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Metro Seattle: NHL, NBA and Arena - Part V

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11-16-2012, 05:18 PM
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Actually, no he didn't. Probably didn't have a pen in his jockstrap. LOL
That's too bad. BTW, much of the business he does these days with his rink concerns youth hockey. So you know, this rink was at one time a grocery store and is located close to about four different schools in two school districts, and draws a huge clientele from all over the Eastside, even though their location seems to be a bit off the beaten path.

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I forgot about Sprinker, but do they have organized youth hockey based out of there? I don't know if they do; I thought it was more for figure skating, etc.
They do

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11-17-2012, 01:19 AM
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boom! We have concept drawings of the arena.

http://www.king5.com/news/arena/Firs...179694741.html

http://media.king5.com/images/SODO_A...t_design_h.jpg

Concept of what it would look like for hockey.
These are just prototypes not final.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/113525886/...-early-designs

design presentation for the early design review meeting at the end month
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An environmental impact study must be completed and Hansen, a Seattle native, must secure a team to be a tenant for the arena before construction can begin
So will it be a basketball team or an NHL team that will be secured first in order for the construction to begin?

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11-17-2012, 01:40 AM
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And by the way to those of you putting info out about local rinks, thank you for giving me a little new knowledge. And certainly bolstering the case for why this market should be able to support the NHL when it makes its way here.
You're welcome.

(Disclaimer: I lived on Long Island, NY during the Islanders' Stanley Cup era and attended a few Buffalo Sabres games when I lived in Rochester, NY. in the mid-late 1990s. It will be very interesting to see if an NHL team does arrive in Seattle in the next few years, lockouts notwithstanding.)


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11-17-2012, 02:54 AM
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So will it be a basketball team or an NHL team that will be secured first in order for the construction to begin?
According to the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU), an NBA team would need to be secured first in order for the arena construction to begin.

More information:

SODO Arena Proposal/Seattle.gov

MOU (.pdf)


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11-20-2012, 07:31 PM
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Thanks for that info. I did not realize there were 13 rinks in the Puget Sound. I was only familiar with Sno-King, the Kent Valley rink, and Huscroft's deal, Castle Ice out towards Liberty High School east of Renton. Where are the others all located?
Main adult rec-league in Seattle: http://www.gshockey.com. The league has 18 divisions of 4-8 teams in each.

Rinks: (north to south)
Comcast Arena (Everett)- where the WHL silvertips play. occasionally available for the GSHL and public skate
Everett Comcast Community Ice - in same building as Comcast Arena. Open skating daily & many GSHL games
Lynwood Ice Center - public, GSHL and other hockey use
Olympic View Arena (Mountlake terrace) - Olympic sized ice figure skating & multiple hockey groups use. UW club hockey. No public skating. Seattle Jr Hockey
Highland Ice Arena (Shoreline) - 2 sheets (regular & small sized), public & hockey use. Only rink north of Tacoma not used by GSHL.
Kingsgate Ice Arena (Kirkland) - public & various hockey use. Former T-birds practice ice. Run by SnoKing (Huscroft's group)
Key Arena - former home of WHL Thunderbirds. Occasionally ice is available for public use (in winter time) but rarely used anymore
Castle Ice (Renton) - 2 sheets (regular & small sized) public & hockey use. Run by SnoKing (Huscroft's group)
Kent Valley Ice Center - public & hockey use. Only rink with a restaurant/bar.
Showare Center (Kent) - where WHL Thunderbirds play. Minimal public use.
Puget Sound Hockey Center (Tacoma) - public and local hockey use. Apollo Ohno & short track speed skating here. Tacoma Jr Hockey. In old port warehouse.
Sprinker Rec Center (Tacoma/Spanaway) - public & local hockey use
Bremerton Ice Arena - across Puget Sound from Seattle with public & local hockey use

*All links take you to the arena's website.

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12-04-2012, 11:32 PM
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More recent concept designs (as of 11/30/2012).

Disclaimer: As noted in the article, these are prototypes and not the final product.

KING 5 article:
http://www.king5.com/news/arena/City...181616451.html

Scribd document "Early Design Guidance"
http://www.scribd.com/doc/115077451/...Arena-Proposal

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12-05-2012, 06:32 AM
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I like option 1 much more than option 2.

