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12-20-2012, 03:22 PM
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Evander Kane

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opi...184226401.html

im not saying I agree with this article but what would teams be willing to give up? and what would the jets want in return?

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12-20-2012, 03:37 PM
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Really, what's the harm in Kane's early-morning tweet on Wednesday containing a picture of himself holding stacks of cash on a Las Vegas hotel balcony? None, except for the virulent reaction it set off from both media and fans.

There was no crime, no one was hurt and in many ways, the incident can easily be sloughed off as a 21-year-old blowing off steam.

Wow. Talk about creating a mountain out of a molehill
So, he's still got some maturing to do.
The kid's 21/22 and a develping stud.

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12-20-2012, 03:39 PM
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Wow. Talk about creating a mountain out of a molehill
So, he's still got some maturing to do.
The kid's 21/22 and a develping stud.
Lawless is a terrible excuse for a "journalist" IMO.

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12-20-2012, 03:41 PM
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i really don't know why people are being so sensitive over this picture and i would lmao off if he were to be traded cause of this but it won't happen still would like to see how high people value kane

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12-20-2012, 04:08 PM
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To me the picture is funny and who cares sorta thing but its a part of a developing pattern in his behaviour ( i seem to recall reports of him skipping out on a bill at a local resteruant. )

As for what would la trade for him what are winnipegs needs ? king would have interest for sure

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Lawless is a terrible excuse for a "journalist" IMO.
Agreed. I would add "person".

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12-20-2012, 04:14 PM
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To me the picture is funny and who cares sorta thing but its a part of a developing pattern in his behaviour ( i seem to recall reports of him skipping out on a bill at a local resteruant. )

As for what would la trade for him what are winnipegs needs ? king would have interest for sure
Young, potential star players kind of like Evander Kane.

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Young, potential star players kind of like Evander Kane.
Only kings i can think of that may qualify is toffoli or voynov ? if im missing someone that interest u please ask or state a trade offer

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To me the picture is funny and who cares sorta thing but its a part of a developing pattern in his behaviour ( i seem to recall reports of him skipping out on a bill at a local resteruant. )

As for what would la trade for him what are winnipegs needs ? king would have interest for sure
I thought that Kane and his agent, came out and denied that Kane had left restaurants without paying.

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I thought that Kane and his agent, came out and denied that Kane had left restaurants without paying.
I m not sure whatever happened to that rumour all i know is it shows something about his character that it was a story. I would think the agent would deny it till there proof of it that he cant deny To me its showing he doesn't fit in winterpeg

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2017-2018 deadline.

a 1st round pick and B prospect.

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12-20-2012, 04:31 PM
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An A prospect/1st rounder or young 2nd line player, another 1st rounder and then a useful part younger player at the minimum.

For example:

From Nashville: Colin Wilson, a 1st rounder and Jonathan Blum

From Phoenix: Gormley, a 1st rounder and Boedker

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I m not sure whatever happened to that rumour all i know is it shows something about his character that it was a story. I would think the agent would deny it till there proof of it that he cant deny To me its showing he doesn't fit in winterpeg
According to the article below, the NHL front office investigated the rumor of running out of restaurants without paying and found it to be baseless. The article does say
Kane's business manager approached Winnipeg restaurants asking for cash in exchange for endorsement tweets from the player. Was that greedy? Maybe.

All the Vega$ picture shows, is that the kid is immature.

If a player has a substance abuse problem, that imo would be a reason to move a player. A lazy work ethic, that the coaches can't get past? Ok. That's a good reason to trade a player.

But, trading a 21 yr old, 30 goal scorer because he still needs to mature, because he's a show a off ? Nah. Gotta have a better reason then that to trade a budding franchise player.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/spo...137844063.html

Some wiseguy hears a rumour and takes a sign to a hockey game slandering Kane. Someone else takes a picture of the sign and puts it on Twitter and whoosh -- the whole thing catches fire. Websites, Facebook pages and Twitter accounts repeated rumour after rumour about Kane on Saturday with no evidence to support the claims. Posts became so inflammatory on the Free Press website Saturday night the comments section was shut down.



The Jets were refusing comment on Saturday, but in making calls to Winnipeg restaurants I was able to learn that NHL security had conducted an investigation into the matter. A Jets executive confirmed this and stated the investigation came up empty. The folks in the restaurant business that I spoke with had good things to say about Kane.


Back in October Kane's so-called business manager -- not to be confused with his very reputable agent, Craig Oster -- approached Winnipeg restaurants asking for cash in exchange for endorsement tweets from the player.

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12-20-2012, 04:39 PM
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Lawless, the Kane haters from the time before he signed a 6-year deal with the Jets called, they want their rumors back.

Also, they called from a stack of hundred dollar bills.

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We've done this thread before and we always come to the consensus that:

A)Kane is not a problem in Winnipeg and there's in reason to trade him.

B)He's worth more than anyone is willing to give up.

Of course not everyone adheres to this and things turn ugly.

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He's not going to be traded. Any offer would be terrible for one of the two sides.

A "fair value" trade is bad for the Jets, as we really like him and want to see him grow into a big player for the team.

A "gross value" trade isn't going to be offered. No team will give up what we would want to trade him.

Each team has 2-3 guys that just aren't on the table. Kane is one for the Jets.

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Michalek + Zibanejad + 1st

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Michalek + Zibanejad + 1st
No way Ottawa offers that, and if they did, no way Winnipeg doesn't take it.

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Michalek + Zibanejad + 1st
I wouldn't add the first. Michalek + Zibanejad is the maximum I would do.

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Thanks for knocking out Cooke, but hell no. This kid is messed up and do not want a spoiled brat like that.

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12-20-2012, 06:15 PM
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Wasn't that long ago that some Win fans were saying Kane > Bobby Ryan. Times change. Still, this seems premature. He's still young, and plenty talented. This would be selling low on him.

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Thanks for knocking out Cooke, but hell no. This kid is messed up and do not want a spoiled brat like that.
Over exaggerate(sp) much?

A young man who hits a woman is messed up.A young man who abuses drugs or alcohol, is messed up. I don't recall any accusations like that being leveled against E. Kane.

Immature? Yep. Good thing at 21, he has plenty of yrs in front of him to gain maturity

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Wasn't that long ago that some Win fans were saying Kane > Bobby Ryan. Times change. Still, this seems premature. He's still young, and plenty talented. This would be selling low on him.
Given the choice between 21 yr old Kane and 26/27 yr old Ryan, I'd look closely at Kane having 5 and a 1/2 yrs on his contract vs. Ryan having 2 and 1/2 yrs on his contract. I'd look at their production, their salaries and prefer Kane.

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Given the choice between 21 yr old Kane and 26/27 yr old Ryan, I'd look closely at Kane having 5 and a 1/2 yrs on his contract vs. Ryan having 2 and 1/2 yrs on his contract. I'd look at their production, their salaries and prefer Kane.
That wasn't what the discussion was about at the time. It was a discussion on who the better player was, and how Kane was going to breakout. Even so, I'd still take the consistent 30-goal scorer, who has been doing it without 1st unit PP time. Maybe it's just me, but results mean something.

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That wasn't what the discussion was about at the time. It was a discussion on who the better player was, and how Kane was going to breakout. Even so, I'd still take the consistent 30-goal scorer, who has been doing it without 1st unit PP time. Maybe it's just me, but results mean something.

Ryan's a star in this league, but so is Kane.

There is no reason to think Kane, just like Ryan has, can't develop and consistently score 30+ goals a season.

And Kane's 5/6 yrs younger then Ryan, along with being further from unrestricted free agency.

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