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12-13-2012, 08:46 AM
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We'll see what Rask can do when shouldering the starters load, until then....
He played 45 games in 09/10 and had a very successful season. Do you really think he wont be able to? In all likelihood he would have played 55-60~ games this year and Khudobin the other. Call me a homer, but I don't think an extra 10 games would be too bad.

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12-13-2012, 08:47 AM
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He played 45 games in 09/10 and had a very successful season. Do you really think he wont be able to? In all likelihood he would have played 55-60~ games this year and Khudobin the other. Call me a homer, but I don't think an extra 10 games would be too bad.
Wasn't knocking him. I will openly admit TO boned that 1. I just think there will be a little more pressure without having Thomas behind him.

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12-13-2012, 08:52 AM
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Wasn't knocking him. I will openly admit TO boned that 1. I just think there will be a little more pressure without having Thomas behind him.
Yeah you're right, I thought you meant it as more of a fatigue thing.

I'll be interested to see what happens with Rask (if they ever play again).

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12-13-2012, 08:59 AM
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Yeah you're right, I thought you meant it as more of a fatigue thing.

I'll be interested to see what happens with Rask (if they ever play again).
Well, if there's ever a question about his drive or heart...just check the video were he's chucking milkcrates onto the ice after a couple of bad shootout goals.

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12-13-2012, 09:06 AM
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I'm not sure Burke would hesitate. So what if they do not share the same opinion? Maybe he would respect TT for standing up and speaking for what he believes in, which I believe to be more in line with Burke's character.

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12-13-2012, 09:14 AM
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If this season is lost is Thomas a Free agent? If he is, perhaps we could simply sign him than. He could be a great mentor for Reimer. Plus he'd be in Canada so no more schnanigans with American politics
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12-13-2012, 09:18 AM
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I'm not sure Burke would hesitate. So what if they do not share the same opinion? Maybe he would respect TT for standing up and speaking for what he believes in, which I believe to be more in line with Burke's character.
Adults should be able to put aside political/personal views at the workplace. Plain and simple.

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Would TT visit the PM's office when the Leafs win the Cup?
Thomas may be a pro athlete, but I'm pretty sure he won't be alive in the year 6257.

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12-13-2012, 12:21 PM
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If Thomas is still a great goalie (after doing god knows what during the lockout) then the Leafs should put aside anything else and sign him. Believe it or not, not everyone in the Leafs organization has the same political views, and they havent killed each other.

Andrew Ference is as far left as you can possibly get, and he still defended TT on every single play despite TTs conservatism (radicalism?).

For what it's worth, 'radicalism' is a trait best applied to left-wingers. The term for right-wingers generally is 'reactionary'.

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12-13-2012, 12:40 PM
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For what it's worth, 'radicalism' is a trait best applied to left-wingers. The term for right-wingers generally is 'reactionary'.
Not necessarily true.

The word "radical" isn't limited to strictly the left side. Maybe I should have been more specific, but the term "radical" can mean anything very different than the norm, such as extremist, etc. "Radical right" is even a well known term.

The term "radicalism" is generally known as a lefty word, yes, but the word "radical" (which i meant) is basically something that is far far from the norm (which is exactly what Tim Thomas is, obviously ).

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12-13-2012, 12:47 PM
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Luongo is a hot house flower who wilted when faced with the biggest games of his career. Thomas carried an inferior team on his back and won a title. Who was the better teammate? The guy who won and took all the pressure or the guy who whined, folded, complained and wanted his tires pumped?
Oh media, how it can twist the perceptions by the public so easily. I suggest you read the entire quote without bias.

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Not necessarily true.

The word "radical" isn't limited to strictly the left side. Maybe I should have been more specific, but the term "radical" can mean anything very different than the norm, such as extremist, etc. "Radical right" is even a well known term.

The term "radicalism" is generally known as a lefty word, yes, but the word "radical" (which i meant) is basically something that is far far from the norm (which is exactly what Tim Thomas is, obviously ).


Sure, there's the term 'radical right', but it's a term birthed by liberal special interest groups and a large part of the media.

The 'radical' right exists much like 4-leafed clovers exist. If one goes hunting for them, he'll probably find a handful, but he'll also come across far more 'reactionary' right and 3-leafed clovers during his search.

As far as interchanging 'extreme' with 'radical', I wouldn't do it...not with political matters at least. It's just too easy to be misunderstood if you do.

There is no 'norm' when it comes to national US politics. Centrism(if that's how you define 'norm')fled the national US political scene decades ago. Thomas, Obama, Romney, and the others are all just different facets on the fringes of the US politics.

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12-13-2012, 01:58 PM
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Sure, there's the term 'radical right', but it's a term birthed by liberal special interest groups and a large part of the media.