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I can see why the third option is preferred. The "front porch" design is quite dramatic from an aerial & street level view.


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12-05-2012, 10:35 AM
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Agreed. That option looks pretty neat to me.

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Looks incredibly tacky IMO but to each their own.

Option 2 would be my preference.

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As a Canucks fan I'm pumped. If Seattle plays 4 home games against Vancouver, that's 4 sellouts. Montreal and Toronto probably sellout. Calgary and Edmonton would be a decent draw. So basically 20% of the home schedule with solid draws.

Seattle is a great sports town when they get behind a team. A third stadium in this area will probably bump the development even faster than it currently is going and really revitalize Seattle.

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I'm laughing at ILWU attorney.

Listening to his lawyer BS drivel all i got was, "How dare they market a privately funded arena by releasing concept designs hoping to market the idea to the public and council. This isn't a free country. You first need to kiss our ass and buy us off before you can do anything. It's not fair. CRY CRY CRY...."

yeah, I mean I don't hate Unions when they're doing their basic rights, it's admirable. But when they start becoming a strong arm lobby group and pushing everyone around, they lose me.

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I can see why the third option is preferred. The "front porch" design is quite dramatic from an aerial & street level view.

I'm not sure if that's a yacht or a palace or a palatial yacht. All I know is I want it to exist.

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12-13-2012, 12:04 PM
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More designs (prototypes):
KING-TV article

Arena Proposal: the addendum, dated December 7, 2012, starts at pages 72/73. (.pdf)

In addition, more concerns on the arena proposal from the Seattle Mariners and Amtrak.

Sportspress Northwest

Seattle Times

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The Mariners should focus on bringing someone into their lineup who can actually hit higher than .260 ...

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Or get intelligent and actually move their outfield walls in a bit. The cavern they play in is hard for anyone to hit at. Look what Adrian Beltre has done since he left.

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Or get intelligent and actually move their outfield walls in a bit. The cavern they play in is hard for anyone to hit at. Look what Adrian Beltre has done since he left.
They are moving the walls in.

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Wow so you can literally move the goal posts in baseball?

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Wow so you can literally move the goal posts in baseball?


There are not goal posts. Just walls. They tear them down and then build them back at the place where the new dimensions are.

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As a Canucks fan I'm pumped. If Seattle plays 4 home games against Vancouver, that's 4 sellouts.
We really do need to secure our borders...

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More designs (prototypes):
KING-TV article

Arena Proposal: the addendum, dated December 7, 2012, starts at pages 72/73. (.pdf)

In addition, more concerns on the arena proposal from the Seattle Mariners and Amtrak.

Sportspress Northwest

Seattle Times
The next presentation on the Seattle Arena designs is tentatively scheduled for Tuesday, January 22.

(From the city of Seattle's website.)

Also, in a December 20th Tacoma News Tribune article, a Chicago-based consultant informed a city council committee that it would be highly unlikely that an NBA or NHL team would end up playing at the 30-year-old Tacoma Dome for various reasons. The Tacoma Dome feasibility study was commissioned by the city of Tacoma at a cost of $95,000.

Tacoma News Tribune article:
NBA, NHL in Tacoma? Not likely at the Dome, consultant tells council


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Seattle has the corporate support to make the NHL work. If they had a new arena five years ago they never would have lost the NBA and could have had an NHL team by now as well. Seattle would not only get fans from northern WA and of course BC who can't get to see Canucks games, they also have a base of hockey fans from WHL cities such as Everett, Portland and Spokane to draw from. And let's not forget the base of hockey fans from the Seattle Thunderbirds, either. Both the NHL and WHL can co-exist because they cater to different price points in the entertainment market (and the T-Birds arena is located between Seattle and Tacoma, so they draw from other parts of the greater Puget Sound area)

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There's a nice rink/center in Edmonds still, I think.

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Latest Seattle arena news

http://www.king5.com/news/arena/Seat...185630122.html

For anyone interested, this piece of news as per Chris Daniels of another Hansen land purchase.

Also, and this is probably worth a separate thread, but the Sacramento Bee is reporting the Virginia Beach mayor has set a deadline of next week for a lease to be signed with an NBA team for their proposed new arena or that deal will be set aside for this year. (Here's the article: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/01/04/509...-deadline.html)

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