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12-16-2012, 09:23 AM
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If Gally is in the NHL this season, he should be in the top 6.

Otherwise he goes back to Sarnia.

Don't see the point in using up a year of ELC/service time for 40 some games to play 12 minutes a night.
Playing on a 3rd line with, say Eller, even if he's playing 12-15 minutes per game would be essential to his development. Just being in the show (practising, travelling, learning from pros) is worth it alone. Besides, it's starting to look like he's taken all he can from the junior level.

The only worthwhile venture left for him is the WJC. After that, I hope they give him a shot at the bigs. (if the bigs sort out their nonsense in time)

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12-16-2012, 09:30 AM
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As I think Gally will be in the NHL as soon as there's a season, I think he with Desharnais, Eller, Pacioretty or Cole could be just awesome.

I particularly think that DD and Gally would work splendidly together. They're both so smart, and able to hang onto the puck that extra second.
I agree, especially with the bolded part.

I would go with:

Pacioretty – Plekanec - Cole
Galchenyuk – Desharnais – Bourque (Desharnais can jump start Bourque)
Moen – Eller – Gionta (a very solid shutdown line – a lot of even strength minutes)
Prust – Nokelainen – White (a much needed right handed faceoffs specialist)

Three concerns regarding this lineup:

1) If after 10 games Galchenyuk is showing clear signs of not being ready, just send him back in the juniors and tell him: see you soon.

2) If Eller wants to thrive as a two ways center, he needs to get better in the face-offs circle. When Lapierre and Chipchura were fighting for the same spot (checking line center), Carbonneau, one of the best checking line center who ever played the game imo, mentioned that if you want to thrive as a NHL checking line/two ways center, you need to do more than average in the face-offs circle.

3) Gomez!

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12-16-2012, 09:32 AM
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Leave him in the OHL this year. He's in a leadership position, plays in every situation, and the pressure of making the team win is on him every night.

The Habs will suck this year no matter what. He'll just learn how to lose. While using a year before he gets his UFA status. So strictly for the team, making him play more than 12 games this year will cost a lot of money in the long term, and of course we'll get a worse position in next year's draft.

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12-16-2012, 10:04 AM
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Leave him in the OHL this year. He's in a leadership position, plays in every situation, and the pressure of making the team win is on him every night.

The Habs will suck this year no matter what. He'll just learn how to lose. While using a year before he gets his UFA status. So strictly for the team, making him play more than 12 games this year will cost a lot of money in the long term, and of course we'll get a worse position in next year's draft.
Habs could surprise alot with 2 very good top lines and a very solid checking line.. Things change quickly in the NHL, there is so much parity..

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12-16-2012, 11:11 AM
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Over the last two nights, Alex Galchenyuk has 5 goals, 8 points. Over his last 17 games he has an astounding 19 goals, 40 points. @AGally94

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Galchenyuk has climbed to 2nd in OHL scoring, 1 pt behind Strome & tied for the lead in goals. In all, 27 G, 61 PTS in 33 GP. @AGally94

As if we needed any more reason to be ecstatic over this kid.

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Daniel Tolensky ‏@dtolensky
Over the last two nights, Alex Galchenyuk has 5 goals, 8 points. Over his last 17 games he has an astounding 19 goals, 40 points. @AGally94

Daniel Tolensky ‏@dtolensky
Galchenyuk has climbed to 2nd in OHL scoring, 1 pt behind Strome & tied for the lead in goals. In all, 27 G, 61 PTS in 33 GP. @AGally94

As if we needed any more reason to be ecstatic over this kid.
The real deal!

We had better make sure we get this guy legitimate talent to play with, outside of Pacioretty IMO we don't have anyone worthy of playing next to this guy currently in our line up.

Hopefully we can draft another high end forward this season. Barkov, Drouin or Monahan would be dreamy. MacKinnon would be orgasmic.

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12-16-2012, 11:21 AM
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I think Gally and DD would be great together, but Gally and Plekanec would be better for the team.

Gally is exactly the type of player that Plekanec needs on his line, he'd take a load of creative pressure off him. DD and Galchenyuk both like to handle the puck and have great vision. Galchenyuk's ability to be creative offensively would fit well with Plekanec's 2-way ability.

