Besides guys like Blake, Zubov, Lidstrom, Rafalski, Chelios, Housley, Lower, Nieds, Foote... he will also be competing with several guys that were 'passed over' due to the heavy star studded eligible classes from the late 90s-early 2000s. Brinad'Amour, Tkachuk, Roenick, Shanny, Fedorov, Kariya...
Besides guys like Blake, Zubov, Lidstrom, Rafalski, Chelios, Housley, Lower, Nieds, Foote... he will also be competing with several guys that were 'passed over' due to the heavy star studded eligible classes from the late 90s-early 2000s. Brinad'Amour, Tkachuk, Roenick, Shanny, Fedorov, Kariya...
Chara was nominated for the Norris trophy 5 times. Only 12 other defensemen in the history have achieved that. It would be very hard to make an argument against his induction.
Chara was nominated for the Norris trophy 5 times. Only 12 other defensemen in the history have achieved that. It would be very hard to make an argument against his induction.
For me, he's only been "Chara" as we know him for 8 years.
That's not a very long career. Granted, he's been outstanding in those 8 years, but it's just not a very long career at a high level.
Are there other players who have been allowed in with that short of a career? (Serious question, I don't know the answer and maybe I'm very wrong)
He'll probably be the third worst post-expansion offensive defenseman to be in the HHOF after Rod Langway and Serge Savard.
There are quite a few defensive defensemen who played before the 1967 expansion to be inducted.
Yep, though the change in the role of the defenseman post-expansion certainly helps keep that number down as well.
That said, I see Chara and Rob Blake as a good comparison. Difference is that Blake was better offensively and has a longevity edge, while Chara better defensively and Chara captained a team to a cup whereas Blake was traded to an already loaded team that same season for his.
I think most would consider Blake a rather safe pick to make the hall, so I'd say the same would probably be true for Chara at this point.
For me, he's only been "Chara" as we know him for 8 years.
That's not a very long career. Granted, he's been outstanding in those 8 years, but it's just not a very long career at a high level.
Are there other players who have been allowed in with that short of a career? (Serious question, I don't know the answer and maybe I'm very wrong)
Scott Niedermayer was only an outstanding (rather than merely great) player from 2002 to 2007 or so. Most people seem to think he's a first ballot Hall of Famer, so why not Chara?
Scott Niedermayer was only an outstanding (rather than merely great) player from 2002 to 2007 or so. Most people seem to think he's a first ballot Hall of Famer, so why not Chara?
His real prime was actually even smaller than that if we're discussing when he started getting real number 1 minutes.
Scott Niedermayer was only an outstanding (rather than merely great) player from 2002 to 2007 or so. Most people seem to think he's a first ballot Hall of Famer, so why not Chara?
Good question, as I said, I'm not a big "hall of fame knowledge" guy, I knew there were players I was overlooking.
yeah, average of 4 for Blake, 5.86 for Niedermayer, and 3.88 for Chara, but Niedermayer makes up for it in terms of awards: 4 stanley cups and two olympic golds
