HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > Other Sports > Baseball
Baseball MLB, NCAA, International

[NYM/TOR] Dickey/Thole/Nickeas for D'Arnaud/Syndergaard/Buck/Becerra (done deal)

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
12-15-2012, 11:06 AM
  #76
McTank
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,820
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyris View Post
Well that is good I guess..... Still don't want to give up TDA.

I'm still hoping for something around JPA and Rasmus +.
That would be ridiculous overpayment

McTank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 11:13 AM
  #77
Cyris
Global Moderator
The one who knocks!
 
Cyris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 3rd Planet From Sun.
Country: Canada
Posts: 12,156
vCash: 797
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheyAreGoodScaryGood View Post
That would be ridiculous overpayment
TDA will be better than both of them put together.

Cyris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 11:21 AM
  #78
Everlong
JoeyBats
 
Everlong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 25,563
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MurrayBannerman View Post
One's a pile of crap, one's awesome.
Hardly a "pile of crap", catchers with power are always in demand, but yes TDA holds infinitely more value.

Glad to hear Gose is most likely safe.

Everlong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 11:31 AM
  #79
kanuck87
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 4,207
vCash: 500
Wow, just wow. Dickey only makes 5 million next season. The Jays could definitely make another move here. They could use a DH. Laroche on a short contract would be a nice fit. Maybe the + coming along with Dickey is Ike Davis. That would be a good fit for the Jays too.

kanuck87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 11:32 AM
  #80
MurrayBannerman
BBall ATD Champion
 
MurrayBannerman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: 219
Country: United States
Posts: 20,731
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Everlong View Post
Hardly a "pile of crap", catchers with power are always in demand, but yes TDA holds infinitely more value.

Glad to hear Gose is most likely safe.
Well, considering that's the only thing he can do, I think he qualifies.

He's an average catcher and not really anything more.

MurrayBannerman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 11:35 AM
  #81
CoachBadkitten
Matt Hunwick
 
CoachBadkitten's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: USA
Country: United States
Posts: 3,829
vCash: 500
I would be so happy if this happened. Jays are my favorite team and Dickey is my favorite player.

CoachBadkitten is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 11:40 AM
  #82
Cyris
Global Moderator
The one who knocks!
 
Cyris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 3rd Planet From Sun.
Country: Canada
Posts: 12,156
vCash: 797
Quote:
Originally Posted by MurrayBannerman View Post
Well, considering that's the only thing he can do, I think he qualifies.

He's an average catcher and not really anything more.
I think average is even being generous. He is below average defensively and offensively. All he has is power.


Wait I mean he is awesome Mets fans, you totally want him instead of TDA....

Go sherdog!

Cyris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 11:46 AM
  #83
Kershaw
 
Kershaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Country:
Posts: 25,519
vCash: 50
Still like Yankees chance of winning division again.

Johnson and Morrow are injury prone.

Dickey is a senior citizen and could break down while playing in AL East.

Romero sucks.

Buehrle gets lit up by the Yankees.

Happ is dime a dozen.

Kershaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 11:46 AM
  #84
MurrayBannerman
BBall ATD Champion
 
MurrayBannerman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: 219
Country: United States
Posts: 20,731
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyris View Post
I think average is even being generous. He is below average defensively and offensively. All he has is power.


Wait I mean he is awesome Mets fans, you totally want him instead of TDA....

Go sherdog!
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because his power is on the higher end of the scale for catchers.


MurrayBannerman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 11:48 AM
  #85
Marc the Habs Fan
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Longueuil
Country: Canada
Posts: 49,973
vCash: 597
Looks like Gose is not in it, per Heyman quoting Sherman.

Marc the Habs Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 11:48 AM
  #86
MurrayBannerman
BBall ATD Champion
 
MurrayBannerman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: 219
Country: United States
Posts: 20,731
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tortorella View Post
Still like Yankees chance of winning division again.

Johnson and Morrow are injury prone.

Dickey is a senior citizen and could break down while playing in AL East.

Romero sucks.

Buehrle gets lit up by the Yankees.

Happ is dime a dozen.
The only team that has no chance is the BoSox

MurrayBannerman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 11:54 AM
  #87
Cyris
Global Moderator
The one who knocks!
 
Cyris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 3rd Planet From Sun.
Country: Canada
Posts: 12,156
vCash: 797
Quote:
Originally Posted by MurrayBannerman View Post
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because his power is on the higher end of the scale for catchers.

His power is nice and I could see it continue to improve but that is really all he has.

His D is poor, his arm is poor and he cant get on base.

Cyris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 12:06 PM
  #88
MurrayBannerman
BBall ATD Champion
 
MurrayBannerman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: 219
Country: United States
Posts: 20,731
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyris View Post
His power is nice and I could see it continue to improve but that is really all he has.

His D is poor, his arm is poor and he cant get on base.
Pretty much. He's not going to get much better at 27 being a catcher, so what you see is what you got.

MurrayBannerman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 12:10 PM
  #89
Cyris
Global Moderator
The one who knocks!
 
Cyris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 3rd Planet From Sun.
Country: Canada
Posts: 12,156
vCash: 797
Quote:
Originally Posted by MurrayBannerman View Post
Pretty much. He's not going to get much better at 27 being a catcher, so what you see is what you got.
We might even be a better team next season with Buck over JPA. He is even worse with the bat but atleast he brings something to the table defensively.

