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12-21-2012, 11:47 PM
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Yeah, there's no way Luongo starts for team Canada. That choker could never win an Olympic Gold.


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12-22-2012, 02:02 AM
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Stamkos - Crosby (C) - Perry
Giroux - Tavares - Eberle
Hall - Spezza - Benn
Richards - Toews (A) - Nash
Bergeron

Doughty - Weber (A)
Letang - Pietrangelo
Seabrook - Keith
Staal

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12-22-2012, 02:12 AM
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Stamkos - Crosby (C) - Perry
Giroux - Tavares - Eberle
Hall - Spezza - Benn
Richards - Toews (A) - Nash
Bergeron

Doughty - Weber (A)
Letang - Pietrangelo
Seabrook - Keith
Staal

Price
Ward
Fleury
Spezza?? Not good enough for top six, not good enough defensively for bottom six. I'd slot in someone like Couture before him.

I agree with pretty much everything else. The last two d-spots are a toss up between a number of candidates - I'd like to see Subban and Burns instead of Seabrook and Staal, but that's simply homerism (and they're legit candidates).

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12-22-2012, 07:29 AM
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Yeah, there's no way Luongo starts for team Canada. That choker could never win an Olympic Gold.

And he never has.

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12-22-2012, 12:53 PM
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And he never has.
In case it wasn't apparent, I was being sarcastic.

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12-22-2012, 03:51 PM
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In case it wasn't apparent, I was being sarcastic.
He was joking haha.

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12-23-2012, 04:48 PM
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Every time the Olympics rolls around Team Canada uses a lot of centers on the wing because of the strength down the middle. I compiled the following team using only wingers on their appropriate wings. I'm not saying that this is the way that it should be done or that these players are my picks for the team. I'm only guessing which players would be used if they didn't move C to the wing. I know everyone doesnít buy into it but Iím a believer in chemistry so Iíve used teammates whenever possible. The italics are who I think would be a bubble player for the actual team. They are based on projected skill a year from now in time for the Sochi Olympics.


Hartnell Giroux Perry
E. Staal Crosby Neal
Hall Stamkos Eberle
Nash Toews Seguin

Here are the bubble and or lock centers that were left off of the team

Getzlaf
Bergeron
Benn
M. Richards (lock)
Taveres (lock)

Here are the wingers that were left off of my team. Some were because of age, some because of the game that they play not translating to the big ice, others just because I preferred to keep linemates together opposed to BPA.

Lucic
Skinner
Sharp
Clowe
E. Kane
Marleau 34
Iginla 36
St. Louis 38

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12-23-2012, 07:34 PM
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Eberle RNH Tavares
Seguin Benn Perry


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Weber Doughty
Petrangelo Letang
keith staal
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12-23-2012, 11:18 PM
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Lucic-Stamkos-Oshie

Doughty-Murray
Keith-Seabrook
Subban-Pietrangelo

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Subban

A little different from everyone elses just for chits. Lots of grit and excellent two way players with a second soft line that is bound to have the most chemistry at the tournament.

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12-23-2012, 11:35 PM
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Stamkos - Crosby (C) - Perry/Hall
Giroux - Tavares - Eberle
Couture-Bergeron-Toews/Couture
Hall/Richards-Thornton-Toews

Petro-Weber
Doughty-Subban
Keith-Seabrook

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12-24-2012, 12:02 AM
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Neal-Crosby-Couture
Hall-RNH-Eberle
Richards-Toews-Nash (This line was unreal in 2010)
Lucic-Stamkos-Oshie

Doughty-Murray
Keith-Seabrook
Subban-Pietrangelo

Price
Flower
Subban

A little different from everyone elses just for chits. Lots of grit and excellent two way players with a second soft line that is bound to have the most chemistry at the tournament.
Oshie is American.

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12-24-2012, 12:12 AM
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Every time the Olympics rolls around Team Canada uses a lot of centers on the wing because of the strength down the middle. I compiled the following team using only wingers on their appropriate wings. I'm not saying that this is the way that it should be done or that these players are my picks for the team. I'm only guessing which players would be used if they didn't move C to the wing. I know everyone doesnít buy into it but Iím a believer in chemistry so Iíve used teammates whenever possible. The italics are who I think would be a bubble player for the actual team. They are based on projected skill a year from now in time for the Sochi Olympics.


