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12-20-2012, 07:15 PM
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Schenn for JVR

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Versteeg for a 1st and 3rd.

I liked versteeg, should've been MacArthur instead, but obviously you can't deal a player having a 60 pt season at the time.

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12-20-2012, 07:48 PM
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If I had to choose one Penguins trade, it would be Zbynek Michalek for Harrison Ruopp, Marc Cheverie and a 3rd round pick.

I don't hate the trade, Ruopp was a guy Pittsburgh was looking at in the 2nd round in 2011 before they took Harrington, then he ended up being selected with the 3rd round pick we traded so we got a player we wanted. I just think the Pens could have worked out a better deal with the Coyotes.

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12-20-2012, 07:56 PM
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None from Boston...

Only one that comes close is the Kaberle, but we won the cup last year. We might not have without him, I'm happy with the way it turned out. Colborne had no future with us, it was the the last pick in the 1st round(which we had the 9th in,) and a 2nd.

Besides that you can't criticize Chiarelli for pretty much anything... Kelly and Peverley are crucial to this team and we didn't break the bank by any means getting them. Kampfer didn't have that much of a future, Zanon was "meh" but good enough, and finally Rolston and Mottau actually played a big role late in the season.. We gave the Islanders 2 ECHL-for-life players. Wouldn't undo any trade.

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12-20-2012, 08:09 PM
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Viktor Stalberg, Chris DiDomenico and Philippe Paradis


Kris Versteeg and Bill Sweatt

Wasn't worth losing Stalberg alone, nevermind a big C and DiDomenico, who would've been a fan favourite la Darcy Tucker once he graduated to the Leafs roster (should it have ever happened).
Stalberg is a borderline 3rd/2nd liner, while Dido and Paradis will never play a game in the NHL.

Stuart Percy (picked with the 1st acquired for Versteeg) should be a solid Dman for us for years to come. Dido is currently playing in Italy (...and not because of the lockout). Paradis currently has 3 pts in 15 AHL games. Hes a definite bust.

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12-20-2012, 08:49 PM
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Viktor Stalberg, Chris DiDomenico and Philippe Paradis

Kris Versteeg and Bill Sweatt

Wasn't worth losing Stalberg alone, nevermind a big C and DiDomenico, who would've been a fan favourite la Darcy Tucker once he graduated to the Leafs roster (should it have ever happened).
lol wut.. Stalberg had no chance of recieving a 1st in value, and Versteeg was decentish, And that's funny if you think Didomenico is going to become something near Tucker, that would be Ross' future. And the 1st we got from Versteeg, is now Percy, a OHL captain with a good potential to become a solid #4.
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Can't think of one for Boston.
I know you guys defend it with we won the cup, but really, that Kaberle trade turned out to be worse than a ufa signing, in February calibre.

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12-20-2012, 08:57 PM
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I'd like to undo the Flames hiring Jay Feaster. Which would then undo every move he has made.

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12-20-2012, 09:11 PM
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lol wut.. Stalberg had no chance of recieving a 1st in value, and Versteeg was decentish, And that's funny if you think Didomenico is going to become something near Tucker, that would be Ross' future. And the 1st we got from Versteeg, is now Percy, a OHL captain with a good potential to become a solid #4.

I know you guys defend it with we won the cup, but really, that Kaberle trade turned out to be worse than a ufa signing, in February calibre.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Kaberle lead the Bruins defencemen in playoff scoring. Gotta count for something.

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12-20-2012, 09:23 PM
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Given that we have a Holtby, no ****

Between Holtby and Varlamov I still think Varlamov will ultimately be better. Similar mental state, more talent.
Calm down buddy i'm just saying that I am glad with how things went and I am happy to have Holtby as our starter and Forsberg on our team.

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12-20-2012, 09:33 PM
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Any Leaf fan that wouldn't undo the Kessel trade is not being real.

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12-20-2012, 09:35 PM
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Any Leaf fan that wouldn't undo the Kessel trade is not being real.
Not necessarily. If it was Seguin/Hamilton for Kessel, sure. But it was 2 unknowns, and the Leafs were a lot worse than we all expected. Apparently goalies are important.

At the time it was great, and Kessel has been really solid for us.

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12-20-2012, 09:41 PM
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You're a fool to think the Habs won that trade.
Never said they did, but they lost more in Kaberle vs Spacek IMHO. I would have loved that 4.25 million cap space. Cammaleri was kinda actively getting himself out of town by saying the team was playing with a loser mentality and other GMs knew it.

Could we have got a better return for Cammaleri? Sure, but you guys make it sound like it was Gomez 2.0. Hell, knowing Timmins' talent with second rounders and how deep that draft is, wouldn't be surprised to get an impact player as good as Cammaleri from that 2nd. Holland may become a third liner and Bourque is habitually a 20-goal scorer.

