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12-25-2012, 11:01 AM
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12-25-2012, 12:03 PM
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12-25-2012, 02:16 PM
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12-26-2012, 03:07 AM
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12-28-2012, 06:40 AM
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Sochi. Bolshoi Ice palace (12000) - completed.






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12-28-2012, 08:30 AM
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i don't get the space between the fans and the rink, unless they will add seats tere it's plain stupid.

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12-29-2012, 02:34 AM
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i don't get the space between the fans and the rink, unless they will add seats tere it's plain stupid.
Maybe they want to be able to use it for other events. Its removable right? In that case, who said it would be used for KHL purposes?

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12-29-2012, 04:32 AM
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Removable what?

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12-29-2012, 11:29 AM
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Removable what?
That platform next to the seats just doesn't make any sense at all. If this is a permanent solution it's really stupid...

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12-29-2012, 11:46 AM
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You mean the stage? Of course it isn't. He was saying something about KHL, and I though may be he was talking about the arena. Sometimes I just don't get people and their understanding of modern indoor sport arenas. It is one big lego constructor. First 10 rows are bleachers, they can change the slope, number of rows and pretty much do whatever they want with them. Permanent platform, cmon, really?

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12-29-2012, 03:04 PM
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By 'removable' I meant that the location of the arena will not remain Sochi after the Olympics since it will be moved to another city. I thought I heard that before. if that was true, who said it would be used for hockey?

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12-29-2012, 07:34 PM
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By 'removable' I meant that the location of the arena will not remain Sochi after the Olympics since it will be moved to another city. I thought I heard that before. if that was true, who said it would be used for hockey?
No way BLA can be moved. The whole arena is made of cast reinforced concrete. You've mistaken it for Small Ice Palace. BLA on the other hand will stay in Sochi for ages.

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12-29-2012, 09:23 PM
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You mean the stage? Of course it isn't. He was saying something about KHL, and I though may be he was talking about the arena. Sometimes I just don't get people and their understanding of modern indoor sport arenas. It is one big lego constructor. First 10 rows are bleachers, they can change the slope, number of rows and pretty much do whatever they want with them. Permanent platform, cmon, really?
Beat me to it.

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12-30-2012, 12:56 AM
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i don't get the space between the fans and the rink, unless they will add seats tere it's plain stupid.
I agree, I hope they add seats, removable or not it really doesnt matter. You'll notice some arenas in the KHL leave this space empty ie. Ice Palace in St. Petersburg. It makes it feel like the fans are not close to the action, its weird even on TV.

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12-30-2012, 09:42 AM
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Nah, the arena looks great, it's just you have a bad taste.

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12-30-2012, 11:58 AM
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It looks realy bad when there are no fans sitting right behind the glass, so I hope they will change that. At the same time, I've sat behind the glass at a number of hockey games, but I see it more as a punishment than privilege. You may get to see the pimples on the hockey players' faces clearly, but the sense of watching the game develop is gone. Whenever I sat behind the glass, I had to re-watch the goal situations later on TV when I got back home, because sitting behind the glass, everything seems to happen so fast you barely have time to register what's going on in the big picture.

I just hate both of those extremes, "behind the glass" and "VIP lounge". They are both supposed to be privileges, but in fact they're not. Sitting under the roof so that players look like ants is supposed to be "VIP treatment"? No way. Give me 8th row on the red line over the VIP lounge anytime -- that's the true VIP location for a hockey fan.

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01-13-2013, 08:41 PM
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With new arenas being built, I was just wondering which of the current KHL teams are selling out their home games or are close to doing so on a regular basis. Whenever I namely look at attendance figures, they're not really that large, with only some teams having respectable numbers game in game out. But some teams post figures that are quite bad for this level of play, Vityaz, for example. I think a lot of the arenas look nice, but why do people think they won't be half-empty?

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I was just wondering which of the current KHL teams are selling out their home games or are close to doing so on a regular basis.
Amur, Slovan, Torpedo, SKA, Lokomotiv, Traktor, Minsk, Atlant, Neftekhimik, Donbass and Salavat Yulayev (in that order) are all at or above 90%. That's 11 out of 26 KHL teams. As to "half empty", Ak Bars is worst at 53%, which is a shame for an elite KHL club.

