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12-17-2012, 04:29 PM
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You have absolutely no idea do you?

You want Patches, you make an offer. If all you have to offer is spare parts that Montreal doesn't want, then let me quote your very own words and "get the hell out of here."

Montreal is not in the business of building a team for Edmonton. If your gm can't build his own team, then get another gm.
Haha...overreact much? Those weren't actually my words though...they were Mr.Fuss's.

I might have low balled with Hemmer and Paajarvi...but Max won't get you a Yakupov return IMO.

I'll tell Steve you send your condolences.


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Talk about the opinion not the poster, and make good rebuttals.

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I wouldn't do it, but how close is the value for the heck of it?

Montreal
Oshie/Perron
Stewart
Rattie/Jaskin

St. Louis
Pacioretty
Gorges
1st

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interesting thread, but Max Pac isnt going anywhere

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12-17-2012, 05:18 PM
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I wouldn't do it, but how close is the value for the heck of it?

Montreal
Oshie/Perron
Stewart
Rattie/Jaskin

St. Louis
Pacioretty
Gorges
1st
why not just oshie vs pac

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12-17-2012, 05:21 PM
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why not just oshie vs pac
Too much risk for the Blues. Losing Oshie without filling holes would be devastating to the female fan base here in St. Louis.

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12-17-2012, 05:30 PM
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Haha...overreact much? Those weren't actually my words though...they were Mr.Fuss's.

I might have low balled with Hemmer and Paajarvi...but Max won't get you a Yakupov return IMO.

I'll tell Steve you send your condolences.
If I were a Habs fan there's no way I'd say yes to Paccioretty for Yakupov right now. Yakupov hasn't played a game.

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12-17-2012, 06:02 PM
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If I were a Habs fan there's no way I'd say yes to Paccioretty for Yakupov right now. Yakupov hasn't played a game.
That's more then fair enough to say, Habs fan or not. Depends on how you value a proven asset like Max, compared to the potential of a 1st overall pick yet to play an NHL game. I for one think it would be foolish to trade Yakupov straight up based on his potential.

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Too much risk for the Blues. Losing Oshie without filling holes would be devastating to the female fan base here in St. Louis.


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I wouldn't do it, but how close is the value for the heck of it?

Montreal
Oshie/Perron
Stewart
Rattie/Jaskin

St. Louis
Pacioretty
Gorges
1st
So not only do we downgrade from Patches to Oshie/Perron, we also have to give up a first and one of the best defensive D in the league for your expendable assets?

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12-17-2012, 08:42 PM
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I wouldn't do it, but how close is the value for the heck of it?

Montreal
Oshie/Perron
Stewart
Rattie/Jaskin

St. Louis
Pacioretty
Gorges
1st
Take out Gorges please.

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I love the demands by Hab fans in this thread? <-- Not sure why this is a question mark.

Yakupov?

OEL?

Haha get the hell out of here.
post when yakupov scores 30 goals in the NHL

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12-17-2012, 08:48 PM
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That's more then fair enough to say, Habs fan or not. Depends on how you value a proven asset like Max, compared to the potential of a 1st overall pick yet to play an NHL game. I for one think it would be foolish to trade Yakupov straight up based on his potential.
of course because on HF trade boards potential always trumps factual reality and proof

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I am extremely interested to know what you feel this young fellow is worth in a trade.
No team will realistically pay what it takes to get him. Only way these kinds of trades happen is if the current team wants to dismantle their core and go in a totally different direction (ala Carter/Richards) or if the player has problems with the team.

No team will pay enough to make it worth Montreal moving Paccioretty.

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12-17-2012, 09:30 PM
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of course because on HF trade boards potential always trumps factual reality and proof
2000: DiPietro (Heatley)
2001: Kovalchuk
2002: Nash
2003: Fleury (Staal)
2004: Ovechkin
2005: Crosby
2006: Erik Johnson
2007: Patrick Kane
2008: Steven Stamkos
2009: John Tavares
2010: Taylor Hall


Looking at the last 10 years of draft, I'd be surpsied if Yakupov doesn't end up better than Pacioretty. The first forward taken in the last 10 years ended up being a tier or two above Pacioertty. First overall nowadays are almost guaranteed superstars.

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12-17-2012, 10:35 PM
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of course because on HF trade boards potential always trumps factual reality and proof
This is Hockeys Future boards.
Maybe a "Hockey old proven veteran boards" would be more appropriate to your ideology.

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12-17-2012, 11:50 PM
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post when yakupov scores 30 goals in the NHL
He's gonna score a lot more than 30...

IMO, I'd do the trade for max + for yakupov. Not a humongous big plus. Oils wouldn't I'm sure, but here we are regardless...

Habs are ok on d, fine at center, great in nets, **** on wings. The only way one of our best is leaving is for an upgrade to him

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12-18-2012, 11:32 AM
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Of course you would. You're essentially calling Max a franchise player. He's a great complimentary player that any team would love to have, but he's not gonna get you that big of a return IMO.

I would offer Hemsky + Paajarvi though.
Habs are already soft

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12-18-2012, 01:07 PM
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Any idea what it would take from the pens? I think he'd be a good long term option for the top 6 wing at a decent cap hit.

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Any idea what it would take from the pens? I think he'd be a good long term option for the top 6 wing at a decent cap hit.
Value-wise it would have to be something around Letang but even then I wouldn't make the trade from a Habs perspective.

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If I were a Habs fan there's no way I'd say yes to Paccioretty for Yakupov right now. Yakupov hasn't played a game.
yet Galchenyuk is the next coming of awesomeness.

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12-18-2012, 02:39 PM
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Of course you would. You're essentially calling Max a franchise player. He's a great complimentary player that any team would love to have, but he's not gonna get you that big of a return IMO.

I would offer Hemsky + Paajarvi though.
Great. As long as you give us Hall for Gallagher and Gionta. Let me know when to sign the papers...

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Any idea what it would take from the pens? I think he'd be a good long term option for the top 6 wing at a decent cap hit.
The Habs have no reason to help out Pittsburgh. I don't even care what the return is, we can't trade a top team in our conference our top forward.

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12-18-2012, 02:44 PM
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The Habs have no reason to help out Pittsburgh. I don't even care what the return is, we can't trade a top team in our conference our top forward.
Unless Neal is part of the deal...

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12-18-2012, 02:49 PM
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Ok, guys, seriously. If you are trying to get the best young power forward on a team, a great team guy who has already proven he can get 30 goals and 65 points, then you have to offer real significant value. You atually have to offer the type of value most teams do not want to give up to get him. It would be like asking for Nugent-Hopkins, one of the Sedins, Evander Kane, etc... There is no point to this and it is only going to become a worse pissing match than it already has.

Yakupov is not going to get you Pacioretty because he is smaller than we want, has concussion issues, and would be playing against the Bruins on a regular basis! If Yakupov received concussions playing against boys, I do not want to see what will become of him when he starts to get smashed around by Chara, Lucic, Thornton, McQuaid, etc...

Montreal has a great young power forward who plays with heart. If you have nothing similar or better to offer, don't bother playing. Hemsky and fricking Paajarvi...give me a ******* break.

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