Leafs can add a 2nd or a little sweetener to get it done

Gunnarson + Kadri + 2nd
for
Stewart + Rattie
I'd push for Jaskin.

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12-13-2012, 11:19 AM
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I'm assuming you're talking about the fact he hasn't yet made the NHL? That's what you would expect at this point?

Kadri is doing just fine. He's improved every year and in fact last season he improved almost every time he came back up to the Leafs, to the point where he was one of the best puck possession players on the Leafs when he was up there.

Him up on the team would be useless up to this point. Wilson wasn't willing to give him a top 6 spot and it would make little sense to have him on the third line.

He'll be fine.
When he was drafted did you expect him to not have a full time NHL spot by the time by the end of his third professional season? Thats my point. Not saying its a bad thing either, people develop at different rates on different teams.

He will be fine, never said or thought anything different. I'd give up our first (assuming its on the later side) for him in a heartbeat. I was more responding to the other poster who seems to defend Kadri mercilessly.

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12-13-2012, 02:20 PM
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I'd push for Jaskin.
Not a chance we'd do that deal though. The Blues fans don't even like the Gunnarson and a 2nd for Stewart deal. That 1st is what interests me...Gunnarson and Kadri are kind of side pieces to me...Then the Blues have an option with a good pick where they could do a D'agostini, Cole, and a 1st for a really good left handed d-man or a strong center.

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12-13-2012, 02:42 PM
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So a player doing badly under a Hitchcock system should be traded to a team with Randy Carlyle as coach? Stewart won't make it in TO. Kris Versteeg 2.0.

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Colin Wilson ?
Colin Wilson for Kadri and Bozak? Im down.

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