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12-14-2012, 06:24 PM
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Don't think either team has the center depth to make the finals but I'd go with NY more high end talent up front.

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12-14-2012, 07:07 PM
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Don't think either team has the center depth to make the finals but I'd go with NY more high end talent up front.
The Rangers were 2 wins away from the finals.

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12-14-2012, 07:56 PM
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The Rangers were 2 wins away from the finals.
they also were taken to game 7 in the 2 series that they won, remember the last time the canes made the playoffs?

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12-14-2012, 08:03 PM
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they also were taken to game 7 in the 2 series that they won, remember the last time the canes made the playoffs?
Yea except the Caps and Sens were the worst possible matchups that the Rangers could have got. If they got the Flyers, Bruins, or Panthers those series would have most likely lasted less than 7 games, especially against the Flyers.

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12-15-2012, 05:40 AM
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It depends upon which version of Nash, but I more than certainly agree on the likelihood of Tarasenko not being on the level of any of the above for at least his rookie season. McDonald might be able to play the Gaborik role (including being oft-injured...) since he seems to come alive during the playoffs.


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Playoffs 

Date	 Opponent  Result  G	A	Pts	+/-	PIM	PPG	Hits	Bks	PPA	SHG	SHA	GW	GT	SOG	Pct	 
May 6  @ LOS  L 1-3	  0	0	0	-2	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	.000	 
May 3  @ LOS  L 2-4	  0	0	0	-1	2	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	N/A	
Apr 30  LOS     L 2-5	  1	1	2	1	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	4	.250	 
Apr 28  LOS     L 1-3	  0	0	0	-2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	.000
What a world-beater.

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12-15-2012, 09:18 AM
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they also were taken to game 7 in the 2 series that they won, remember the last time the canes made the playoffs?
They got swept though.

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12-15-2012, 10:04 AM
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The Rangers were 2 wins away from the finals.
They were also 1 loss away from losing in the first round.

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12-15-2012, 12:17 PM
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They were also 1 loss away from losing in the first round.
So....

When the Bruins play 3 game sevens, it shows perseverance and toughness?

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12-15-2012, 05:13 PM
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They were also 1 loss away from losing in the first round.
So were the Devils.

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12-15-2012, 05:51 PM
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Until then, I think St Louis and Vancouver are the favorites in the West, and maybe even the Kings with the long offseason.
Not to derail, but not until Ryan Kesler's role is something less than "check the opposition's best players and provide two lines' worth of secondary scoring."

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12-15-2012, 06:36 PM
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So....

When the Bruins play 3 game sevens, it shows perseverance and toughness?
they won though

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Yea except the Caps and Sens were the worst possible matchups that the Rangers could have got. If they got the Flyers, Bruins, or Panthers those series would have most likely lasted less than 7 games, especially against the Flyers.
remember how cocky ranger fans were about playing the devils, they were already thinking about the stanley cup final, you have no idea what could've happened in any of those match ups anyway

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12-15-2012, 06:47 PM
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remember how cocky ranger fans were about playing the devils, they were already thinking about the stanley cup final, you have no idea what could've happened in any of those match ups anyway
I remember seeing tons of Devils were going to win the Stanley Cup after they beat the Rangers. We are the cocky ones.

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12-15-2012, 08:12 PM
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remember how cocky ranger fans were about playing the devils, they were already thinking about the stanley cup final, you have no idea what could've happened in any of those match ups anyway
Well, I'll keep in mind your comment about how the Rangers are gonna need to get through the Islanders

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12-15-2012, 08:42 PM
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It's surprising how many mediocre teams can make it all the way to the conference final. I also cite the Habs and the Lightning

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It's surprising how many mediocre teams can make it all the way to the conference final. I also cite the Habs and the Lightning
Mediocre teams don't finish first in the regular season

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12-15-2012, 10:41 PM
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Code:
Playoffs 

Date	 Opponent  Result  G	A	Pts	+/-	PIM	PPG	Hits	Bks	PPA	SHG	SHA	GW	GT	SOG	Pct	 
May 6  @ LOS  L 1-3	  0	0	0	-2	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	.000	 
May 3  @ LOS  L 2-4	  0	0	0	-1	2	0	0	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	N/A	
Apr 30  LOS     L 2-5	  1	1	2	1	2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	4	.250	 
Apr 28  LOS     L 1-3	  0	0	0	-2	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	.000
What a world-beater.
5 goals, 5 assists in nine post season games this past year.

18 goals, 19 assists, 37 points in 50 post season games in his career.

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12-16-2012, 02:04 AM
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What a world-beater.
For you this is likely rhetorical, but I simply have to wonder...has any King ever had a less than spectacular playoff? Not a less than spectacular single round, but the whole thing?
Let us ponder on that for a moment. Start with the captain, yes?


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GP 	G 	A 	PTS 	GC 	+/- 	PIM 	EV 	PP 	SH 	GW 	S 	S% 	TOI 	ATOI
6 	1 	4 	5 	2 	-7 	6 	0 	1 	0 	0 	15 	6.7 	113 	18:53
6 	1 	1 	2 	1 	-3 	6 	0 	1 	0 	0 	10 	10.0 	120 	20:00
Well that hardly seems fair...certainly a captain for the team cannot be expected to haul the team through both season and post-season.
Perhaps we should look at the player who most consider one of, if not the, reason the Kings won the cup this past season. Surely he has never had a sub-par post season.