JPA trying to catch a knuckleball would be a disaster.

Cyris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 12:21 PM
  #90
MurrayBannerman
BBall ATD Champion
 
MurrayBannerman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: 219
Country: United States
Posts: 20,731
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyris View Post
We might even be a better team next season with Buck over JPA. He is even worse with the bat but atleast he brings something to the table defensively.

JPA trying to catch a knuckleball would be a disaster.
I don't even want to see that.

MurrayBannerman is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 12:28 PM
  #91
BigFatCat999
I love GoOoOlD
 
BigFatCat999's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Campbell, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 9,857
vCash: 500
The Jays are phenomenal offensively and could afford to move JPA to improve their defense with Buck.

BigFatCat999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 12:30 PM
  #92
Cyris
Global Moderator
The one who knocks!
 
Cyris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 3rd Planet From Sun.
Country: Canada
Posts: 12,156
vCash: 797
Quote:
Originally Posted by MurrayBannerman View Post
I don't even want to see that.
No one but our opposition does.

Cyris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 12:34 PM
  #93
Cyris
Global Moderator
The one who knocks!
 
Cyris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: 3rd Planet From Sun.
Country: Canada
Posts: 12,156
vCash: 797
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFatCat999 View Post
The Jays are phenomenal offensively and could afford to move JPA to improve their defense with Buck.
I completely agree with you. Especially if we add a solid lefty bat to play 1B or DH.
JPA's power is not enough to make up for his defensive short comings especially at a premium position like catcher.

I also wouldnt complain if Rasmus was moved to make room for Gose. Tho it might help Gose's bat to spend another year in AAA.

Atleast unlike JPA Rasmus is decent defensively, so it wont hurt to much to wait a year there.

Cyris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 01:07 PM
  #94
sparxx87
Registered User
 
sparxx87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Etobicoke
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,386
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tortorella View Post
Still like Yankees chance of winning division again.

Johnson and Morrow are injury prone.

Dickey is a senior citizen and could break down while playing in AL East.

Romero sucks.

Buehrle gets lit up by the Yankees.

Happ is dime a dozen.
The bulk of the Yankees core are senior citizens..

Theres definitely some questions regarding the health of the pitching staff, but thats what the depth is for.. 1-5 they're as good as almost anyone in the American league..

Cano better carry that team, because they have more question marks surrounding this season and their future then I've ever seen. Whose in right? Whose going to catch? Just how bad will Youk be at 3B? Whose at short until Derek Eater gets back? What about Pettite?


Ironic to hear about question marks coming from a Yankee fan.

sparxx87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 01:13 PM
  #95
le_sean
Registered User
 
le_sean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ottawa
Country: Vatican City State
Posts: 14,979
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tortorella View Post
Still like Yankees chance of winning division again.

Johnson and Morrow are injury prone.

Dickey is a senior citizen and could break down while playing in AL East.

Romero sucks.

Buehrle gets lit up by the Yankees.

Happ is dime a dozen.
Pineda is injury prone.

Pettite, Kuroda are senior citizens.

Nova sucks.

Hughes gets lit up by the Blue Jays.

Garcia is a dime a dozen.

See, I can do that too.

le_sean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 01:17 PM
  #96
Woodman19
#TeamBernier
 
Woodman19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 12,016
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by le_sean View Post
Pineda is injury prone.

Pettite, Kuroda are senior citizens.

Nova sucks.

Hughes gets lit up by the Blue Jays.

Garcia is a dime a dozen.

See, I can do that too.
Soriano and Swisher left as Free agents

Woodman19 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 01:24 PM
  #97
Better Call Saul
Registered User
 
Better Call Saul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Country: United States
Posts: 5,251
vCash: 500
Garcia isn't even on the Yankees.

Better Call Saul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 01:26 PM
  #98
darko
Registered User
 
darko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Country: Australia
Posts: 29,840
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Gary Scott View Post
Really scared. If D'Arnaud goes and we don't get wheeler... I might cry


You can forget about Wheeler. Why would Mets package him with Dickey? It doesnt make sense. Wheeler and D'Arnaud have similar value.

darko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 01:27 PM
  #99
darko
Registered User
 
darko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Country: Australia
Posts: 29,840
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc the Habs Fan View Post
They weren't going to win a title even if they had kept both. The mistake was not trading Reyes.

I still find this rumor hard to believe with TDA involved unless the Mets are sending a top prospect back too.

If Mets add it'll be something along the lines of Ike Davis/Niese/Parnell etc.

Harvey and Wheeler are about as untouchable as they can be.

darko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-15-2012, 01:28 PM
  #100
mapes
Registered User
 
mapes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Halifax
Posts: 21,368
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tortorella View Post
Still like Yankees chance of winning division again.

Johnson and Morrow are injury prone.

Dickey is a senior citizen and could break down while playing in AL East.

Romero sucks.

Buehrle gets lit up by the Yankees.

Happ is dime a dozen.
Romero sucks? Because, what, 1 bad season? He was great the year before

You argue injury prone, yet Arod is missing half the year, Jeter isn't healthy and you have Youk.

Not to mention Swisher is gone too

Jays rotation without Dickey is better than the Yanks. With Dickey...


Last edited by mapes: 12-15-2012 at 01:33 PM.
mapes is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:16 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.