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12-17-2012, 07:53 PM
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how about they make the playoffs first.

everyone said the same thing about the Marlins and Angels last year and look how that ended up.
They're saying the same thing about the Angels this year lol. I don't think any serious baseball guys had the Marlins as a World Series contender. A playoff contender, perhaps but the NL East was always going to be a tough nut to crack with Atlanta-Philly and that was before the Nats bubbled up.


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Bold prediction: Milwaukee Brewers will not win the world series.

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Bold prediction: Milwaukee Brewers will not win the world series.
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I don't think the Yankees will be a World Series winner either.

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12-19-2012, 08:25 AM
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The Jays are making all the right moves in order to be a force in AL east. I'm definitly going to attend about 10 to 15 games next year.

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Pretty amazing that the Jays went from about a 100/1 chance of winning the World Series to being the favourites at 8/1 and they only made one noteworthy free agent signing. AA has to be the best GM in the league if they live up to expectations.

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2011 Red sox. 2012 Marlins.

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if they live up to expectations.
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12-19-2012, 11:54 AM
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2011 Red sox. 2012 Marlins.
You can say the same about the Yankees

For fans of the Blue Jays, it's just a breath of fresh air and to finally be able to say that "they might" compete for the division title is already a massive bonus... something they couldn't say for close to 15 years now.

One step at a time.

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You can say the same about the Yankees
2009 was their most recent spending spree and they won the WS

Both the Sox and Marlins respectively went on a spending spree in the years mentioned and bottomed out

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Jays didn't sign a bunch of players to large contracts, they got most of them via trades. So they aren't exactly doing what the Sox and Marlins did.

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Jays didn't sign a bunch of players to large contracts, they got most of them via trades. So they aren't exactly doing what the Sox and Marlins did.
What difference does whether they were traded for or signed as FAs make? They took on money and they are now responsible for paying that money to those players...

Point of the Sox/Marlins post was let's play the games first, not to say the Jays will bottom out

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Jays didn't sign a bunch of players to large contracts, they got most of them via trades. So they aren't exactly doing what the Sox and Marlins did.
They still have the high expectations after trading for so many big name players. Doesn't matter how they were acquired, although the purist in me appreciates Anthopoulous's wheeling and dealing as opposed to the massive spending the Dodgers are doing.

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2009 was their most recent spending spree and they won the WS

Both the Sox and Marlins respectively went on a spending spree in the years mentioned and bottomed out
The Yankees throw cash around like it's no one's business but when another team does it, we have to be patient and wait things out before saying their contenders.

Bottom line is that the Jays fanbase should be thrilled about the recent additions and the usual suspects in that division should be "worried"

It's about time we talked about another team then the Yanks and Sox coming out of the AL east.

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The Yankees throw cash around like it's no one's business but when another team does it, we have to be patient and wait things out before saying their contenders.

Bottom line is that the Jays fanbase should be thrilled about the recent additions and the usual suspects in that division should be "worried"

It's about time we talked about another team then the Yanks and Sox coming out of the AL east.
That isn't why at all

The Yankees have pretty consistently been a 90+ game winner and playoff team so the additions they made in the off-season were expected to make the team even better than it was in that prior year

When the Jays or Marlins make some big off-season acquisitions, there is doubt and rightfully so of what those additions could do to the team because of the year(s) prior when the team did not finish well (perfect example in the NHL would be the Wild with this past off-season)

The Rays and most recently the O's have been names to be reckoned with coming out of the AL East along with the Yanks - the Sox haven't been in the playoffs in 3 years, they haven't been a threat at all recently - you're talking about the best division in the league, where this coming season each team is capable of winning 80+ games

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I love how Michael Bourn oringinally thought he could sneak it past teams that he's completely average. I hope the Yankees have nothing to do with him.

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12-19-2012, 08:33 PM
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That isn't why at all

The Yankees have pretty consistently been a 90+ game winner and playoff team so the additions they made in the off-season were expected to make the team even better than it was in that prior year

When the Jays or Marlins make some big off-season acquisitions, there is doubt and rightfully so of what those additions could do to the team because of the year(s) prior when the team did not finish well (perfect example in the NHL would be the Wild with this past off-season)

The Rays and most recently the O's have been names to be reckoned with coming out of the AL East along with the Yanks - the Sox haven't been in the playoffs in 3 years, they haven't been a threat at all recently - you're talking about the best division in the league, where this coming season each team is capable of winning 80+ games
Baseball has to be the sport were team play isn't all that important. If you have solid talent at the plate, on the mound and can avoid the injury bug, you have a solid shot at making the playoffs if you're dressing a superior lineup then the team you are facing.

The Jays are making all the right moves ATM and they are contenders when looking at their lineup... on paper. Now, they just have to execute on the field and the results should be there.

The Yankees have been on top of the world for years cause they've been investing more money then any other baseball team in the league, period. When you dish out cash like they do, it just has to pay off and the results are there to prove it. It's no surprise that the Royals have been bottom feaders since god knows when.

The only exception is the Oakland A's. They have a tight budget and always compete for the AL West but like in anything, there's always exceptions to the rule.

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Baseball has to be the sport were team play isn't all that important. If you have solid talent at the plate, on the mound and can avoid the injury bug, you have a solid shot at making the playoffs if you're dressing a superior lineup then the team you are facing.

The Jays are making all the right moves ATM and they are contenders when looking at their lineup... on paper. Now, they just have to execute on the field and the results should be there.

The Yankees have been on top of the world for years cause they've been investing more money then any other baseball team in the league, period. When you dish out cash like they do, it just has to pay off and the results are there to prove it. It's no surprise that the Royals have been bottom feaders since god knows when.

The only exception is the Oakland A's. They have a tight budget and always compete for the AL West but like in anything, there's always exceptions to the rule.
What about the Rays? They aren't a money spending franchise either.

Look at the Dodgers, Cubs and even the Angels in recent years, where did there big payrolls lead them.

So no, the Yankees aren't good only because of their payroll. They're good because they're a world class franchise that continuously pumps out talent.

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The only exception is the Oakland A's. They have a tight budget and always compete for the AL West but like in anything, there's always exceptions to the rule.
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What about the Rays? They aren't a money spending franchise either.
Over the last few years, the Rays have been setting the bar for small market clubs. Although I wonder if they would have gotten a title had they drafted Buster Posey #1 in 2008 instead of high school SS Tim Beckham.

Whole lot of nothing going on with the Padres. Mild reason for optimism as they closed the season 42-33 after the All Star Break. But it still looks like the ownership is still getting sorted out. At least they're moving the fences in this year.

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-Kazmir to the Indians on a minor league deal

-Liriano to the Pirates, 2yrs @ $14m

-Pierzensky to the Rangers, 1yr @ $7.5m

-Edwin Jackson to the Cubs, 4yrs @ $52m

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-Kazmir to the Indians on a minor league deal
Here's hoping that he uses "Wild Thing" as his warm up music.

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-Liriano to the Pirates, 2yrs @ $14m

-Pierzensky to the Rangers, 1yr @ $7.5m
I miss the days when I could tease my Giants friends endlessly about Brian Sabean trading away Joe Nathan and Liriano for one year of Pierzynski.

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-Edwin Jackson to the Cubs, 4yrs @ $52m
Amazingly this is Jackson's 8th team in ten years.

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Kazmir is finished. He's beyond worthless.

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Remember when Liriano was the best thing since sliced bread?

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Lol, yeah I guess that trade the Giants made wasn't so terrible after all.

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