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12-24-2012, 12:26 AM
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Markov is 35 btw, Beaulieu isn't looking good right now, I doubt he will become a #1-2 D in the league and who's ufa at the end of 2013 ? cuz Yandle just signed a new deal this last summer.
Can you just leave Bealieu out of your analysis please, I think hes doing just fine on a rookie 'Dogs team so I don't agree at all with your assessment.

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12-24-2012, 01:43 AM
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I might consider moving Yandle for Galchenyuk.

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12-24-2012, 02:34 AM
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If you had a top 3 pick why would you not just go for seth jones

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12-24-2012, 03:09 AM
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If you had a top 3 pick why would you not just go for seth jones
because I prefer mackinnon or barkov and we need a left d to play with subban + if galchenyuk become center, we will have to move 1 of desharnais, plekanec or eller.

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12-24-2012, 06:52 AM
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Being for rebuilding for CH ...

I'll try to get the space under the salary cap

I would see a trade,
is as follows

PLEKANEC - ELLER

HANZEL - MURPHY - CHRIS BROWN
................ or HANZAL - 1ST 2013 - BROWN


why make this trade??

have a good physical center 3th
a young right-handed d-man
a young and big right-wing/centre

and especially

release $ $
to get a solid UFA next July

This trade might be equivalent to --->

PLEK - ELLER ---> CLOWE - HANZEL - MURPHY - BROWN


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12-24-2012, 07:55 AM
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Yandle is really good, but the team also really has need of what Gorges and Plekanec do. I wouldn't make that original swap from the Habs' POV. It would leave the team too thin and weak defensively, even if it added a bigger star player in Yandle. It would also hit the leadership pretty hard.

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12-24-2012, 08:17 AM
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Not sure if there is a deal to be had here.

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12-24-2012, 08:19 AM
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Don't need Yandle, and especially not giving proven assets. Habs have tons of quality young d-men almost ready.

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Not sure if there is a deal to be had here.
Agreed.

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It just doesn't make sense to take away two of the more reliable defensive talents in Montreal's roster, when its that kind of roster and system that helps Yandle thrive in Phoenix.

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12-24-2012, 11:31 AM
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Markov is 35 btw, Beaulieu isn't looking good right now, I doubt he will become a #1-2 D in the league and who's ufa at the end of 2013 ? cuz Yandle just signed a new deal this last summer.
What is this I keep reading that Beaulieu isn't doing good...

He has done a decent job in the AHL, the guy has only 10 points in 26 games but he is also one of the youngest guy playing in the AHL, he just recently turned 20. And I think he recently had something like a 6-7 game point streak just end.

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12-24-2012, 11:57 AM
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If you had a top 3 pick why would you not just go for seth jones
We don't really need more D help. Subban, Gorges, Weber, Emelin and Diaz are all under 30, plus we have a lot of D prospects like Beaulieu, Tinordi, Ellis, Thrower, etc.

Would much rather get Barkov, Mackinnon or Drouin.

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12-24-2012, 12:43 PM
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If or when the Coyotes trade KY, they won't be taking back a d'man. I doubt that the team will trade Keith Yandle this season.

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12-24-2012, 03:44 PM
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I'm ready to give Plekanec and Gorges for Yandle but only if the habs get one of the three first pick and draft a big winger/center like Barkov or Mackinnon.

I could imagine a team like :

Paccioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Barkov - Galchenyuk - Gallagher
Bourque - Eller - Prust
Moen - Leblanc/Nokelainen - White

Yandle - Subban
Markov - Emelin
Tinordi - Diaz

I think we miss something in defense, markov is getting older and I don't really believe in Beaulieu. Yandle is young and could be great with subban.
I'll go Pleks and Emelin for Yandle but that is all. Habs need another d-man but free agency way to go instead of paying thru the nose. Gomez is done in Montreal so cap room should be no problem

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12-24-2012, 04:08 PM
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pleks and emelin for yandle is way to much. Emelin should stay because he's tough to play against. Plekanac and eller for hanzal and a first is close but maybe we could add something on each side to make it more plausible. Taking barkov over jones would be a mistake. If there was a way to get bogosian for subban plus and have seth jones to go with him then we would have something. Bogosian and Jones paired on the first pairing would be awesome. You could still have emelin and georges for a second pair. Third pair candidate would be tinordi,boullion and maybe ellis, thrower, dietz down the road. With price in nets and that kind of a defence, we'd be on the way.