Hartnell Giroux Perry
E. Staal Crosby Neal
Hall Stamkos Eberle
Nash Toews Seguin

Here are the bubble and or lock centers that were left off of the team

Getzlaf
Bergeron
Benn
M. Richards (lock)
Taveres (lock)

Here are the wingers that were left off of my team. Some were because of age, some because of the game that they play not translating to the big ice, others just because I preferred to keep linemates together opposed to BPA.

Lucic
Skinner
Sharp
Clowe
E. Kane
Marleau 34
Iginla 36
St. Louis 38

Interesting assessment, but Hartnell, God (and Flyers fans) love him but he better not be a bubble player and if so, he better not be anywhere near the first line. And E. Staal is a center so that goes against the premise of natural wingers in their positions. Skinner skates too well to leave off on the big ice and Benn gives you too much versatility to play anywhere on the roster and add the physical element to a higher degree than most on upfront.

Giroux Crosby Perry
Staal Stamkos Eberle
Skinner Tavares Seguin
Benn Toews Neal
MacKinnon

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12-24-2012, 12:21 AM
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Stamkos - Crosby (C) - Perry/Hall
Giroux - Tavares - Eberle
Couture-Bergeron-Toews/Couture
Hall/Richards-Thornton-Toews

Petro-Weber
Doughty-Subban
Keith-Seabrook

Price
Ward
Luongo
toews doesn't play wing - and was on the team in 2010...so they're not going to shove him onto wing to accommodate others.

...no chance toews will be a 3rd or 4th line wing so tavares can play 2c...give your head a shake on that one.

if there's nothing else to predict about the team - i think you can predict crosby as 1c and toews as 2c...and then build around that. ... you could put toews in the bottom 6 - but given his offense, i'm doubtful they'd do that - again, esp. in light of his experience.

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Neal-Crosby-Couture
Hall-RNH-Eberle
Richards-Toews-Nash (This line was unreal in 2010)
Lucic-Stamkos-Oshie

Doughty-Murray
Keith-Seabrook
Subban-Pietrangelo

Price
Flower
Subban

A little different from everyone elses just for chits. Lots of grit and excellent two way players with a second soft line that is bound to have the most chemistry at the tournament.
i see that tavares isn't good enough to make the cut

ignoring the fact oshie isn't canadian - this team probably won't be competing in the quarter finals.


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12-24-2012, 12:36 AM
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Neal-Crosby-Couture
Hall-RNH-Eberle
Richards-Toews-Nash (This line was unreal in 2010)
Lucic-Stamkos-Oshie

Doughty-Murray
Keith-Seabrook
Subban-Pietrangelo

Price
Flower
Subban

A little different from everyone elses just for chits. Lots of grit and excellent two way players with a second soft line that is bound to have the most chemistry at the tournament.


pretty sure Stamkos > RNH and I would agree on keeping the third line together. I understand that you're focusing on chemistry, but I would move that line down to the fourth, throw Seguin and Tavares with stammer on the second line.

also Weber? Might be nice to have

perry for lucic, think he will be much more effective internationally

Bergeron will make this team, no doubt in my mind, I would take him over Hall.

this is also missing some Seguin.

look at me, sticking up for Boston players...

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12-24-2012, 03:26 AM
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Nash - Crosby - Giroux

Perry - Getzlaf - Stamkos

Richards - Toews - Benn

Tavares - Bergeron - Henrique


Weber - Pietrangelo

Girardi - Doughty

Keith - Letang

extras: Alzner, Del Zotto


Price

Fleury

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12-24-2012, 08:09 AM
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Getzlaf
Bergeron
Benn
M. Richards (lock)
Taveres (lock)
bubble is a more than fair category for Getzlaf, i don't think he makes it unless he's having one of his top 2 or 3 seasons. captaining that WC atrocity will not be completely forgotten.

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12-24-2012, 08:12 AM
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Wow...this is a lot of discussion over something the tyranny that is the NHL will not approve of.

