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12-19-2012, 08:56 PM
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Rene Bourque and one of our second picks. I would absolutely love to have Seto in Montreal!

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12-19-2012, 09:06 PM
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If I were Minnesota, I would not do a Setoguchi for Raymond or Bourque swap.
Nor I.

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What are your needs? Obviously anyone acquired would have to be extremely cheap. I'd be up for a Raymond / Setoguchi swap. Raymond missed the start of the season due to his broken back suffered in the SCF the year prior, so he obviously didn't have a very impressive season statistically. With Raymond though you know at the very least you're getting an excellent PK'er, two-way forward who could be very good in a greater role if he rebounds.

Swap makes sense for Vancouver as we have many good PKers and leftys, we're weak at RW. Balance it if you see fit! Minnesota gets a bit of cap relief for what it's worth.
Top 4 LHD. And Ballard probably wouldn't work.

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Seto is currently the only forward in our top 6 that is a right handed shot. If we're gonna trade Seto it's gonna be in a package deal for an upgrade, not a downgrade.
Or help out the blueline.

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12-19-2012, 09:54 PM
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It sounds like you'd be interested in Justin Braun (younger) or Douglas Murray (#4 LHD, pending UFA). We really, really miss Setoguchi's goal-scoring and speed last year, especially in the playoffs. Thornton and Setoguchi were very good together.

Setoguchi seemed to really like San Jose and we still love him. It stills bothers me how Wilson traded him so soon after he signed his deal.

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12-19-2012, 10:06 PM
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I'd be interested in seeing what Seto + Clutterbuck + Phillips could net us.

I'd be looking for 1 or 2 assets coming back, not 3-4.
Green + for Gilbert + Seto + Clutterbuck?

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12-19-2012, 10:24 PM
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Setoguchi
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Korpikoski

posted it a few months back...

or a basis for a much larger trade
Hay! Don't do that please lol. We have D prospects that we could use, not one of our top PK guys, and certainly not one who adds 15 goals each season.. Lets use Rundblad and a 3rd.

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12-19-2012, 10:25 PM
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Yea I miss seto when I heard he got traded I was bummed

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12-19-2012, 10:30 PM
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Green + for Gilbert + Seto + Clutterbuck?

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12-20-2012, 03:12 AM
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Hay! Don't do that please lol. We have D prospects that we could use, not one of our top PK guys, and certainly not one who adds 15 goals each season.. Lets use Rundblad and a 3rd.
I think Wild and Pho make good trading partners, we can take some money back with seto and he is affordable for a scorer.

This wouldn't be a bad deal to work off of tho

How would the Yotes feel about Michael Stone instead of Rundblad?

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12-20-2012, 03:36 AM
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i've always liked him what from the Leafs?

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i've always liked him what from the Leafs?
I can see Minnesota being interested in Gunnarsson from the leafs point of view.

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Straight up? I think you need to add. Not much, maybe a mid-rounder? Something like Korpedo + 4th for Seto might work just fine.
I don't think so, not for the different roles he plays in. If anything, Korpi may have more value because he is more of a defensive forward, pk-er type of player.

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Hay! Don't do that please lol. We have D prospects that we could use, not one of our top PK guys, and certainly not one who adds 15 goals each season.. Lets use Rundblad and a 3rd.
I don't think Fletcher would make that deal. I wouldn't want to trade Korpi either, but you have to give to get, even though GMDM tends to get more than he gives.

I started off thinking about a Brodziak & Setoguchi for Korpikoski & Morris trade and then thinking about Coyle. Decided to make it simple.

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12-20-2012, 08:40 AM
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What with the cap concerns in Minnesota, isn't it more likely that Heatley is moved instead of Setoguchi? 7.5mil for the guy is a lot considering you already have Parise and Koivu around that mark. You could probably move Heatley for a top 4 defender and some depth players.

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What with the cap concerns in Minnesota, isn't it more likely that Heatley is moved instead of Setoguchi? 7.5mil for the guy is a lot considering you already have Parise and Koivu around that mark. You could probably move Heatley for a top 4 defender and some depth players.
To trade someone, you need takers and he burned bridges! Moving Setoguchi would be a lot easier, IMO.

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Green + for Gilbert + Seto + Clutterbuck?
This is bad. I almost rather have Gilbert over Green straight up.

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12-20-2012, 10:10 AM
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What with the cap concerns in Minnesota, isn't it more likely that Heatley is moved instead of Setoguchi? 7.5mil for the guy is a lot considering you already have Parise and Koivu around that mark. You could probably move Heatley for a top 4 defender and some depth players.
It makes more sense if you just look at the dollars, but Heatley was an absolute model citizen here , is really liked in the locker room, is a better all-around player, produced at a higher level and produced more consistently than Seto did, even as the quality of his linemates declined.

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Possibly.

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What would get Seto back to SJ? Any interest in Justin Braun?
Definitely.

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Setoguchi
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Korpikoski

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or a basis for a much larger trade
Heck yeah. Korpikoski and Koivu are amazing together.

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king , martinez and / gagne ( if u want him that is) for seto and clutter

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This is bad. I almost rather have Gilbert over Green straight up.


Green could be a long term solution to having a legitimate top pairing caliber partner for Suter. We'd probably need to add a bit value wise, hence the +.

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Green could be a long term solution to having a legitimate top pairing caliber partner for Suter. We'd probably need to add a bit value wise, hence the +.
Green's value isn't exactly sky high after all his injury issues the last couple seasons.

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Green could be a long term solution to having a legitimate top pairing caliber partner for Suter. We'd probably need to add a bit value wise, hence the +.
(Doing my best Jim Ross impression) Good God, that's Jonas Brodin's music!

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I can see Minnesota being interested in Gunnarsson from the leafs point of view.
Fair value wise but as was pointed out before the leafs really are not in any way able to move Gunnar after moving out Schenn.

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(Doing my best Jim Ross impression) Good God, that's Jonas Brodin's music!
Your idea of a long term partner for Suter is a mobile defensive LD who doesn't have much of a shot, offensive or physical game?

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Green's value isn't exactly sky high after all his injury issues the last couple seasons.
None of his injuries were of a chronic nature though. He's in a similar position Burns was when San Jose traded for him.

I just found someone taking Gilbert over him hilarious.

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Your idea of a long term partner for Suter is a mobile defensive LD who doesn't have much of a shot, offensive or physical game?
He's 19. Those traits can develop (minus probably the physical game, but whatever). Also, while he is left-handed, he plays on the right side. Suter can carry the offensive aspect for a while if need be, but Brodin will get there in a hurry.

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I would do something around a Setoguchi/Braun swap with San Jose without thinking twice.

Given Phoenix's depth on the back end, I would also be interested in a lot of what that organization has to offer. Granted, you'd have your players not at all on the table from PHX's side, a couple who would need to garner more than just Setoguchi himself, and a few unproven prospects. But I think these two teams would make suitable trading partners.

Pretty crazy difference between the perception and realities of Heatley's game. He was by far the Wild's top player last year. And when all the injuries and hardship hit, he stood out even more as a leader. He's one of the last players I'd want to see moved off this roster. I don't think the Wild will have any troubles floating Heatley's cap number for the duration of his deal and I think he's a player the Wild will look to retain once his deal is up as well.

Setoguchi is pretty much on the other end of the spectrum over his short tenure in Minnesota, from my perspective.

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