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12-24-2012, 05:30 PM
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You should see how many phoenix fans are willing to give up a 25yr old 6-5 220 pd hanzal straight up for 5-11 195 pd 29 yr oldplekanac. I think u may be surprised. A big reason in Phoenix's trip to the final four was Hanzal. Everyone valus there own more, it's natural. Whether we are in a rebuild mode or not, I think you would agree we are in a state of flux. I think we could SERIOUSLY build a team to win the cup. I'm pretty sure their is a spot on a winner for hanzal. It's like instead of seeing what we can get for our assets' we should identify what it is we want to build a winner and then use them to get as many as we can. Free agency can fill the wholes. Pre-requisites for all players to be obtained should be that they are made up of nuts and bolts. Instead of plugging along trying to gain a step each year, I'd sooner look at a 2-3 yr plan to do it rite. It's not like a full rebuild because there are a good number of quality pioeces there now.


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12-24-2012, 07:28 PM
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No thanks from a Habs perspective, Plekanec + Diaz is probably the most I'd do. Considering Plekanec is comparable to Krejci, and it was discussed that Krejci for Yandle was fair value.

Adding Gorges would constitute an overpayment for a position which we do not need.
That's crazy, Plekanec does not hold the same value as Krejci. Grabovski holds more value than Plekanec anyway, so would you agree that Grabovski for Yandle is a fair deal? Gorges an overpayment...?

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Being for rebuilding for CH ...

I'll try to get the space under the salary cap

I would see a trade,
is as follows

PLEKANEC - ELLER

HANZEL - MURPHY - CHRIS BROWN
................ or HANZAL - 1ST 2013 - BROWN


why make this trade??

have a good physical center 3th
a young right-handed d-man
a young and big right-wing/centre

and especially

release $ $
to get a solid UFA next July

This trade might be equivalent to --->

PLEK - ELLER ---> CLOWE - HANZEL - MURPHY - BROWN
No chance. Hanzal is our most valuable forward by far right now, not to mention a center when we are extremely center poor. He and OEL are as close to untradable as you get these days.

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12-24-2012, 08:46 PM
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I'd rather wait and see how Markov does.

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12-24-2012, 10:48 PM
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I would take plekanac over grabovski all day every day. Krecji and plekanac are about as close or equal to each other as you can get but I think i'd still take plekanac because of edge in penalty killing-defensive department.

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That's crazy, Plekanec does not hold the same value as Krejci. Grabovski holds ,more value than Plekanec anyway so would you agree that Grabovski for Yandle is a fair deal? Gorges an overpayment...?
You're way off base. Do you even know who Plekanec is?

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12-24-2012, 10:55 PM
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sounds awful why wouldn't you want your center depth stronger with Galchenyuk, Pleks and Desharnais?

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Being for rebuilding for CH ...

I'll try to get the space under the salary cap

I would see a trade,
is as follows

PLEKANEC - ELLER

HANZEL - MURPHY - CHRIS BROWN
................ or HANZAL - 1ST 2013 - BROWN


why make this trade??

have a good physical center 3th
a young right-handed d-man
a young and big right-wing/centre

and especially

release $ $
to get a solid UFA next July

This trade might be equivalent to --->

PLEK - ELLER ---> CLOWE - HANZEL - MURPHY - BROWN
I'd be willing to send you Yandle for Eller, Gallagher, and a 2013 1st. If Eller isn't ready for 2nd line duty I would be just fine sitting him on the 3rd.

Boedker - Vermette - Doan
Sullivan - Hanzal - Vrbata
Korpikoski - Eller - Moss
Chipchura - Gordon - Johnson

OEL - Michalek
Stone/Summers/Gormley - Morris
Schlemko - Klesla

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