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12-20-2012, 09:43 PM
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Any Leaf fan that wouldn't undo the Kessel trade is not being real.
Hey bud, most of us would, but if you were to look at the criteria which is summer 2010, and as the Kessel trade was made in summer of 09, that's why it hasn't been posted.

Your username was a good choice.

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12-20-2012, 09:50 PM
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Undo the Ballard trade.

-GMMG feels forced to re-sign Willie M for 10M/3 years
-Signs Hamhuis anyway
-Maybe trade Grabner for a 2nd round pick or something like that (wasn't going to stick anyway)

2010-11 D-corps:

Edler-Ehrhoff
Hamhuis-Bieksa
Mitchell-Salo
Rome-Tanev

Win Stanley Cup.

Re-sign Ehrhoff at 4.5/7 years

2011-12 D-corps:

Edler-Ehrhoff
Hamhuis-Bieksa
Mitchell-Salo/Tanev

Don't trade Hodgson

Repeat as SCF champions

Trade Ehrhoff for Kassian

Sign Garrison

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Edler-Garrison
Mitchell-Tanev
Alberts-K-Conn

Have Howden and whatever boom-or-bust prospect from Grabner trade in the system. Have both Hodgson and Kassian.


????

Proooofit!

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12-20-2012, 09:50 PM
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Never said they did, but they lost more in Kaberle vs Spacek IMHO. I would have loved that 4.25 million cap space. Cammaleri was kinda actively getting himself out of town by saying the team was playing with a loser mentality and other GMs knew it.

Could we have got a better return for Cammaleri? Sure, but you guys make it sound like it was Gomez 2.0. Hell, knowing Timmins' talent with second rounders and how deep that draft is, wouldn't be surprised to get an impact player as good as Cammaleri from that 2nd. Holland may become a third liner and Bourque is habitually a 20-goal scorer.
Then why did we not?

Do you think our GM accepted a lower offer for Cammaleri than the best offer around the league?

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12-20-2012, 10:10 PM
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Then why did we not?

Do you think our GM accepted a lower offer for Cammaleri than the best offer around the league?
I don't think Gauthier knew what a bidding war was... See the Halak trade (not a horrible return, but not great, like in this trade)

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12-20-2012, 10:20 PM
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I don't think Gauthier knew what a bidding war was... See the Halak trade (not a horrible return, but not great, like in this trade)
As a GM willing to trade a player, how do you start a bidding war to increase your player value?

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12-20-2012, 10:29 PM
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Wasnt that like 6 years ago?
Man, your perception of time is messed up.

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As a GM willing to trade a player, how do you start a bidding war to increase your player value?
Gauthier could have at least called a few other GM's to say Cammy was available to see what else he could get.

If I remember correctly, some anonymous GM told the media he would have offered more had he known Cammy was available after the trade had happened.

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12-20-2012, 10:59 PM
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Not really one I can think of. I was sad to see the hometown kid Ben Bishop go, but the 2nd rounder was certainly enough value and he likely wouldn't see full time action in St. Louis for the foreseeable future. Other than that, I'm satisfied with the moves we've made.

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12-20-2012, 11:09 PM
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Gauthier could have at least called a few other GM's to say Cammy was available to see what else he could get.

If I remember correctly, some anonymous GM told the media he would have offered more had he known Cammy was available after the trade had happened.
Maybe it was to a division rival!

Since we would not trade Camalleri to a division rival without an overpayment, it was better to send in to Calgary for an inferior offer.

This way we dont have to face Cammalleri many time per year.

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12-20-2012, 11:59 PM
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Probably just the Sobotka for Warsofsky trade. A bottom six of Sobotka-Kelly-Peverley and Paille-Campbell-Thornton would be absolutely filthy.

I also don't think the Bruins have received those "future considerations" from the Kings for Marco Sturm.

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12-21-2012, 12:08 AM
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Probably just the Sobotka for Warsofsky trade. A bottom six of Sobotka-Kelly-Peverley and Paille-Campbell-Thornton would be absolutely filthy.

I also don't think the Bruins have received those "future considerations" from the Kings for Marco Sturm.
Chiarelli straight up said when he was interviewed about the trade that when you see "future considerations" in a trade, it means the team gave up nothing.

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it is awesome how this is the only bad trade that i remember snow making
No, it's not awesome. Garth makes good trades, but makes very few of them and doesn't improve the team through them. He thought Rolston would help this team, and he's a huge reason why they finished with the 4th worst record in the NHL at the time.

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12-21-2012, 12:19 AM
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Chiarelli straight up said when he was interviewed about the trade that when you see "future considerations" in a trade, it means the team gave up nothing.
But considering Sturm's play ever since the trade, it seems that that was what he was worth.

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But considering Sturm's play ever since the trade, it seems that that was what he was worth.
Yeah, he's really stunk up the place since he left Boston. Shame because I thought he was great with them, and thought he would be solid with LA. Not so much

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