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12-24-2012, 11:05 AM
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I would love to see an international tournament on NHL ice with NHL refs calling NHL rules the NA way.

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12-24-2012, 12:00 PM
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Interesting assessment, but Hartnell, God (and Flyers fans) love him but he better not be a bubble player and if so, he better not be anywhere near the first line. And E. Staal is a center so that goes against the premise of natural wingers in their positions. Skinner skates too well to leave off on the big ice and Benn gives you too much versatility to play anywhere on the roster and add the physical element to a higher degree than most on upfront.

Giroux Crosby Perry
Staal Stamkos Eberle
Skinner Tavares Seguin
Benn Toews Neal
MacKinnon
I know but he has played a lot of wing

With Hartnel again no I'm not even sure if he would make the B team. (Crazy to think from a 37 goal guy) That being said, if you were using wingers only for the wing why not use a guy that has that much chemistry with Giroux.

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12-24-2012, 12:26 PM
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LW C RW
Hall Crosby Eberle <---and everyone goes nuts over RNH?
Tavares Giroux Stamkos <---Pure Offence
Richards Toews Nash <---2010 'nuff said
E. Kane Getzlaf Perry<---Always need a physical line that can score

Bergeron/Seguin/Henrique Take your pick for 13th forward

Keith Weber <---Returnees so easy pairing
Staal Doughty<---Good balanced pairing allows doughty to roam..
Phaneuf Pietroangelo<--- Think they coud go well as a pairing/could sub Alzner in place of Phaneuf if wanted

Alzner/Girardi 7th D-man both are soldiers on the ice


Ward
Price
Fleury
Goaltenders in any order really


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12-25-2012, 12:13 AM
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Nash-Getzlaf-Perry
Benn-Tavares-Seguin

Letang-Weber
M.Staal-Doughty
Keith-Subban

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Luongo

Extras: Taylor Hall, Alex Pietrangelo

There is just too many good Canadian players that could make the team..

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12-25-2012, 12:28 AM
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No idea why Luongo isn't listed as Canada's starter in many people's lineups. He will be Canada's starter. He's the best goalie we have right now (yes, he's better than Price). Also I'm very very disturbed by the amount of times Cam Ward has shown up as our starter. The guy has choked in his last two international tournaments, and cost us gold in 2009, and cost us a game against Slovakia this year. No idea why people overrate him so much.

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I'm starting to get the feeling that there won't be any NHL participation in Sochi.

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Tavares-Crosby-Iginla
Hall-Giroux-Stamkos
M. Richards-Toews-Eberle
Benn-Getzlaf-Perry
Seguin

If by that time Iggy is no longer at his current level of play, put Stamkos in his spot, move Eberle up to the 2nd line, Seguin on the 3rd. Staal or Bergeron would be my thirteenth forward (I'm probably under-rating the two). Hall might be a bit of an eyebrow raiser but I think he would add a ton of speed on the larger ice surface that would compliment that line well.

Doughty-Weber
Keith-Pietrangelo
Letang-Staal
Seabrook

I would love to see Subban make it on this team and maybe he will but at this point I don't think it's very realistic. Myers would be an interesting choice as well.

Price
Ward
Fleury

I think Price would offer the most consistent performance, which I think is all Canada would really need. However it's never a bad thing to have a couple of cup champs to fall back on.

With the Sochi Olympics approaching and a rather limited amount of time for players to perform in the NHL, it will be interesting to see if young guns like Skinner, Kane and RNH or perhaps an oversight like Carter can force their way onto this team.

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Stamkos - Crosby - Perry

Canada's best goal scorer and best playmaker, with Perry for size / grit / more goals. Love right handed goal scorers on the left side.

Benn - Toews - Giroux

Love the skill and compete with Toews and Grioux, Benn to bring size.

Staal - Getzlaf - Nash

I still believe in Getzlaf. This line has a ton of size to push people around as well as a lot of international experience. Getzlaf / Nash connection has been deadly before.

M. Richards - Tavares - Eberle

It makes no sense, but you just know that this line would steal the show. These guys just have 'it'.

Letang - Weber

Keith - Doughty

Staal - Pietrangelo



Price

Fluery

Ward



Crosby (C)
Staal (A)
Weber (A)

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