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12-14-2012, 11:11 PM
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This list is debatable very much so however Bob Mckenzie even said something similar a few months back.

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The Morgan Rielly hype train at the WJC is going to be magnificent. I can hear the whining from other Canadian fan bases already
really hope he explodes in this tournament and takes all that he can learn from it.

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12-14-2012, 11:16 PM
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really hope he explodes in this tournament and takes all that he can learn from it.
You and me both. We've needed a prospect like Rielly for a long time.

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12-14-2012, 11:19 PM
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really hope he explodes in this tournament and takes all that he can learn from it.
I also want him to clearly hands down out play Hamilton

I know, I know. I'm getting greedy here

PPG with his usual game changing speed will suffice for me.

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It took precisely one reply for someone on the prospect board thread about this list to start whining about Rielly being too high.

Love it!

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It took precisely one reply for someone on the prospect board thread about this list to start whining about Rielly being too high.

Love it!
It's a Morgan Rielly thread now

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This list is debatable very much so however Bob Mckenzie even said something similar a few months back.
But, but... he's a professional scout! Whose opinions would you trust more than a guy who does it for a living? What are this so called McKenzie character's scouting credentials?

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You and me both. We've needed a prospect like Rielly for a long time.
Agreed. He seems like a legit blue chip prospect.

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I also want him to clearly hands down out play Hamilton

I know, I know. I'm getting greedy here

PPG with his usual game changing speed will suffice for me.
don't we all wish that after that kessel stupid backlash everyone seems to rub in our face? I know I want him to learn his best he can but somewhere I want that too lol.
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It took precisely one reply for someone on the prospect board thread about this list to start whining about Rielly being too high.

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It's a Morgan Rielly thread now
Can you imagine with a full blown lockout and us getting another top 5 pick possible what will happen ?

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Lol, hope everyone on the main board is pissed!

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Can you imagine with a full blown lockout and us getting another top 5 pick possible what will happen ?
I've always thought we had a better chance of that high of a pick if we played a season Would be over the moon if we can get a #1 center prospect at this up coming draft.

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I would trade Rielly for everyone in that top 13 other than Ritchie (and maybe the two Russians based on KHL factor).
That seems incredibly premature.

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12-14-2012, 11:41 PM
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I've always thought we had a better chance of that high of a pick if we played a season Would be over the moon if we can get a #1 center prospect at this up coming draft.
We were a playoff team for 3/4 of last season until an unprecedented collapse. Theres a better chance we finish just outside of a playoff spot then in the top 5 again IMO (if we played a full season).

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We were a playoff team for 3/4 of last season until an unprecedented collapse. Theres a better chance we finish just outside of a playoff spot then in the top 5 again IMO (if we played a full season).
I should've mentioned I'm apart of the Bettman rigging conspiracy theory

I think the odds of each possibility would have been around the same (if I remember right the odds of us getting a top 5 pick isn't all that high assuming same method as last time).

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12-15-2012, 12:01 AM
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Craig Button's list of top 30 NHL affiliated prospects. Ranks Rielly 1st overall in 2012 draft prospects (one ahead of Yakupov) and 4th overall. I've never been so hyped for the World Juniors!
You lost me at Craig button.

If the guy knew anything about player potential he might have held onto St.Louis, Savard and Giguere.

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Morgan Rielly is ranked ahead of yakopov and galchenyuk?


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This list is debatable very much so however Bob Mckenzie even said something similar a few months back.
Atleast Bob does research. I would put much more stock in something Bob did than any thing Button did.

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Naysayers gonna naysay.
Ya I know you're not putting me in that group.

But let's be honest. The only idiot bigger than Button in hockey is Milbury.

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You lost me at Craig button.

If the guy knew anything about player potential he might have held onto St.Louis, Savard and Giguere.
I'd agree that he's a bit off on his projections (ex. don't agree at all with his criticism on Grigorenko) but he`s still a pro scout and has more experience scouting talent then any of us. It`s just nice to finally see a Leafs prospect getting this much respect leading up to the World Juniors, even if it`s coming from the opinion of Button.

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Atleast Bob does research. I would put much more stock in something Bob did than any thing Button did.
Bob polls scouts. Button flies around the world and actually watches the kids play. Both provide great input, but somehow claiming Bob's opinion is any more valid than Button's isn't right.

Button watches the players and posts his opinions on them. It's that simple. There is nothing reduces about his "stock".

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Good for Rielly, but I'd still rather have Yakupov

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Bob polls scouts. Button flies around the world and actually watches the kids play. Both provide great input, but somehow claiming Bob's opinion is any more valid than Button's isn't right.

Button watches the players and posts his opinions on them. It's that simple. There is nothing reduces about his "stock".
You couldn't prove Button is a capable judge of hockey talent if you had 1000 lawyers and 1000 years to make a case.

I would much rather have Bob's poll of scouts than Button's solo oppinion.

