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12-17-2012, 12:03 PM
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Hey stick junkies. How close is a Warrior Savard curve to an Easton Iginla? I know lie numbers with Warriors are different, I saw one on sale on the weekend and was thinking about giving it a try.

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12-17-2012, 12:05 PM
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Savard = old Forsberg and new Cammalleri, which is a 5 lie neutral mid-heel. The Kovalchuk would be closer to Iginla.

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12-17-2012, 02:17 PM
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Savard = old Forsberg and new Cammalleri, which is a 5 lie neutral mid-heel. The Kovalchuk would be closer to Iginla.
Cool I'll check that one out, thanks.

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12-17-2012, 02:31 PM
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Not exactly sure, but both are higher kick sticks with some of the best feel and blade durability out there.
Whelp with the insane deal on clearance items today from HM I pulled the trigger. Picked up a TO 77 flex P91A for a grand total of $112 and free shipping. Even if I hate it, that price is worth the risk. Also snagged a Stealth RS for the wife for $147. Pretty sick.

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That is an amazing deal on the TO. Excellent work.

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That is an amazing deal on the TO. Excellent work.
Thx Pretty excited, can't wait to try it out.

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12-17-2012, 09:44 PM
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I also snagged the TO, got the intermediate so it was a total of 108$. Couldn't pass it up.

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12-18-2012, 12:25 AM
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Disgusting deals.

Should just grab as many as you can while you're at it, can probably resell for higher value on Craigslist.

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12-18-2012, 07:48 AM
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Grab yourself a Widow in Kopitar/Draper!

Older S19s/RSs should be on clearance.
What's the kickpoint on the Widow?

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12-18-2012, 08:29 AM
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What's the kickpoint on the Widow?
Widow's have a low kick point

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12-18-2012, 09:00 AM
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Yeah just found that actually. icewarehouse has really good information on that kind of stuff if people like me are wondering.

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12-18-2012, 10:09 AM
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Yeah just found that actually. icewarehouse has really good information on that kind of stuff if people like me are wondering.
Agreed, they do good work with those details.

You'll feel the upper part of the shaft flex a bit more as a result, but the resulting snap of the lower part (hosel) as you release the puck is what gives it it's very clean and accurate shot. More of a slingshot flinging sensation and then a clean snap if you will. It's very pleasant.

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12-23-2012, 09:15 AM
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Jarick, this guide is awesome. I was trying to put off the need for a new stick as I'm still looking to replace my pants that have become too large, but now I think a new stick is going to improve my game far more.

At the very least, your guide convinced me to cut down my stick a bit. I realized that the stick I use to practice stick handling in the basement is WAY shorter than the stick I play hockey with and I feel totally comfortable with it. For some reason, I never thought to compare them or try stickhandling in my basement with my game stick. Even standing on a pack of printer paper to simulate skate height, my game stick felt long and clumsy. I've long felt frustrated with my stickhandling ability given how often I play so we'll see how the shorter stick feels on the ice.

Currently I'm using a Bauer Vapor X:40 P92/Backstrom, 77 flex (now cut down to ~90) which felt downright whippy compared to the previously ill-advised stick I was sold (Bauer Vapor X:Shift) before I knew better.

But I know I need to get a new stick. At 5'10", 145 pounds, I was thinking I would need an intermediate stick but looking at the lengths I think I might be too tall. When a stick is listed as 57", what does that measure? Top to toe along the diagonal or is it just the length of the shaft?

Any suggestions on sticks would be appreciated. My pickups have a no-slapshot rule and I don't have one anyways, so I'd be looking for a low kickpoint. And to be frank, I'd put more emphasis on puck control than shooting.

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12-26-2012, 11:59 AM
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I've found that I usually like my dry land sticks only 1/2" or so shorter than ice, so all I do is choke up on my game sticks. I don't bend my knees when I'm not wearing skates so it's pretty close.

I'm not sure how sticks are measured. I'm 67" tall (5'7) but I cut my 60" sticks down 5-6" or so. I think they are measured from the base of the heel.