Guess the goaltender (hint: despite that first listing it is not, in fact, Kelly Hrudey)
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GP 	W 	L 	T/O 	GA 	SA 	SV 	SV% 	GAA 	SO 	MIN 	G 	A 	PTS 	PIM
6 	2 	4 		21 	181 	160 	.884 	3.50 	0 	360 	0 	0 	0 	0
6 	2 	4 		20 	229 	209 	.913 	3.16 	1 	380 	0 	0 	0 	0

...Oh.

Well, in both of the above instances there was only a single round, doubtless in your mind I am sure this really was not fair.


Oh, and just to defend my statement re: Gaborik, since you seem...disinclined to vet my assertion.



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GP 	G 	A 	PTS 	GC 	+/- 	PIM 	EV 	PP 	SH 	GW 	S 	S% 	TOI 	ATOI
5 	3 	1 	4 	2 	3 	8 	1 	1 	1 	1 	18 	16.7 	98 	19:32
6 	0 	1 	1 	0 	-3 	4 	0 	0 	0 	0 	25 	0.0 	131 	21:51
5 	1 	1 	2 	1 	0 	2 	1 	0 	0 	0 	20 	5.0 	120 	23:56
20 	5 	6 	11 	4 	0 	2 	5 	0 	0 	1 	60 	8.3 	399 	19:56

Consider that against Randall's statement above and try trolling again. With at least some style this time.

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12-17-2012, 08:47 AM
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5 goals, 5 assists in nine post season games this past year.

18 goals, 19 assists, 37 points in 50 post season games in his career.
8 pts and a +2 in 5 games vs SJ in the first round.

2 pts and a -4 in 4 games vs LA in the second round.

Isn't that the opposite of "coming alive in the playoffs"?

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For you this is likely rhetorical, but I simply have to wonder...has any King ever had a less than spectacular playoff? Not a less than spectacular single round, but the whole thing?
Of course, but I never claimed that any Kings player "comes alive during the playoffs". So therefore, why does it matter what the Kings do?

I'm talking about Andy MacDonald and how constantly overrated he is by Blues fans. You (a Blues fan) said MacDonald comes alive in the playoffs and I proved that to be wrong. The Kings players have NOTHING to do with this discussion.

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Of course, but I never claimed that any Kings player "comes alive during the playoffs". So therefore, why does it matter what the Kings do?

I'm talking about Andy MacDonald and how constantly overrated he is by Blues fans. You (a Blues fan) said MacDonald comes alive in the playoffs and I proved that to be wrong. The Kings players have NOTHING to do with this discussion.
Your 4 game sample size doesn't prove crap

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remember how cocky ranger fans were about playing the devils, they were already thinking about the stanley cup final, you have no idea what could've happened in any of those match ups anyway
I recall how cautious Rangers fans were about playing the Devils. Not cocky. They were one of the hottest teams in the league going into the playoffs. In addition to that, their heavy-forechecking style wasn't the ideal match-up.

You ran into 1 Rangers fan who was all high and mighty and your slapping the mojo he was flaunting on all of us. Get your **** straight.

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I recall how cautious Rangers fans were about playing the Devils. Not cocky. They were one of the hottest teams in the league going into the playoffs. In addition to that, their heavy-forechecking style wasn't the ideal match-up.

You ran into 1 Rangers fan who was all high and mighty and your slapping the mojo he was flaunting on all of us. Get your **** straight.
actually every ranger fan i know was ridiculous cocky going into that series, and i also thought it was going to be an easy series rangers win, everyone pretty much thought the devils didn't stand a chance

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Of course, but I never claimed that any Kings player "comes alive during the playoffs". So therefore, why does it matter what the Kings do?

I'm talking about Andy MacDonald and how constantly overrated he is by Blues fans. You (a Blues fan) said MacDonald comes alive in the playoffs and I proved that to be wrong. The Kings players have NOTHING to do with this discussion.
I was attempting to show sample sizing more than anything else. I did so in a personally-amusing way by showing that I can pick virtually any player and make them look as less than a playoff player.
The second selection, Jonathan Quick, if we were to use your methodology would come up as a passable-at-best goaltender.

I now realize that you will evidently need to go further in math before I can appropriately have a conversation with you regarding such things as sample size and averages.
My fault for being overly-presumptuous really.

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I was attempting to show sample sizing more than anything else. I did so in a personally-amusing way by showing that I can pick virtually any player and make them look as less than a playoff player.
The second selection, Jonathan Quick, if we were to use your methodology would come up as a passable-at-best goaltender.

I now realize that you will evidently need to go further in math before I can appropriately have a conversation with you regarding such things as sample size and averages.
My fault for being overly-presumptuous really.
That and someone needs to explain what a playoff performer looks like to him.

Really, just don't feed the trolls. I had other King's fans apologizing for that troll in PMs during the playoffs, he really isn't worth your time.

A better understanding of math, as you said, and a better understanding of the difference between a really good to great playoff performer and a generational playoff performer would go a long way for that guy. I mean, if I were him I'd be too busy celebrating my team winning the Cup (still) to be trolling fans of other teams, but:



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