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You couldn't prove Button is a capable judge of hockey talent if you had 1000 lawyers and 1000 years to make a case.

I would much rather have Bob's poll of scouts than Button's solo oppinion.
http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=38615 heres his 2011 rankings, just wanted to see everyones opinion.

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Bob polls scouts. Button flies around the world and actually watches the kids play. Both provide great input, but somehow claiming Bob's opinion is any more valid than Button's isn't right.

Button watches the players and posts his opinions on them. It's that simple. There is nothing reduces about his "stock".
Actually...

When Bob tells you something, its usually the opinion of multiple scouts, where Button's opinion is just his own. Personally, i would take Bob's word over Button's any day of the week.

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http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=38615 heres his 2011 rankings, just wanted to see everyones opinion.
Larsson 8th, Hamilton 12th. Every(well apparently almost every) scout had Larsson in the top 3-4.

Here's 2012.
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Craig Button's Final 2012 Draft Rankings

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1. Nail Yakupov 1 Sarnia (OHL) 10/6/93 RW L 5'11/189 42 31 38 69 +15
2. Mathew Dumba 2 Red Deer (WHL) 7/25/94 D R 5'11/183 69 20 37 57 -6
3. Morgan Rielly 3 Moose Jaw (WHL) 3/9/94 D L 6'0/190 18 3 15 18 +6
4. Alex Galchenyuk 4 Sarnia (OHL) 2/12/94 C L 6'1/197 2 0 0 0 -4
5. Teuvo Teravainen 5 Jokerit (FIN) 9/11/94 RW L 5'11/165 40 11 7 18 -5
6. Griffin Reinhart 6 Edmonton (WHL) 1/24/94 D L 6'3/202 58 12 24 36 +23
7. Filip Forsberg 7 Leksands (SWE) 8/13/94 LW R 6'2/181 53 10 10 20 +1
8. Malcolm Subban 8 Belleville (OHL) 12/21/93 G L 6'1/188 39 25 2.50 .923 3
9. Matt Finn 9 Guelph (OHL) 2/24/94 D L 6'0/195 61 10 38 48 -13
10. Hampus Lindholm 10 Rogle (SWE) 1/20/94 D L 6'2/196 36 2 7 9 +7
11. Cody Ceci 11 Ottawa (OHL 12/21/93 D R 6'2/207 64 17 43 60 +21
12. Jacob Trouba 13 USNTDP 2/26/94 D R 6'2/193 54 9 23 32 -
13. Ryan Murray 12 Everett (WHL) 9/27/93 D L 6'0/205 46 9 22 31 E
14. Mark Jankowski 14 Stanstead (Quebec Prep) 9/13/94 C L 6'2/170 57 53 40 93 +51
15. Andrei Vasilevski 15 Ufa (KHL) 7/25/94 G L 6'3/204 27 - 2.23 .931 -
16. Zemgus Girgensons 16 Dubuque (USHL) 1/5/94 C L 6'1/198 49 24 31 55 +17
17. Radek Faksa 17 Kitchener (OHL) 1/9/94 C L 6'3/202 69 29 37 66 +19
18. Derrick Pouliot 18 Portland (WHL) 1/16/94 D L 5'11/186 72 11 48 59 +15
19. Ludvig Bystrom 19 MODO (SWE) 7/20/94 D L 6'1/208 42 8 25 33 -3
20. Mikhail Grigorenko 20 Quebec (QMJHL) 5/16/94 C L 6'3/200 59 40 45 85 +35
21. Tom Wilson 21 Plymouth (OHL) 3/29/94 RW R 6'4/203 49 9 18 27 +17
22. Tomas Hertl 22 Slavia Praha (Czech) 12/11/93 C L 6'2/198 38 12 13 25 -
23. Michael Matheson 24 Dubuque (USHL) 2/27/94 D L 6'1/178 53 11 17 28 E
24. Scott Laughton 25 Oshawa (OHL) 5/30/94 C L 6'0/177 64 21 32 53 +8
25. Gemel Smith 26 Owen Sound (OHL) 4/16/94 LW L 5'10/160 68 21 39 60 E
26. Brady Skeji 27 USNTDP 3/26/94 D L 6'2/200 60 4 19 23 -
27. Sebastien Collberg 28 Frolunda (SWE) 2/23/94 RW R 5'11/176 23 9 8 17 +2
28. Olli Maatta 30 London (OHL) 8/22/94 D L 6'1/202 58 5 27 32 +25
29. Henrik Samuelsson 54 Edmonton (WHL) 2/7/94 RW R 6'2/195 28 7 16 23 +18
30. Phillip Di Giuseppe 29 Michigan (CCHA) 10/9/93 LW L 5'11/176 40 11 15 26 +23
The early picks are generally a concensus but he can't even get those right.

Finn at #9? Maybe we'll be lucky. I do have a broken watch that's right twice a day.

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