I'd personally go with this for the top 6:

Pacioretty Desharnais Cole
Galchenyuk Plekanec Bourque

And give the tougher defensive assignments to Eller's line. I think that taking away the pressure of being the only playmaker on his line and the top defensive forward on the team would serve Plekanec very well. He's always played great with offensive players.

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12-16-2012, 11:34 AM
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I think Gally and DD would be great together, but Gally and Plekanec would be better for the team.

Gally is exactly the type of player that Plekanec needs on his line, he'd take a load of creative pressure off him. DD and Galchenyuk both like to handle the puck and have great vision. Galchenyuk's ability to be creative offensively would fit well with Plekanec's 2-way ability.

I'd personally go with this for the top 6:

Pacioretty Desharnais Cole
Galchenyuk Plekanec Bourque

And give the tougher defensive assignments to Eller's line. I think that taking away the pressure of being the only playmaker on his line and the top defensive forward on the team would serve Plekanec very well. He's always played great with offensive players.
I feel like Gionta doesn't get enough credit around here. I'd definitely use him in a top 6 role over Bourque, at least until Bourque gets his act together and shows some sign of consistency, otherwise Gio outmatches him AINEpossibleanymore.

And if anyone wants to see Gally's hat trick and 2 helpers, here's video:

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/v...0f3b7e1fccaf0b

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The more I look at Alex Galchenyuk the more I think the best comparison is Ron Francis

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The more I look at Alex Galchenyuk the more I think the best comparison is Ron Francis
Better scoring instinct than RF though.

He only had a handful of 30 goal seasons in the highest scoring era in history, I think we will see Gally score 30+ on a regular basis.

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12-16-2012, 11:55 AM
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If Gally is in the NHL this season, he should be in the top 6.

Otherwise he goes back to Sarnia.

Don't see the point in using up a year of ELC/service time for 40 some games to play 12 minutes a night.
I don't know about him playing on the second line right away. I mean, he obvisouly is the most talented player we have in a very long time, but he still needs to make the transition from junior to pro, no matter if it's this year or next. Since he can't play in the AHL, I think the best way to make the transition quickly would be playing with Eller, even if it is just for the first 10ish games of the season.

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12-16-2012, 12:45 PM
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I think Gally and DD would be great together, but Gally and Plekanec would be better for the team.

Gally is exactly the type of player that Plekanec needs on his line, he'd take a load of creative pressure off him. DD and Galchenyuk both like to handle the puck and have great vision. Galchenyuk's ability to be creative offensively would fit well with Plekanec's 2-way ability.

I'd personally go with this for the top 6:

Pacioretty Desharnais Cole
Galchenyuk Plekanec Bourque

And give the tougher defensive assignments to Eller's line. I think that taking away the pressure of being the only playmaker on his line and the top defensive forward on the team would serve Plekanec very well. He's always played great with offensive players.
I would go with:

Pacioretty Desharnais Bourque
Galchenyuk Plekanec Cole

I think Plekanec and Bourque did not really click last year and I'd give Bourque the chance to click with Desharnais first. Also, Cole played well with Plekanec and I think he could help Galchenyuk being on a line with him.

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You are forgetting Gionta

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I feel like Gionta doesn't get enough credit around here. I'd definitely use him in a top 6 role over Bourque, at least until Bourque gets his act together and shows some sign of consistency, otherwise Gio outmatches him AINEpossibleanymore.

And if anyone wants to see Gally's hat trick and 2 helpers, here's video:

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/v...0f3b7e1fccaf0b
I think the point is to give Eller a winger who can score consistently, also mixing up the size on each line.

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You are forgetting Gionta
No one has forgotten Gionta.

Gionta would give balance to the 3rd line. It'd give Eller a good winger that will create most of his scoring chances with his speed and quick release. I don't like Bourque with Eller 'cause Eller hasn't shown that he can carry a teammate yet, while Plekanec has done it for the past several years without having a player like Galchenyuk in his line.

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I would go with:

Pacioretty Desharnais Bourque
Galchenyuk Plekanec Cole

I think Plekanec and Bourque did not really click last year and I'd give Bourque the chance to click with Desharnais first. Also, Cole played well with Plekanec and I think he could help Galchenyuk being on a line with him.
They didn't click cause they were playing with Ryan White who had no business on the 2nd line. Bourque will be a different player now that he's going to play with somebody that shoots from everywhere like Gionta.

