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12-28-2012, 09:27 AM
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I would have to disagree with the bolded. I've watched almost every game he's played in after he was drafted and what stuck out the most to me, besides his shot, was his elite playmaking ability. All of his offensive skills are high-end.
Okay, but I think more and more people are beginning to agree with me that Yakupov just doesn't see the game as well as his pure physical skills would suggest.

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12-28-2012, 09:48 AM
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I think you are implying his impact will be like Kessel rather than his abilities. Kessel has elite IQ with respect to passing and goal scoring. Anyone who says Kessel cannot pass have clearly not seen him play the last couple of seasons. Yakupov on the other hand is more physical than Kessel but does not have the passing ability. He does however have elite goal ability. I think it is possible for Yakupov to become less selfish as he matures.
Completely disagree. Kessel is a good passer and can go tape to tape but even a passer can play with blinders on. He has no sense of surroundings or time and space. He just see's whats ahead of him.


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12-28-2012, 10:54 AM
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1) Kuznetov
2) Tarasenko
3) Yakupov
4) Huberdau
5) Galchenyuk
6) Hamilton
7) Schultz
8) Granlund
9) Strome
10) Murray
11) Bartschi
12) Zibanejad
13) Grigorenko
14) Markstrom
15) Schiefle

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12-28-2012, 10:57 AM
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Completely disagree. Kessel is a good passer and can go tape to tape but even a passer can play with blinders on. He has no sense of surroundings or time and space. He just see's whats ahead of him.
Wow you clearly do not watch him. His vision is great to elite.

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12-28-2012, 11:03 AM
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Wow you clearly do not watch him. His vision is great to elite.
I've seen plenty of Kessel and I guess we'll have to disagree. If his vision and sense are at least average he would be a top 10 player in the NHL and an Alex Mogilny type player. He just isn't that good and is closer to Sergei Berezin.

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12-28-2012, 11:09 AM
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I've seen plenty of Kessel and I guess we'll have to disagree. If his vision and sense are at least average he would be a top 10 player in the NHL and an Alex Mogilny type player. He just isn't that good and is closer to Sergei Berezin.
Kessel was a terrific playmaker last season. I guess anyone who saw him play last season would tell you the same. Agree to disagree, I guess.


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12-28-2012, 11:14 AM
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I'm a red wing fan and i dont even think Nyqusit is our top prospect. Kid is Filppula 2.0, very good prospect but not elite. Top 15 is made for Elite.

1. Nail Yakupov - EDM
2. Mikael Granlund - MIN
3. Evgeni Kuznetsov - WSH
4. Alex Galchenyuk - MTL
5. Vlad Tarasenko - STL
6. Justin Schultz - EDM
7. Dougie Hamilton - BOS
8. Johnny Huberdeau - FLA
9. Ryan Murray - CBJ
10. Mikhail Grigorenko - BUF
11. Ryan Strome - NYI
12. Brandon Gormley - PHX
13. Mark Schiefele - WPG
14. Sven Baertschi - CGY
15. Jonas Brodin - MIN

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12-28-2012, 12:36 PM
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I've seen plenty of Kessel and I guess we'll have to disagree. If his vision and sense are at least average he would be a top 10 player in the NHL and an Alex Mogilny type player. He just isn't that good and is closer to Sergei Berezin.
No offence but if you think Kessel is closer to Sergei Berezin than Alex Mogilny, then you are on some pretty potent stuff.

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12-28-2012, 02:43 PM
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I've seen plenty of Kessel and I guess we'll have to disagree. If his vision and sense are at least average he would be a top 10 player in the NHL and an Alex Mogilny type player. He just isn't that good and is closer to Sergei Berezin.
What? Clearly you haven't watched him play. If you did you'd realize how outlandish this statement is. Kessel has very highend sense. Anyone who watches him play would know that his hockey sense is one of the strong points of his game and that he isn't anything like Sergei Berezin. What an odd, ridiculous comparison. I don't remember Berezin ever putting up 45 assists in a season or 82 points.

And btw, he did finish top 10 in scoring this year. I believe he was 5th or 6th. Almost Sergei Berezin-like.

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12-28-2012, 02:52 PM
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1. Tarasenko
2. Yakupov
3. Granlund
4. Kuznetsov
5. Hamilton
6. Huberdeau
7. Zibanejad
8. Galchenyuk
9. Murray
10. Schultz
11. Grigorenko
12. Strome
13. Markstrom
14. Baertschi
15. Schwartz

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12-28-2012, 02:54 PM
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^absolutely laughable! no Yakupov despite scoring well in a pro league like the KHL and Schultz at 15? despite leading a pro league like the AHL in scoring and getting 16 goals in 28 games as a rookie? i sure get the feeling that some underestimate Schultz. hoping this was a joke?
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The op asked for my top 15 these are it. These lists are OPINION based in case you didn't understand from the op. I explained why I didn't have Yakupov, and I think Schultz is scoring a lot because its tough to cover edmontons big 4, and since he's the least established he's not focused on as much.
^huh?....well, i guess you know something then that the professional scouts didn't, hey?

