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12-13-2012, 11:27 AM
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For the life of me, I'm no offensive dynamo. But I can not make anything happen with Giroux. Marchand should be on my franchise list instead!

Claude Giroux: 20 GP, 11P.
Luke Schenn: 20 GP, 9P.

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12-13-2012, 11:42 AM
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For the life of me, I'm no offensive dynamo. But I can not make anything happen with Giroux. Marchand should be on my franchise list instead!

Claude Giroux: 20 GP, 11P.
Luke Schenn: 20 GP, 9P.

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Giroux
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12-13-2012, 11:58 AM
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Giroux
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I'd like to move him this block or next. Want to post it up?

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12-13-2012, 12:03 PM
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I'd like to move him this block or next. Want to post it up?
I can't trade anymore this season

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12-13-2012, 12:04 PM
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I'd like to move him this block or next. Want to post it up?
Damn you salary cap.


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12-13-2012, 12:07 PM
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I can't trade anymore this season
Too bad!

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12-13-2012, 12:11 PM
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Too bad!
This past off season I focused on D and now this next off season I think I should focus on offense. I need a offensive superstar on my team.

Edit:I think both of the dmen I acquired both have around the same points as Giroux

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12-13-2012, 12:20 PM
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This past off season I focused on D and now this next off season I think I should focus on offense. I need a offensive superstar on my team.

Edit:I think both of the dmen I acquired both have around the same points as Giroux
But I thought you had Shinkaruk?

And yes, they also appear to be helping you be a top 10 team in GAPG.

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12-13-2012, 12:25 PM
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I'd like to move him this block or next. Want to post it up?
are you even allowed to trade giroux? franchise rule?

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12-13-2012, 12:29 PM
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But I thought you had Shinkaruk?

And yes, they also appear to be helping you be a top 10 team in GAPG.
Yeah I'm still trying to find a spot for hunter to be productive lol. And while they're +/- is abysmal they're helping my offense take strides forward considering all my dmen last season had like 15pts in 80 games. Now Wisnewski, tyutin, summers and McNabb all are on pace for 40-50pt seasons.

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12-13-2012, 12:31 PM
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are you even allowed to trade giroux? franchise rule?
I assumed he was kidding?

But yeah, I think Giroux pretty clearly fits the Crosby, (Malkin), Stamkos-type category--players who we really, really don't want to see moved from their teams.

Giroux can be a tricky player to get used to in this game. He doesn't have Datsyuk's strength on his skates, and I've never had a great deal of luck using him in traffic.

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12-13-2012, 12:32 PM
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I assumed he was kidding?

But yeah, I think Giroux pretty clearly fits the Crosby, (Malkin), Stamkos-type category--players who we really, really don't want to see moved from their teams.

Giroux can be a tricky player to get used to in this game. He doesn't have Datsyuk's strength on his skates, and I've never had a great deal of luck using him in traffic.
cant really win faceoffs either lol

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12-13-2012, 12:35 PM
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cant really win faceoffs either lol
God. This.

I get the most out of Giroux at C, the problem is, his faceoff rating is 67. The only time I win faceoffs using him is online versus where people have terrible timing, unfortunately that doesn't happen in this league so I usually stick him on RW.

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12-13-2012, 12:36 PM
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God. This.

I get the most out of Giroux at C, the problem is, his faceoff rating is 67. The only time I win faceoffs using him is online versus where people have terrible timing, unfortunately that doesn't happen in this league so I usually stick him on RW.
yeah I stick him on wing when I've had him too lol Malkin is another bad faceoff guy I've encountered. When using Giroux i almost automatically know I'm losing the draw lol

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12-13-2012, 12:38 PM
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God. This.

I get the most out of Giroux at C, the problem is, his faceoff rating is 67. The only time I win faceoffs using him is online versus where people have terrible timing, unfortunately that doesn't happen in this league so I usually stick him on RW.
I've heard, but never confirmed, that playing a player out of position can hinder their development. No idea if it is true, and, at this point, I don't know if Giroux has POT left, so it might not matter.

Maybe I'll run a few online sims to test this. Put Giroux at RW for two years. Then try him at C for two years. See if his faceoff rating improves at all.

Should have been at least 70 to start with.

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12-13-2012, 12:47 PM
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I've heard, but never confirmed, that playing a player out of position can hinder their development. No idea if it is true, and, at this point, I don't know if Giroux has POT left, so it might not matter.

Maybe I'll run a few online sims to test this. Put Giroux at RW for two years. Then try him at C for two years. See if his faceoff rating improves at all.

Should have been at least 70 to start with.
it doesn't matter, I ran stamkos and giroux as wingers they stayed in their 90s. Also put Galchenyuk at wing in my current dynasty, reaches an 88

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12-13-2012, 12:48 PM
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it doesn't matter, I ran stamkos and giroux as wingers they stayed in their 90s. Also put Galchenyuk at wing in my current dynasty, reaches an 88
good god, what year is that? he's still just a 66 in TBC

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12-13-2012, 12:49 PM
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it doesn't matter, I ran stamkos and giroux as wingers they stayed in their 90s. Also put Galchenyuk at wing in my current dynasty, reaches an 88
Those sound like offline numbers, though, right? At least on Galchenyuk. It is highly unlikely that he will break 80 in this league...

Anyway, my question wasn't really their OV ratings. It was whether position specific attributes (e.g., faceoffs) progressed differently depending on where the player spent most of his time.

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12-13-2012, 12:50 PM
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I've heard, but never confirmed, that playing a player out of position can hinder their development. No idea if it is true, and, at this point, I don't know if Giroux has POT left, so it might not matter.

Maybe I'll run a few online sims to test this. Put Giroux at RW for two years. Then try him at C for two years. See if his faceoff rating improves at all.

Should have been at least 70 to start with.
Yeah, he actually starts at 65, so he went up 2 from last season. I played him pretty exclusively at RW last season. I'd definitely be interested in your findings!

This season:

Giroux - 74/167 FOW: 44%, look out Patrice Bergeron!
Wilson is at 59%, Talbot at 54%, Fisher 51%, Schenn is even better at 47% even though that's still crappy!

Unfortunately Giroux keeps getting shifted back to C during injuries in my sims. I can't imagine I've taken more than 10-20 faceoffs with him this year.

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12-13-2012, 12:56 PM
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good god, what year is that? he's still just a 66 in TBC
its like 6 years in I think lol and yes it was offline.

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Advance changed to 11pm Central tonight. A few people still have exams and havn't been able to get their games in.

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So basically Gary is asking this...

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Does anyone want my Center who makes $10.5 mil/season? Oh and i should mention, he cant score or win faceoffs


Giroux for Toews + Kane + RNH?

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12-13-2012, 01:26 PM
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So basically Gary is asking this...





Giroux for Toews + Kane + RNH?
But I already traded RNH to you because I hate all things Oilers. How about you just let me change Marchand to my franchise forward instead of Giroux?!

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But I already traded RNH to you because I hate all things Oilers. How about you just let me change Marchand to my franchise forward instead of Giroux?!
Anyone who graces a nhl cover = automatically franchise player lol

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yeah I stick him on wing when I've had him too lol Malkin is another bad faceoff guy I've encountered. When using Giroux i almost automatically know I'm losing the draw lol
What he lacks in faceoffs, he makes up for everywhere else.

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