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12-20-2012, 01:33 PM
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Your forgetting the Vikes

Vikes win out = Vikes make it
Fortunately there is 0 chance of Minnesota winning out.

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12-20-2012, 02:13 PM
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Agreed, and hopefully you'll be part of the past in a couple weeks. You can take Urlacher with you to Arizona, see ya.
Its so hard for me to root against the Bears

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It's pretty easy for me to. Winning these next 2 games does nothing to help you achieve the ultimate goal, winning the Super Bowl. All it does is weaken the team long term if Lovie is kept.

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12-20-2012, 02:53 PM
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Its so hard for me to root against the Bears
I don't think any of us have to. This comes down to Emery seeing things for what they are, not winning the next two or losing them.

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It's pretty easy for me to. Winning these next 2 games does nothing to help you achieve the ultimate goal, winning the Super Bowl. All it does is weaken the team long term if Lovie is kept.
I know and I fully understand, but I really like these players. We are witnessing the end of some of the greatest Bears to ever play for the organization and its hard to root for them to lose. Peanut, Briggs, Urlacher....its the end of an era and its hard for me to want them to go out with a historic losing streak.

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I know and I fully understand, but I really like these players. We are witnessing the end of some of the greatest Bears to ever play for the organization and its hard to root for them to lose. Peanut, Briggs, Urlacher....its the end of an era and its hard for me to want them to go out with a historic losing streak.
I'm torn. I want to roll the dice in the playoffs. I also know if we make the playoffs and lose, we're ****ed for years to come.

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12-20-2012, 03:55 PM
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I'm torn. I want to roll the dice in the playoffs. I also know if we make the playoffs and lose, we're ****ed for years to come.
Nah, with the way this team drafts it is a crap shoot.

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12-20-2012, 07:26 PM
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Bears are built to win now ,, McClellin was a terrible reach and even if we switch to a 3-4 there is no guarantee he will be any better

And it is alot easier for a DE from college to adjust to NFL level then a QB so Peyton's 1st year struggles on terrible team weren't a shock

When dozen's of defensive players are outplaying your 1st round pick (19th overall) ,, It is an issue

Well even the greatest DE of all time that is the 2nd coming of Christ Chandler Jones wouldn't have changed anything about the outcome of this season.

The issue with this team isn't just the personal and adding 1 good pick wouldn't have changed anything with this team.

Emerys job is to not only try to win now but also build for the future. Again I am not about to judge a pick on half a season. McCellin could be a great fit in the 3-4 that Emery plans to run next year and in 4 years suddenly we are talking about McCellin being a good pick.

A draft is for building the future of your team, not trying to change your team in the same season. You aren't drafting a player and hoping in that same year he turns your team around at 19 or anything after the top 5. Let's not kid ourselves and act like any pick made this year changes anything about this team, that's nonsense.

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Is the guy still around that was making these 1st round picks?

1980 19 Otis Wilson Linebacker, 2nd Round - Suhey
1981 11 Keith Van Horne Offensive tackle, 2nd Round - Singletary
1982 5 Jim McMahon Quarterback
1983 6 Jim Covert Offensive tackle
1983 18 Willie Gault Wide receiver , 8th Round - Richard Dent
1984 11 Wilber Marshall Linebacker
1985 22 William Perry Defensive tackle
1986 27 Neal Anderson Half Back


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12-21-2012, 01:50 AM
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Its a message board ,, Grammer is not vital to discussions



In past it has been my run on sentences and excessive use of exclamation points that has annoyed people



Bears are built to win now ,, McClellin was a terrible reach and even if we switch to a 3-4 there is no guarantee he will be any better

And it is alot easier for a DE from college to adjust to NFL level then a QB so Peyton's 1st year struggles on terrible team weren't a shock

When dozen's of defensive players are outplaying your 1st round pick (19th overall) ,, It is an issue

Emery blew it ,, Team had more vital needs and we selected a terrible 4-3 DE who may someday play in 3-4 system he was intended



Jones in 12 games has

21 solo tackles
17 assisted tackles
6 Sacks
3 forced fumbles
3 pass deflections

That is alot of value ,, Imagine Peppers/Wootton/Jones/Idonije in rotation

Jones is also capable of playing both 4-3/3-4 ,,, There is no reason that he shouldn't have been Bears pick

Since when does Marinelli value players who are absolutely worthless against run? Bears got rid of Anderson because he wasn't getting sacks and was a liablity in run D

McClellin looks alot worse then Anderson ever did with regards to run D



Still absolute horrid logic for a GM to draft a guy who doesn't fit current coaches scheme because he may someday get a coach who has a 3-4 system

If Lovie's team didn't fold this year ,, He would have likely gotten an extension thus making Emery choosing 3-4 guy based on plans to someday not have Lovie idiotic

There is just no explanation that makes any sense as to why Bears wasted a 1st rounder

And Sarava explain to me how my views on McClellin are any different then yours with regards to Kevin Hayes/Emerson Etem


http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=248



I wanted Chandler Jones and it has been proven blunder by Bears
You wanted Etem and we went with Hayes ,, Verdict still out there
Whoa relax - I wasn't taking either side on the McClellin argument. I just remember at the time he was drafted that that was speculated. Because he seemed undersized for a 4-3 DE. If I had a to take a side I'd probably take your side in that I would have probably went a different direction.

But if you're going to compare Kevin Hayes - remember he was drafted 2 1/2 years ago, not 6 months ago.

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