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12-28-2012, 03:04 PM
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^huh?....well, i guess you know something then that the professional scouts didn't, hey?
Schultz himself said he thinks that might be partially why he's doing so well.

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12-28-2012, 03:07 PM
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Schultz is obviously benefiting from his environment, but that doesn't mean he hasn't been impressive.

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12-28-2012, 03:12 PM
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^couldn't you say that about a lot of players though? if Malkin or Howard played with less gifted players, wouldn't their stats go down?

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12-28-2012, 03:13 PM
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Schultz himself said he thinks that might be partially why he's doing so well.
He's just being humble. If you've watched him you'd know what a great talent he is.

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12-28-2012, 03:15 PM
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^couldn't you say that about a lot of players though? if Malkin or Howard played with less gifted players, wouldn't their stats go down?
Absolutely. I think Malkin is an exception and can play with anyone in the NHL and still produce big numbers, but in general, yeah.

But I highly doubt Schultz comes into the NHL and puts up >1.00 ppg as a rookie, if ever.

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12-28-2012, 03:18 PM
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^couldn't you say that about a lot of players though? if Malkin or Howard played with less gifted players, wouldn't their stats go down?
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He's just being humble. If you've watched him you'd know what a great talent he is.
Ok i'd probably put him above Ouellet since i was really high on him after watching Canada vs. Germany, The rest of the defensemen i'd keep over him, they've just impressed me much more when i've seen them play.

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Absolutely. I think Malkin is an exception and can play with anyone in the NHL and still produce big numbers, but in general, yeah.

But I highly doubt Schultz comes into the NHL and puts up >1.00 ppg as a rookie, if ever.
probably true also has nothing to do with it been the nhl and him having those stats in the ahl???

shultz benefits from playing with nhlers but hes still leading those guys in points and making the ahl look easy offensively right now

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12-28-2012, 03:27 PM
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Brodin does not belong anywhere near the top 15

1.Yevgeni Kuznetsov
2.Justin Schultz
3.Dougie Hamilton
4.Mikael Granlund
5.Nail Yakupov
6.Vladimir Tarasenko
7.Jonathan Huberdeau
8.Sven Baerschi
9.Ryan Murray
10.Alex Galchenyuk
11.Mika Zibanejad
12.Mark Scheifele
13.Morgan Reilly
14.Ryan Strome
15.Boone Jenner

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12-28-2012, 03:29 PM
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Am I the only person who hasn't been all that impressed about Hamilton? The guy had a crazy stat-line last year, but I've probably seen him play a couple games this year and he has always been so....'meh'. Don't really understand all the hype around him.

I'd still have him in my top 10, but not top 5.
I've seen him 5 or 6 times and I'm still waiting to see something that wows me, or even just solid steady unheralded play.

Nothing I've seen tells me he's great in his own end, either physically, positionally or hockey sense wise, and offensively, while he skates well, I haven't seen him rush the puck much or make great passes from his own end.

What I see is a big guy, who skates well, has a big shot, and can be the shot guy on a pp (but not the qb).

I'm probably missing things, but I've been underwhelmed ever time I've seen him.

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Brodin does not belong anywhere near the top 15
Why is that, if I may ask?

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12-28-2012, 03:57 PM
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Brodin does not belong anywhere near the top 15
why? also IMO Jenner should not be near the top 15

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12-28-2012, 04:07 PM
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Brodin does not belong anywhere near the top 15

1.Yevgeni Kuznetsov
2.Justin Schultz
3.Dougie Hamilton
4.Mikael Granlund
5.Nail Yakupov
6.Vladimir Tarasenko
7.Jonathan Huberdeau
8.Sven Baerschi
9.Ryan Murray
10.Alex Galchenyuk
11.Mika Zibanejad
12.Mark Scheifele
13.Morgan Reilly
14.Ryan Strome
15.Boone Jenner
Good list but after watching the world juniors I'd replace Rielly with Wikstrand.

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12-28-2012, 04:12 PM
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I've seen plenty of Kessel and I guess we'll have to disagree. If his vision and sense are at least average he would be a top 10 player in the NHL and an Alex Mogilny type player. He just isn't that good and is closer to Sergei Berezin.
Kessel finished 6th in league scoring last year.

Mogilny's best finish in his career was 7th.


Berezin cracked the NHL top-50 scoring once in his career. Finished 39th.

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12-28-2012, 05:07 PM
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why? also IMO Jenner should not be near the top 15
Why he's arguably he most well rounded player on any of these lists. Top 10 in pts in the O, tied for first in goals. Faceoff extraordinaire, gritty pk. You can throw him in any situation and he will excel. His skating has improved tremendously. This kid is the real deal. I'm not just saying that because I'm a CBJ Homer, you can just watch that kid and see his heart and soul in everything he does. One hit has made him a villain.

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