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They didn't click cause they were playing with Ryan White who had no business on the 2nd line. Bourque will be a different player now that he's going to play with somebody that shoots from everywhere like Gionta.
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You are forgetting Gionta
I'd play Gionta with Plekanec but if Bourque gets back on track, I can't let the chance slip to have only 6'+ wingers to go with our small offensive centers on our top 6 ( Galchenyuk = 6'1", Patches/Bourque/Cole = 6'2") . Also, I think Eller deserves a good scoring winger on his line and I think Gionta would be a better fit than Bourque on a hard working skill/shutdown 3rd line.

Also, I get that Plekanec and Bourque didn't produce as much as they could've because they had a grinder on the other wing, but I think that even considering that, they weren't showing much chemistry together. Finally, if we want Galchenyuk on our top 6 with one of Desharnais or Plekanec, one of our scoring winger will need to play with Eller. If we exclude Patches and Cole, I've already explained why I'd prefer Gionta with Eller.

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I'm normally a big advocate of letting players over develop in the minors and bringing them up when they are beyond ready.

Gally IMO is a different player. We haven't had a prospect this good in a long time and as such I don't think the same rules apply.

Seeing him burn up the ohl it's obvious to me that he's not going to learn too much more in sarnia beyond this anymore. He's 1 point behind being the top scorer in the chl and he's one of the youngest in the scoring leader race. He can't play on the ahl and he's not going to learn much more in the O, so I see little choice but bringing him up with the Habs, if not this year, than next.

I'd let him start on the 3rd line to isolate him until he's played and gets used to the pace of play. Once he's wet his feet and is more comfortable, I think you have to play him on a top 6 line to play with quality forwards who he can learn from, I.e. Gio, Plex, Cole, patches etc. if he's going to be a core player he needs to learn from core players about what's expected and how to cope on the bigger stage just like Cole did for Patches last year.

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The lockout is a perfect timing for Gally as he can play half a season in the CHL to get his groove back and still be at the training camp and a Hab for the rest of the NHL season (that's in the case of a 2013 season).

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Personally i would go with

Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Galchenyuk - Plekanec - Gallagher/Gionta
Bourque - Eller - Gionta/Gallagher

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Personally i would go with

Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Galchenyuk - Plekanec - Gallagher/Gionta
Bourque - Eller - Gionta/Gallagher
Gallagher needs to stay in the AHL this year. Only way I see him up is with injuries. Hypothetically speaking obviously, as I doubt we'll even have Habs hockey this year...

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No one has forgotten Gionta.

Gionta would give balance to the 3rd line. It'd give Eller a good winger that will create most of his scoring chances with his speed and quick release. I don't like Bourque with Eller 'cause Eller hasn't shown that he can carry a teammate yet, while Plekanec has done it for the past several years without having a player like Galchenyuk in his line.
Gionta's a midget and while he plays big...i wouldn't want an aging 5'7 winger playing on a line where we need size energy and grit...

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We all know that MC won't break the top line:

Patch - DD - Cole
Galchenyuk - Plek - Gio
Prust - Eller - Bourque
Moen - Nokia - Armstrong
White

I think that line up, while not dominant, has some good depth, if White can play fourth line center effectively i'd replace Nokia by White.

Funny how our prospect pool has only small guys up front, size and physicality in the back end but the NHL group is exactly the contrary. Except for Bourque we only have hard workers in that line-up, no passenger allowed. And if we were to trade Bourque i could see Prust - Eller - Gallagher... Gallagher staring fire everywhere and Prust taking care of it.

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I would rather have a full year of Galchenuk at 22 than half a year at 18 on an ELC.

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We all know that MC won't break the top line:

Patch - DD - Cole
Galchenyuk - Plek - Gio
Prust - Eller - Bourque
Moen - White - Armstrong
Nokia

I think that line up, while not dominant, has some good depth, if White can play fourth line center effectively i'd replace Nokia by White.

Funny how our prospect pool has only small guys up front, size and physicality in the back end but the NHL group is exactly the contrary. Except for Bourque we only have hard workers in that line-up, no passenger allowed. And if we were to trade Bourque i could see Prust - Eller - Gallagher... Gallagher staring fire everywhere and Prust taking care of it.
fixed.....sorry but White earned a spot on this team and yes he can play center

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