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12-15-2012, 10:15 AM
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Finlands possible top 6 next year:

Lehkonen-Barkov-Haapala
Kulmala-Teräväinen-Ikonen

D:

Määttä-Pokka
Ristolainen-Lindell
Vainio-Vainonen

Depth players:

Saku Salminen
Markus Hännikäinen
Henri Ikonen

Goalies:

Korpisalo
Juvonen

D is extremely strong and goalies are good and experienced. There is strong possibility that Barkov plays in the NHL.
Yeah, except that Hännikäinen is '93-born.

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12-15-2012, 10:20 AM
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The shortage isn't that bad. There are at least two bigger guys (H. Ikonen and Nykopp) who could be fitted into that line in J. Ikonen's place. It wouldn't weaken the skill level significantly and it would add a more physical element. Now it looks like these guys are competing for 4th line spots, and there are more than plenty of suitable guys for that line already.
I wouldn't break up the Aaltonen - Ikonen pair. They have been very good in the SM-liiga together. If anything, they could try one of the bigger more physical wingers and switch Aaltonen to center. Besides Ikonen hasn't had any problems with physical players. He's a fierce forechecker and plays hard, and brings a lot of skill. And it would weaken the skill level significantly if they switched Ikonen to Nykopp. First, Ikonen is much more skilled. Second, Aaltonen has no previous chemistry with Nykopp.

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12-15-2012, 10:23 AM
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Anyone else not very excited that Teräväinen is being slotted to C?

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12-15-2012, 10:25 AM
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Anyone else not very excited that Teräväinen is being slotted to C?
This. Hes 1000x better in wing than in center.

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12-15-2012, 10:31 AM
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Anyone else not very excited that Teräväinen is being slotted to C?
I agree. I would love to see him play wing beside Barkov, that would be awesome.

Teräväinen - Barkov - Lehkonen
Salomäki - Granlund - Armia
H. Ikonen - Aaltonen - J. Ikonen
Hännikäinen - Salminen - Lamberg

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12-15-2012, 10:35 AM
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What will the PP lines look like?

i would enjoy seeing:

PP1:

Teräväinen-Barkov-Armia

Määttä-Ristolainen

PP2:

Lehkonen-Granlund-Salomäki

Lindell-Pokka

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12-15-2012, 10:55 AM
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Anyone else not very excited that Teräväinen is being slotted to C?
I don't care as long as there's another player in the line he can freely switch in and out of the slot as the game progresses. If Aaltonen remains with him, Teräväinen being the centre in paper becomes a mere technicality.

Same with Granlund/Salomäki.

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12-15-2012, 11:03 AM
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Anyone else not very excited that Teräväinen is being slotted to C?
This. When he's played center this season, he's been pretty bad. Aaltonen's played center more and done better.

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I wouldn't break up the Aaltonen - Ikonen pair. They have been very good in the SM-liiga together. If anything, they could try one of the bigger more physical wingers and switch Aaltonen to center. Besides Ikonen hasn't had any problems with physical players. He's a fierce forechecker and plays hard, and brings a lot of skill. And it would weaken the skill level significantly if they switched Ikonen to Nykopp. First, Ikonen is much more skilled. Second, Aaltonen has no previous chemistry with Nykopp.
I wouldn't break them up, either. I'd leave Ikonen out altogether, I don't see any other place for him except with Aaltonen. But I really don't like the idea of putting these three together. I'd also consider moving Teräväinen to Barkov's line, cutting Haapala altogether and keeping Aaltonen and Ikonen together (and adding the other Ikonen or Nykopp). I don't like having 'unmovable' pieces on the team, and IMO both J. Ikonen (with Aaltonen) and Haapala (with Barkov) could be seen as such. If we keep both, there will be less room to make changes if things don't work out. I'd like to have a bit more versatility than what we would have with a top9 like this one.

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12-15-2012, 11:13 AM
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This. Hes 1000x better in wing than in center.
He's played more as a center in international games, including the majority of the last U-18 WJC and did just fine there.

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12-15-2012, 11:23 AM
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I agree. I would love to see him play wing beside Barkov, that would be awesome.

Teräväinen - Barkov - Lehkonen
Salomäki - Granlund - Armia
H. Ikonen - Aaltonen - J. Ikonen
Hännikäinen - Salminen - Lamberg
Pretty much the lines that I have/had on my mind.

3rd line is still competitive.

2nd line gets some size in Armia. They have 'grinder' in Salomäki who can also chip in offensively, playmaker in Granlund and scorer in Armia.

1st line gets hard worker and good forechecker in Lehkonen, he can skate, shoot and score. Barkov does everything and he's D will allow Teräväinen to do little cherry picking offensively. They don't have RH-shooter but we miss those anyways.

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12-15-2012, 12:52 PM
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Any indication who is going to be the starting goalie? From what I've seen, it looks like most here have Korpisalo penciled in as the starter because he has the best numbers in U20 games this year. But, Perhonen has slightly better club numbers, but worse U20 stats. Laurikainen looks to have solid numbers in the WHL, but has never played on the national team before, and looks to be improving by the day. Juvonen looks to be a distant 4th, with the worst club stats, and worst U20 performance of the three with experience internationally. IMO, it's going to come down to Korpisalo and Laurikainen.