The 'radical' right exists much like 4-leafed clovers exist. If one goes hunting for them, he'll probably find a handful, but he'll also come across far more 'reactionary' right and 3-leafed clovers during his search.

As far as interchanging 'extreme' with 'radical', I wouldn't do it...not with political matters at least. It's just too easy to be misunderstood if you do.

There is no 'norm' when it comes to national US politics. Centrism(if that's how you define 'norm')fled the national US political scene decades ago. Thomas, Obama, Romney, and the others are all just different facets on the fringes of the US politics.
I think you are pretty far off base by saying the centrism as you call it left the US decades ago. Obama and the people who are like him are centerist, a radical left winger is about as far from Obama as Obama is from Romney.

As a radical lefty I can tell you that I think Obama is practically a republican and his policies in a lot of ways are more conservative than Nixon's were. If Obama is a socialist as the right wing extremists say, then Nixon was what? A communist?

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Would this be a better option then luongo and what would it take
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No it wouldn't considering Thomas isn't planning on playing this season.
and Thomas does not have much left in him

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Pfft. Why do you think the Canucks couldn't score? A big reason is because Thomas was denying the barrage of shots he faced. Even in the games he lost, he kept his team in it to the very end. The Sedin's magically stop scoring when playing against Thomas? Hmmmm.
More classic unmisremembering. Thomas played well, by he didn't carry the Bruins anywhere. They lost ALL THREE close games.

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Thomas isn't the answer for Toronto. Ideally someone who can grow with the team and maybe hit his peak in a couple years should be targeted. Unfortunately thats a mighty short list as of right now. Trade deadline day could have been a decent opportunity should a contender need some help elsewhere. Patience will be the key here, Burke(or possibly his successor) should resist the big name fading lights and either get the younger option or simply use cash to purchase a bandaid and try to develop from within. Theres a long way to go before the Leafs should contemplate moves such as the ones being thrown around here.

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Like him or not, there is no denying his talent. Thomas is an elite goaltender, 2-time Vezina winner, Cup winner, Conn Smythe winner. He'd be starting on the majority of teams in the NHL. If Thomas decided to play this season, Burke would be foolish not to inquire, Leafs have a huge vacancy between the pipes.
The Leafs don't need a one year solution net. They certainly would be moronic to give up anything for a 38m year old bandaid that isn't going to fix what is wrong. None of Thomas' previous accomplishments help the Leafs next season.

TO is 3 years from being relevant and 3.1 year from proving I was wrong.

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As a random guess, TT doesn't seem like a guy poised to move his family to gunless, socialist Canada unless it's in an 1812 re-enactment.
I don't know... I mean, he played in Sweden for a year.

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I don't know... I mean, he played in Sweden for a year.
Maybe that's what did it to him.

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The Leafs don't need a one year solution net. They certainly would be moronic to give up anything for a 38m year old bandaid that isn't going to fix what is wrong. None of Thomas' previous accomplishments help the Leafs next season.

TO is 3 years from being relevant and 3.1 year from proving I was wrong.
LOL...and yet all of Luongo's previous accomplishments (none of which include a Vezina,Conn Smythe or Stanley cup i might add) have been paraded over and over as the reason Burke should deal 4 young pieces including the 1st. Ironic.

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i wonder what Tim's view is on Toronto's version of Tebow (Reimer)...

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12-13-2012, 02:39 PM
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Sure, there's the term 'radical right', but it's a term birthed by liberal special interest groups and a large part of the media.

The 'radical' right exists much like 4-leafed clovers exist. If one goes hunting for them, he'll probably find a handful, but he'll also come across far more 'reactionary' right and 3-leafed clovers during his search.

As far as interchanging 'extreme' with 'radical', I wouldn't do it...not with political matters at least. It's just too easy to be misunderstood if you do.

There is no 'norm' when it comes to national US politics. Centrism(if that's how you define 'norm')fled the national US political scene decades ago. Thomas, Obama, Romney, and the others are all just different facets on the fringes of the US politics.
You're being far too literal when it comes to your definition of "norm." Of course theres no norm, because everyone has different opinions, but people can differentiate between crazy liberals/conservaties (which I called radicals) and normal ones (norms).

All I meant was, (because this is a hockey message board, not a hardcore political forum), is Thomas is radical in the "fleeing hockey and building a doomsday bunker" sense. Radical, as a word in the English dictionary quite literally means favoring drastic reforms of *anything,* not just politically motivated.

Believe me, being exposed greatly to the US political system I do not need to be schooled on it, nor do I want to discuss it any further (as this is once again, a hockey message board), but my overall point was Thomas isn't normal. Hell, who was the last person to leave hockey in that fashion? Thats all I was saying.

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Why would he want to move to a socialist country?

(serious question)

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Ummm, well....he's a hockey player, and i've heard we play a little hockey here.

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Maybe that's what did it to him.


Good point!

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