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Top 4 D-man to Colorado?

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12-23-2012, 01:08 AM
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You guys are dreaming if you think Downie, without a very solid prospect, would even get you into negotiations for any top pairing defenseman. You might get Kyle Quincey back but I doubt Detroit goes for it! That's a discount deal to keep your 3 centers.
Like Lonewolfe said, Bouw only has 1 year left. Not risking Downie + Siemens for potentially nothing.

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12-23-2012, 01:43 AM
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You guys are dreaming if you think Downie, without a very solid prospect, would even get you into negotiations for any top pairing defenseman. You might get Kyle Quincey back but I doubt Detroit goes for it! That's a discount deal to keep your 3 centers.
That's why I said it was an easy yes if it was just Downie for J-Bo but I wouldn't add Siemens. I was just commenting on Lonewolfe's comment about how he wouldn't trade Downie for J-Bo. I think you might have quoted the wrong guy.

Also Detroit would be dumb if they didn't accept Quincey for Downie.

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12-23-2012, 03:34 AM
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You guys are dreaming if you think Downie, without a very solid prospect, would even get you into negotiations for any top pairing defenseman. You might get Kyle Quincey back but I doubt Detroit goes for it! That's a discount deal to keep your 3 centers.
Downie for JBO? Done. Add Siemens? No. I think your overrating JBO. He's earning 6+ million per year, is a UFA next year, and is certainly not playing his best hockey.


I would be more than happy keeping all our centers and letting our prospects develop. No need to to rush to get a D. My ideal choice would be obviously to get one via free agency, but other than that, I'd rather not trade anything significant and see how Siemens/Barrie/Elliot develop.

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Now the Rangers have more D than we know what to do with, but I need to be thusly enticed

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Not a chance. Rather wait until FA, hope Edler makes it there, and try and get him for nothing. Certainly would not give up Duchene for someone who could walk.



And spell Duchene right. Its not that tough.
Hey when is Matt Dooshanes contract up

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Hey when is Matt Dooshanes contract up
After that poor effort, the Internet Troll Organization hereby banishes you.

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Stastny + for Staal or Staal for Duchene or Duchene + for McDonaugh

Not really sold on Richards - Stepan - Boyle as a cup caliber C situation.


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Stastny + for Staal or Staal for Duchene or Duchene + for McDonaugh

Not really sold on Richards - Stepan - Boyle as a cup caliber C situation.
Stastny for Staal, not sold on McDonaugh until he plays another season picking up where he left off.

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I think Dewshane for OEL is a good basis

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If the Avs want a true (presumably young) top pairing D, I would think the other team would want Landeskog coming back.

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If the Avs want a true (presumably young) top pairing D, I would think the other team would want Landeskog coming back.
And the Avs say no thank you.

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And the Avs say no thank you.
Then so does the other team. True #1 D's are guys like Karlsson, Weber, Pietrangelo, Doughty, etc. Like it or not (and I really, really like Landeskog), top line wingers don't have the same value as a top pairing Dman, just like top line wingers don't have the same value of a true top line center, because #1 Dmen and centers are much, much harder to find then top line wingers.

If you want to acquire a huge asset like a #1 D, you have to give up something that hurts, and that would be Landeskog+. I doubt that the GMs of the teams for any of the Dmen I mentioned above would trade any of those Dmen for Landeskog unless the Avs added to him.

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Then so does the other team. True #1 D's are guys like Karlsson, Weber, Pietrangelo, Doughty, etc. Like it or not (and I really, really like Landeskog), top line wingers don't have the same value as a top pairing Dman, just like top line wingers don't have the same value of a true top line center, because #1 Dmen and centers are much, much harder to find then top line wingers.

If you want to acquire a huge asset like a #1 D, you have to give up something that hurts, and that would be Landeskog+. I doubt that the GMs of the teams for any of the Dmen I mentioned above would trade any of those Dmen for Landeskog unless the Avs added to him.
Why can't Mats Zuchene be part of the deal? Good #1/2 tweener, solid #1 if he gets his game together. Landeskog would be an outrageous asking price IMO

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Then so does the other team. True #1 D's are guys like Karlsson, Weber, Pietrangelo, Doughty, etc. Like it or not (and I really, really like Landeskog), top line wingers don't have the same value as a top pairing Dman, just like top line wingers don't have the same value of a true top line center, because #1 Dmen and centers are much, much harder to find then top line wingers.

If you want to acquire a huge asset like a #1 D, you have to give up something that hurts, and that would be Landeskog+. I doubt that the GMs of the teams for any of the Dmen I mentioned above would trade any of those Dmen for Landeskog unless the Avs added to him.
We don't have to acquire one of the names you mentioned. An Enstrom, Yandle or Kulikov will do just fine too.

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Then so does the other team. True #1 D's are guys like Karlsson, Weber, Pietrangelo, Doughty, etc. Like it or not (and I really, really like Landeskog), top line wingers don't have the same value as a top pairing Dman, just like top line wingers don't have the same value of a true top line center, because #1 Dmen and centers are much, much harder to find then top line wingers.

If you want to acquire a huge asset like a #1 D, you have to give up something that hurts, and that would be Landeskog+. I doubt that the GMs of the teams for any of the Dmen I mentioned above would trade any of those Dmen for Landeskog unless the Avs added to him.
I'm sorry...have you even been reading what Avs fans have said? No one has mentioned guys like Weber or Pietrangelo. Thats not what were looking for. Were looking for a partner to play with EJ. As Lonewolfe said, a guy like Yandle would be perfect. I don't know how you came up with the idea we are looking for one of the top defenders the in league or anything like that.

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I'm sorry...have you even been reading what Avs fans have said? No one has mentioned guys like Weber or Pietrangelo. Thats not what were looking for. Were looking for a partner to play with EJ. As Lonewolfe said, a guy like Yandle would be perfect. I don't know how you came up with the idea we are looking for one of the top defenders the in league or anything like that.
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