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12-15-2012, 01:10 PM
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Any indication who is going to be the starting goalie? From what I've seen, it looks like most here have Korpisalo penciled in as the starter because he has the best numbers in U20 games this year. But, Perhonen has slightly better club numbers, but worse U20 stats. Laurikainen looks to have solid numbers in the WHL, but has never played on the national team before, and looks to be improving by the day. Juvonen looks to be a distant 4th, with the worst club stats, and worst U20 performance of the three with experience internationally. IMO, it's going to come down to Korpisalo and Laurikainen.
Coah Harri Rindell was interviewed during the Finlans-Sweden EHT game and according to those who saw it, he pretty much indicated that Korpisalo was the number 1 goalie.

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12-15-2012, 01:24 PM
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But, Perhonen has slightly better club numbers, but worse U20 stats.
Also, just a page down, it was mentioned that Perhonen is out due to injury.

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12-15-2012, 02:24 PM
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Any chance we see Armia paired with Barkov? As a Sabres fan, I am interested to see what he can do with an elite center.

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12-15-2012, 03:03 PM
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Any chance we see Armia paired with Barkov? As a Sabres fan, I am interested to see what he can do with an elite center.
I'd say it's doubtful, as they are the only big (or even 6'+) top-6 caliber players on the team. Perhaps a possibility on PP, though.


Could be interesting to see Teräväinen, Salomäki and Armia together, in which case top-9 would slot into something like:

Lehkonen-Barkov-Haapala
Teräväinen-Salomäki-Armia
Granlund-Aaltonen-Ikonen.

However, that would only make the third line even smaller and less talented, which I'm not happy with. Of course then again, if Granlund proves to be solid centerman at this level, or Teräväinen can play center as well as wing, you could move Salomäki to 3rd line C, which would at least bring some grit there.

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12-15-2012, 03:25 PM
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Any chance we see Armia paired with Barkov? As a Sabres fan, I am interested to see what he can do with an elite center.
I want to see him with Barkov as well so when we win the lottery and select Barkov, they will already have some chemistry.

Just to clarify, Granlund is Markus Granlund right?

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12-15-2012, 03:26 PM
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Korpisalo the number 1 goalie?

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12-15-2012, 03:33 PM
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Just to clarify, Granlund is Markus Granlund right?
Yes, Mikael is 92 born.

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Coah Harri Rindell was interviewed during the Finlans-Sweden EHT game and according to those who saw it, he pretty much indicated that Korpisalo was the number 1 goalie.

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Coah Harri Rindell was interviewed during the Finlans-Sweden EHT game and according to those who saw it, he pretty much indicated that Korpisalo was the number 1 goalie.
He said that Team Finland has 3 good goalies and they will choose the number 1 goalie after the preparation games against USA and Canada.

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12-16-2012, 09:10 AM
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Haapala - Barkov - Lehkonen
Määttä - Ristolainen

Teräväinen - Granlund - Armia
Pokka - Vainonen

Salomäki - Aaltonen - J.Ikonen
Lindell - Lindbohm

Nykopp - Salminen - Lamberg/Hännikäinen

H.Ikonen
Valkonen

Korpisalo
Laurikainen
Juvonen

I Know someone will criticize Haapala being in the first but i think the chemistry whit Barkov is Real. Valkonen and Auvinen could be no.4 dpair

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12-16-2012, 01:13 PM
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He said that Team Finland has 3 good goalies and they will choose the number 1 goalie after the preparation games against USA and Canada.
So I should wait to pick a Finnish goaltender for my pools?

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So I should wait to pick a Finnish goaltender for my pools?
Unless you're in a rush, that would be the best course of action.

If you need to lock it down sooner, Korpisalo would probably be the best choice for a betting man. Recommend waiting, though.

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Yle with reports on Finnish players

On Määttä

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Pittsburgh Penguinsin kanssa jo NHL-sopimuksenkin solminut osaa kaiken: peruspelissä ratkaisut ovat lähes poikkeuksetta oikeita ja kiekollinenkin peli on kehittynyt. Osaa lukea peliä ja sijoittuu yleensä erittäin hyvin.
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Translated: Määttä who already has made contract with Pittsburgh Penguins can do it all: Makes the right choice almost every time in basic/normal situations and puck moving abilities have improved. Reads the game well and positioning is usually very good.
Dear god I hope so.

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According to this:
http://www.iltalehti.fi/smliiga/2012...62891_sm.shtml

Helminen will be back as the U20s head coach next season. Ugh. If we want a medal anytime soon, we'd better take it now.

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12-17-2012, 05:51 PM
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Helminen will be back as the U20s head coach next season.
Thanks for ruining my day.

If this turns out to be true, Kale is pissing on the Young Lions again. It is NOT the right job for a guy who is still trying to figure out how to be a coach.

Oh well. Let's hope he's picked up at least something from his season with Ilves. Helminen in 2014 will be at least a little better than Helminen in 2012... right? Right?


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