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12-21-2012, 12:59 AM
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I'm ok with everything Edmonton has done, but the Canucks shouldn't have traded away Hodson. Buffalo easily won that one.

I guess I take by the Dion trade if I'm Toronto. Yes, he's their best d-man, but they could have those dollars going elsewhere right now. As for Calgary.. .the pieces they got out of the deal didn't do a hell of a lot for them either. They still missed the playoffs. Surely they could've gotten a better package for him from another team.

Actually... no... we're forgetting about Columbus. I nominate the Carter trade.

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12-21-2012, 01:02 AM
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I fail to see what the Gragnani-Sulzer trade did for us. Grags was a mess defensively and provided little offense. Might have been better to just have a NHL depth d-man.

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12-21-2012, 01:03 AM
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Any Leaf fan that wouldn't undo the Kessel trade is not being real.
You can't expect every fan from a single fanbase to be patient with rebuilds. If you consider the ticket prices for hockey games I don't blame fans for not being patient. At that price, you're team better be a contender.

I guess that's why any team should have an equal shot at the first overall pick. It forces teams to go for broke every year.

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12-21-2012, 01:04 AM
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I'm ok with everything Edmonton has done, but the Canucks shouldn't have traded away Hodson. Buffalo easily won that one.
Saw this said earlier, but it had to be done. Hodgson didn't have the nicest of relationships with the organization here and I don't blame him. Management really dropped the ball there. At least we got a player we needed in that deal so it wasn't a complete failure.

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12-21-2012, 01:22 AM
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This trade was bad, but happened before the summer of 2010 (it happened in January of 2010).

The worst trade for the Flames, and the only bad one since Feaster took over, is the Regehr deal.

Regehr wasn't worth as much as many think, but the Flames really didn't need to give up the second. Kotalik walking made it a winfall for the Sabres.
I don't think its bad enough to need to do much about. Reggie hasn't been that good since leaving either.

Its hard to consider this a bad trade given past trends in the sutter trades lol. In perspective this was almost an even trade if we only took a minor loss lol.

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12-21-2012, 01:28 AM
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I'm ok with everything Edmonton has done, but the Canucks shouldn't have traded away Hodson. Buffalo easily won that one.
Pretty hard to determine a winner when both players haven't even developed, no? Unless you can see into both of their futures as players?

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12-21-2012, 01:32 AM
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Pretty hard to determine a winner when both players haven't even developed, no? Unless you can see into both of their futures as players?
I've been a big fan of Hodgson for years. I would've waited for him to develop further if I was Vancouver.. .but as someone reminded me, he was on bad terms with the organization.

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12-21-2012, 01:39 AM
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I've been a big fan of Hodgson for years. I would've waited for him to develop further if I was Vancouver.. .but as someone reminded me, he was on bad terms with the organization.
I would've waited as well, but his family and the organization saw different things, as mentioned. Kassian, however, is a type of player the Canucks really need, and at worst he's a really good third line player IMO. Honestly, I think it'll end up being an even trade; one where it'll turn out to be a good hockey trade because both teams will benefit from having Hodgson/Kassian in their systems.

I just don't see how there can be a true winner in this deal yet.

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12-21-2012, 02:01 AM
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Brian Lee for Matt Gilroy

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2011 1st round pick (#24-Matt Puempel) for 2011 2nd round pick (#35-Tomas Jurco)
2011 2nd round pick (#48-Xavier Ouellet)

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12-21-2012, 02:12 AM
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2011 1st round pick (#24-Matt Puempel) for 2011 2nd round pick (#35-Tomas Jurco)
2011 2nd round pick (#48-Xavier Ouellet)
You can't assume Ottawa would have picked those 2 guys in those 2 spots

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12-21-2012, 02:24 AM
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You can't assume Ottawa would have picked those 2 guys in those 2 spots
Ok, still undo it.

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12-21-2012, 02:28 AM
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Any Leaf fan that wouldn't undo the Kessel trade is not being real.
conversely, if Boston undid the Kessel trade they would have had the firepower needed to get past Philadelphia in '10, then steamroll Montreal and have a great shot against Chicago. Kessel certainly doesn't hurt their chances in '11 and gives them a great shot to get through a weak Eastern conference in '12.

Seguin and Hamilton are nice, but Boston may have traded away a three-peat.

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12-21-2012, 03:20 AM
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Both the trades DW made this year. The McGinn/Sgarbossa for Galiardi/Winnik is a giant bust, especially considering DW didn't even try to re-sign Winnik and Galiardi can't stay healthy.

Moore for a 2nd isn't a bad trade, but he was preoccupied with his wife's cancer treatments, understandably, but played some ****** hockey for the Sharks. I'd take several of the prospects we could have had with the 37th overall we gave up over two months of disinterested Moore.

