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12-15-2012, 06:27 AM
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Why trade so much for a 38 y/o pitcher?
Something to do with winning I'm guessing

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12-15-2012, 07:06 AM
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Why trade so much for a 38 y/o pitcher?
because they want to win? you know that thing no major toronto team has done for decades. NO the argos are not a major team

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12-15-2012, 07:18 AM
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damn Mets. Last year we lose the batting champion (JReyes) and this year we lose the Cy Young winner. What a Mess.

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because they want to win? you know that thing no major toronto team has done for decades. NO the argos are not a major team
What about Toronto Rock? Are they a major team

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damn Mets. Last year we lose the batting champion (JReyes) and this year we lose the Cy Young winner. What a Mess.
Both could now be Jays too

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12-15-2012, 08:43 AM
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Martino saying He hears Jays are willing to part with Gose and TDA in deal

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12-15-2012, 08:51 AM
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Martino saying He hears Jays are willing to part with Gose and TDA in deal
If true what are the Mets waiting for?

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12-15-2012, 08:53 AM
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Well there is more coming back to Toronto. Apparently the Mets are keeping the other players close to their chests because Toronto can derail the move.

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12-15-2012, 09:18 AM
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damn Mets. Last year we lose the batting champion (JReyes) and this year we lose the Cy Young winner. What a Mess.
They weren't going to win a title even if they had kept both. The mistake was not trading Reyes.

I still find this rumor hard to believe with TDA involved unless the Mets are sending a top prospect back too.

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12-15-2012, 09:26 AM
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What's so special in Gose? What's his ceilling?

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12-15-2012, 09:29 AM
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damn Mets. Last year we lose the batting champion (JReyes) and this year we lose the Cy Young winner. What a Mess.
Trading Dickey at the peak of his value is the way to go. The Mets aren't winning anything with Dickey the next two years. They have no catchers, no outfielders, and a good crop of pitchers.

No brainer IMO, as much as I like the guy.

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12-15-2012, 09:50 AM
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What's so special in Gose? What's his ceilling?
His ceiling is Carl Crawford with a better eye and gold glove defense in CF.

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His ceiling is Carl Crawford with a better eye and gold glove defense in CF.
And a way better arm. As a pitcher in high school Gose had a 97mph fastball.

There are questions about his hitting but his speed, defense and arm are elite. All + or ++ tools.

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What's so special in Gose? What's his ceilling?
He's got the defence and the speed, needs to work on hitting in the bigs.

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And a way better arm. As a pitcher in high school Gose had a 97mph fastball.
It was nice to see teams hesitant to run on him after he showed off his arm.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=25068399

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It was nice to see teams hesitant to run on him after he showed off his arm.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=25068399
The kid has an absolute cannon for an arm. Kinda surprising with his slight frame.

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He's got the defence and the speed, needs to work on hitting in the bigs.
His D, speed and arm alone make him good enough to be a starting center fielder, if his bat ever comes around he will be a very special player.

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The Jays better give one hell of a plus for JDA +

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So to repeat, Anthony Gose is NOT part of the trade talks for Dickey. #Bluejays building a package around D'Arnaud. #Mets

https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/sta...89478305710080

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12-15-2012, 10:48 AM
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The Jays better give one hell of a plus for JDA +
JPA
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TDA

2 different catchers with very different value.

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His D, speed and arm alone make him good enough to be a starting center fielder, if his bat ever comes around he will be a very special player.
I can't tell if the Mets are selling high or the Jays are here Toronto just drafted another outfield speedster this past year, D.J. Davis. Maybe AA is thinking he could part with Gose for help in other spots and still have that future leadoff hitter.

And after reading that Joel Sherman tweet, maybe it doesn't matter lol


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So to repeat, Anthony Gose is NOT part of the trade talks for Dickey. #Bluejays building a package around D'Arnaud. #Mets

https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/sta...89478305710080
Well that is good I guess..... Still don't want to give up TDA.

I'm still hoping for something around JPA and Rasmus +.

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12-15-2012, 10:52 AM
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I can't tell if the Mets are selling high or the Jays are here Toronto just drafted another outfield speedster this past year, D.J. Davis. Maybe AA is thinking he could part with Gose for help in other spots and still have that future leadoff hitter.
I dont really like the idea of trading TDA or Gose but adding Dickey would be huge.

If we trade both I will be beyond pissed.

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JPA
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TDA

2 different catchers with very different value.
One's a pile of crap, one's awesome.

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12-15-2012, 11:03 AM
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I dont really like the idea of trading TDA or Gose but adding Dickey would be huge.

If we trade both I will be beyond pissed.
I agree, after the constant barrage of catchers the Jays have fielded the last few years that tantalizing stability that TDA could bring is very enticing.

A silver lining in all this, we get a chance to see the knuckleball a lot more. I haven't been this excited since Tom Candiotti was picked up.

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