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12-13-2012, 03:26 PM
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What other choice does he have? The NHL gave them another take-it-or-leave-it proposal and they say they are done negotiating. Both sides know the Owners won't cancel the season given how close the sides actually are, so why not wait until the drop-dead date (whenever that is) and see if the Owners bend a little on their current demands.
Pretty much bang on, IMO. The NHL took its last shot at dividing the players in last weeks' orchestrated performance by Bettman and the owners. At this point both sides pretty much know that neither side is going to cave so we are stuck waiting until the final day they have in mind. Whatever that may be.

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12-13-2012, 03:26 PM
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Fehr going to talk in 5 minutes...

Renaud Lavoie @RenLavoieRDS:
NHLPA to talk in 5 minutes.

https://twitter.com/renlavoierds/sta...36457909465089

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12-13-2012, 03:26 PM
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Fehr will make a brief stetement shortly

Again?

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12-13-2012, 03:27 PM
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What a freaking flippin disaster this is.

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Fehr will make a brief stetement shortly

Again?
blah, blah, blah. Unless it's to say "we have a deal", I don't care.

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12-13-2012, 03:28 PM
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Filing for disclamer of interest?

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Oh, Steve, not Donald...

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It will be Steve Fehr and sorry my spelling is so atrocious lately

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"No progress made blah blah blah. **** you, fans."

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Fehr will make a brief stetement shortly

Again?
Fehr: "The mediation went well and I believe we almost have a deal..."
Ring! Ring! Ring!
"Oh wait, I need to answer my phone..."

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12-13-2012, 03:29 PM
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I don't think it'll be too bad. Probably just "nothing is happening right now"

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If it's Steve it should be an inconsequential address unless he's announcing that the PA have thrown Donald to the kerb and made him the boss.

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Fehr can shove a sock in it. I ain't interested in hearing what he, Daly, Bettman, S. Fehr, Batterman or anyone else in the NHLPA has to say. Doesn't interest me.

I'm at the point where I'm angry as heck that they're not even trying to get anything done. Both sides.

Your words mean nothing, and nobody is listening.

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Fehr will make a brief stetement shortly
Oh, goody. Can't wait to hear this one.

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12-13-2012, 03:30 PM
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Taking this to the courts is Fehr's last means of aggressive negotiating.

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12-13-2012, 03:31 PM
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Taking this to the courts is Fehr's last means of aggressive negotiating.
Let him try that. Owners won't budge.

Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice:
So, Bob Batterman represented NHL at today's meeting with mediator at NHLPA's request. Interesting.

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Huh?

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No progress would be the statement.

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You're right, though that's a detail and I knew it. I simply picked a poor player example. But the spirit of my post remains the same. Seguin is young enough to sign a 10 year deal, and he ought to be able to do it.

I see this more principally though. I hate the idea of adding regulation into any marketplace, regardless of whether it's obviously not a free market. This contract limit issue is being pushed by owners to help them govern themselves. Big market profiteers like Jacobs don't want to increase revenue share much, or worse yet, bail out smaller teams who have no option but to guarantee long-term deals in order to match compete with offers from big-market teams.

I'll ask the same questions I posed before:

Why can't the owners allow teams to pay salary in trade? Or trade prospects ofr cap space? Why not opt for measures like this to help bail out teams rather than unilaterally impose regulation that adversely affects players?
Both sides have already agreed to trading salary but it is limited to 4 million per team.

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12-13-2012, 03:32 PM
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Looks like Fehr has some words for us

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12-13-2012, 03:32 PM
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Steve Fehr: "I touched base with Bill by email",

Did he say anything else?

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12-13-2012, 03:32 PM
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John Shannon @JSportsnet:
I've been told no change in positions following today's Fehr/Batterman mediation session. #tickticktick

https://twitter.com/jsportsnet/statu...37849906683905

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12-13-2012, 03:33 PM
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They'll talk again tomorrow!

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Steve Fehr a dit que les deux parties se sont parlés aujourd'hui en présence du médiateur. Demain les deux parties vont se parler.

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12-13-2012, 03:33 PM
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Lavoie: Two sides will talk tomorrow

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Good I guess?

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12-13-2012, 03:33 PM
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I've been told no change in positions following today's Fehr/Batterman mediation session. #tickticktick
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Like I said... a COMPLETE waste of time.

Only silver lining.. RNH will more than likely be on the plane to Russia now for the WJC

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12-13-2012, 03:33 PM
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They basically have four weeks to get this done.

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12-13-2012, 03:34 PM
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Odd that all of the players that I follow are silent today..... omen? coincidence?

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