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12-21-2012, 06:39 AM
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Gauthier could have at least called a few other GM's to say Cammy was available to see what else he could get.

If I remember correctly, some anonymous GM told the media he would have offered more had he known Cammy was available after the trade had happened.
Player trades don't necessarily have to be auctions, especially when you're not talking about deadline rentals that the team is simply looking to stockpile assets.

A team may have been willing to offer "more"... but that's not necessarily what the Canadiens were looking for. Maybe they really wanted the 25+ goal winger with size.

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12-21-2012, 08:30 AM
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If we extend that out to 25 months, instead of the last 24, then I would undo the Colby Cohen for Matt Hunwick trade without a second thought. Of course, having Hunwick on the ice probably helped lead to getting Landeskog.
You wouldn't trade a career AHLer for a decent 3rd pairing NHL d-man? Dear God the Hunwick hate is really spinning out of control.

And as Lonewolfe said the Liles trade was a bad one.

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12-21-2012, 10:05 AM
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Man, your perception of time is messed up.
He last played for the Kings in 2008. That is 5 seasons and 6 if this one wasnt locked out. Ya looks like my guestimation was pretty spot on actually...

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12-21-2012, 10:23 AM
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Ian White for Derek Joslin and a 2nd. Not that White was anything special, but Joslin just never worked out here and I think we could have gotten better.

Not too many bad ones for the Canes... but on the flip side not too many great ones either.

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12-21-2012, 10:31 AM
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conversely, if Boston undid the Kessel trade they would have had the firepower needed to get past Philadelphia in '10, then steamroll Montreal and have a great shot against Chicago. Kessel certainly doesn't hurt their chances in '11 and gives them a great shot to get through a weak Eastern conference in '12.

Seguin and Hamilton are nice, but Boston may have traded away a three-peat.
Not a chance Boston beats '11 Chicago. Maybe the '12 team with Kessel over Seguin, but not a chance in '11.

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12-21-2012, 10:32 AM
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Michalek trade, easily. Even if he wanted to be in Phoenix.

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12-21-2012, 10:43 AM
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conversely, if Boston undid the Kessel trade they would have had the firepower needed to get past Philadelphia in '10, then steamroll Montreal and have a great shot against Chicago. Kessel certainly doesn't hurt their chances in '11 and gives them a great shot to get through a weak Eastern conference in '12.

Seguin and Hamilton are nice, but Boston may have traded away a three-peat.
Obv we must be talking about a different kessel if you think he was the missing piece to a Bruins 3 peat. Infact most people believe they won inpart because he wasn't around

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12-21-2012, 11:03 AM
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Undo this trade, please.


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conversely, if Boston undid the Kessel trade they would have had the firepower needed to get past Philadelphia in '10, then steamroll Montreal and have a great shot against Chicago. Kessel certainly doesn't hurt their chances in '11 and gives them a great shot to get through a weak Eastern conference in '12.

Seguin and Hamilton are nice, but Boston may have traded away a three-peat.
Im sure Kessel would have thrived in that series with Richards and Pronger breathing down his neck.

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12-21-2012, 11:18 AM
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Gauthier could have at least called a few other GM's to say Cammy was available to see what else he could get.

If I remember correctly, some anonymous GM told the media he would have offered more had he known Cammy was available after the trade had happened.
Yeah I remember hearing this about Dion too when he got traded to the Leafs... Lesson learned never trade with the Leafs unless you want to get shafted... It was more a quantity for quality at that point. Right after every Flames fan tried to justify by saying White is better... Now we're saying we got shafted HAHA

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12-21-2012, 11:48 AM
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i don't think i'd undo any of the columbus deals...i know the Klesla/Byers for Upshall deal was mentioned...but that freed us up room to sign FAs...which we needed at the time...

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conversely, if Boston undid the Kessel trade they would have had the firepower needed to get past Philadelphia in '10, then steamroll Montreal and have a great shot against Chicago. Kessel certainly doesn't hurt their chances in '11 and gives them a great shot to get through a weak Eastern conference in '12.

Seguin and Hamilton are nice, but Boston may have traded away a three-peat.
If we still had Kessel we woudlnt have gotten Horton. Kessels better than Horton, but to think we would have "steamrolled" Montreal with Kessel instead of taking them to game 7 with Horton then you're delusional. Kessel had 11 more points than Horton that year.

Only questionable trade is the Kaberle trade and the only reason its questionable is a player the Leafs traded up to get (Biggs). At the same time tho, 99% of Bruins fans don't regret the trade, incudling me. Colborne hasnt shown much at this point and had no place in our organization.

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