I posted in the other thread I think a 67 flex in the Vapor could work fine for you as they are stiffer feeling, but if you are concerned with puck feel, the mid-range sticks kind of feel like crap. Maybe you could see if there's a clearance Sherwood N12 or Easton EQ50?

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12-26-2012, 01:34 PM
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Anyone have any experience with the Graf Supra G15, or hear anything about it?

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Updated the guide with a pattern chart and high end sticks for the past few years. So when we say "get a clearance high end stick", look at this list. Doesn't cover everything but should be close.

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12-26-2012, 10:34 PM
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Laptop broke so that's why i've been hesitant on buying new gear. Not sure what the price is just yet so not sure when i'm going to be getting these.

Would you guys recommend a Reebok 16k or a Warrior shaft? These are the two shafts i'm looking at right now. I've heard Warrior are super durable.

Also, out of curiosity, has anyone liked Combat sticks? I know Jagr uses them and i'm just wondering. They look snazzy.

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12-26-2012, 10:48 PM
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Tapered vs. Standard doesn't really matter to me, i'm open to both. I just want a durable shaft that won't break but is also not a piece of crap.

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12-27-2012, 11:33 AM
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Laptop broke so that's why i've been hesitant on buying new gear. Not sure what the price is just yet so not sure when i'm going to be getting these.

Would you guys recommend a Reebok 16k or a Warrior shaft? These are the two shafts i'm looking at right now. I've heard Warrior are super durable.

Also, out of curiosity, has anyone liked Combat sticks? I know Jagr uses them and i'm just wondering. They look snazzy.
I've used Reebok and Warrior shafts. The Warriors had better kick for me. Reeboks have always felt stiff.

I would go tapered though, blades are much lighter and it's better balanced. I had a Warrior AK27 (standard shaft) that felt like someone taped a 5 pound weight on the end of it.

I've never used Combat as they never go on sale. I'm not paying $200 for a stick I'm not comfortable has been "proven" like a name brand. A lot of people like them though.

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12-27-2012, 12:03 PM
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I've used Reebok and Warrior shafts. The Warriors had better kick for me. Reeboks have always felt stiff.

I would go tapered though, blades are much lighter and it's better balanced. I had a Warrior AK27 (standard shaft) that felt like someone taped a 5 pound weight on the end of it.

I've never used Combat as they never go on sale. I'm not paying $200 for a stick I'm not comfortable has been "proven" like a name brand. A lot of people like them though.
Ah, I see. Yeah I found the Reebok 16k and Warrior Dolomite pretty cheap (I have heard people like those here).

Was asking about Combat out of pure curiosity haha. I'm not sure about the Combat sticks and the newer models, but the Combat Hockey Pure composite is 129.99 at Total Hockey, but was originally 229.99. Then again, i'd feel bad paying 129.99 for it if I ever bought it

I tend to stay away from things like that, especially if it's a brand like you said that is not extremely popular.

Thanks about the Warrior/Reebok comparison though

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12-27-2012, 11:59 PM
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After a week of using my new Total One P92. I am in love with it. I can really tell a difference in my shot and puckhandling. The blade has great feel to it, and has held up really well so far.

A great buy, they are on clearance now! Got mine for 105.

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12-28-2012, 09:33 AM
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I have never actually used it, but I'm pleasantly surprised at the RBZ. I didn't expect much from it but it has really nice feel and balance to it.

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12-28-2012, 10:28 AM
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Is the puck jumpy when stickhandling? That would be my concern with the "hot" face.

I'm sad the X:60 never went on clearance. I think the dual kick points is what made it such a great stick for me. I've been eyeing one on the shelves for the last year but it's still $165.

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12-28-2012, 11:01 AM
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Is the puck jumpy when stickhandling? That would be my concern with the "hot" face.

I'm sad the X:60 never went on clearance. I think the dual kick points is what made it such a great stick for me. I've been eyeing one on the shelves for the last year but it's still $165.
Shafts are on clearance at HM for 89$ you can buy a pack of em

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12-28-2012, 11:39 AM
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Yeah I'm not sold on the X:60 shafts being dual kick point vs a painted non-kick shaft. And when you add in shipping and a blade it's not much cheaper.

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