Amur is the only club to have sold out all games (Slovan all games except the second September game). Vityaz Chekhov is at a very respectable 87%, too. It's just that their arena is tiny. The avarage KHL attendance is 80% of capacity crowd, which is quite good, far above "half-empty".

For all details, see the table below. It's from this December 17, 2012 article (and great Russian blog regularly tracking hockey attendance around the world): http://www.sports.ru/tribuna/blogs/t...me/400599.html



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Thanks, Faterson! I guess, except for a few teams, such as Ak Bars, you already mentioned, it doesn't even look that bad when you look at this table.

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01-13-2013, 09:35 PM
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Yes... the main problem are small arenas. Those with a higher than 10,000 capacity are still more an exception than the rule nowadays. And only the Dinamo Minsk arena somewhat approaches the standard of NHL arenas in terms of capacity.

The O2 arena in Prague only hosts selected KHL games, such as Lev vs. Slovan tomorrow. It's possible it will sell out for the first time for a KHL game, setting a new KHL single-game attendance record.

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01-26-2013, 09:36 PM
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Does anyone have any info on the status of the new Rosneft arena for CSKA? Have they started construction and will it really seat 20,000?

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01-29-2013, 03:09 PM
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Does anyone have any info on the status of the new Rosneft arena for CSKA? Have they started construction and will it really seat 20,000?
Yes, Ult can you please give us an update please.. On this and the situations in Vladivostok (Fetisov Hall), St. Petersburg, Novokuznetsk, VTB arena project in Moscow, Donetsk, Saransk, Togliatti, Yekaterinburg, Tyumen, Kiev, Nizhny Novgorod, any I missed?

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01-30-2013, 05:24 AM
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CSKA arena is still under project, usually it takes up to one year, and looks like they decided on the final location - Pavshinskaya poyma in Krasnogorsk.

Arenas in Vladivostok, Tolyatti and Saransk are U/C on schedule and should be opened sometime in 2013. I'll post good photo updates if/when they come around.

Now there is a really interesting story about Donetsk. As you probably know Donetsk got the right to host FIBA Eurobasket 2015 games. And at the same time the owner of Donbass wanted to build huge 20k seat arena for his club and kill two birds with one stone. So mid 2012 they chose AECOM to make a project. AECOM made some concepts but told them that throughout designing of such big arena will take at least a year, and construction will take another 3.
So as you can see there was no way they'd make it in time for Eurobasket, so they decided to build 2 arenas, one for 6k for Basketball team and Eurobasket and 20k for Donbass, with the last one being completed much later on - in 2018. But as you know Donbass made promises to KHL about their arena, so that's when KHL regulations came into play. If Donbass wants to play in KHL in the new arena, it has to be at least 12000 seater...
So the latest development is they'll build two arenas - Arena Kalmius for 12000 seats with opening in 2015, and Donbass Forum for 20000-22000 is projected for 2018-2019.

Preliminary design of Arena Kalmius


And Donbass Forum.


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Now about the rest.

Tyumen has made some changes to SAP arena design to accommodate it to the Russian "realias". Construction should start in 2013. Yes I know they told it a hundred times before, I can't wait for it myself.

VTB Arena is on track. They're doing some ground preparation works, laying down communications, finalizing the project and its cost, preserving the facade and stuff like that.

The project of 15000 seater in Nizhniy Novgorod will be shown on MIPIM 2013 in Cannes (12 – 15 March 2013).

The fate of Yekaterinburg and Novokuznetsk in KHL is uncertain, so I wouldn't get my hopes up unfortunately.

As for Kiev, what about it? it's not in KHL.

Oh, almost forgot, they plan to modernize Megasport in time for WC 2016. Rumors say it's because of some structural defects in roof. Officials deny it. Anyway hopefully they'll get rid of those horrible plastic seats and facelift the rest of the arena. It could end up looking more like Minsk-Arena.


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01-30-2013, 05:44 AM
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Tyumen has made some changes to SAP arena design to accommodate it to the Russian "realias". Construction should start in 2013. Yes I know they told it a hundred times before, I can't wait for it myself.
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